Around the NBA: Hezi vs Melo

Post #1241 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:55 pm

robillionaire wrote:
Newyorknick94 wrote:All star voting opened Randle might have a chance to make it

we have to flood the vote i'll vote for him daily

melo and his 25 different accounts will be all over that one

Post #1242 » by **K_ick_God** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:00 pm

An underrated thing besides his injuries and my own concern (disclaimer: eye test only) about his D: he’s playing with the premier young player in the game.

I think that both boosts his numbers/floor some but also shows he’s not an elite player. He doesn’t seem to mix that well with Luka and is not necessarily even helping Luka much at all.

A truly good 2nd scorer type would probably already be thriving in an undeniable way next to Luka. We don’t see that if we’re being honest, and he’s not a spring chicken in age and growth.

At best KP is just maybe one of the better but much less impactful supporting guys next to Luka, and maybe you can safely say he’s second best. But it’s not by some big margin.

He should’ve been a defensive beast who can score but who dominates on D and inside. A Gobert with a 3 ball but he’s not strong enough for that.

Post #1243 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:01 pm

The KP trade may end up looking good. Even the Randle signing is looking good.

Mills was still terrible and glad he is gone. Too much damage done for way too long.

robillionaire · Post #1244 » by **robillionaire** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:05 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
Newyorknick94 wrote:All star voting opened Randle might have a chance to make it

we have to flood the vote i'll vote for him daily

melo and his 25 different accounts will be all over that one

if this city can't get randle in the all-star game what are we good for

god shammgod · Post #1245 » by **god shammgod** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:08 pm

bol lol

robillionaire · Post #1246 » by **robillionaire** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:09 pm

also if the suns don't get their act together soon we need to try to pry booker to the knicks hopefully he demands a trade soon to get away from cp3

Post #1247 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:15 pm

robillionaire wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
we have to flood the vote i'll vote for him daily

melo and his 25 different accounts will be all over that one

if this city can't get randle in the all-star game what are we good for

We should try to get Payton in there just ruin the game for everyone

robillionaire · Post #1248 » by **robillionaire** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:18 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
melo and his 25 different accounts will be all over that one

if this city can't get randle in the all-star game what are we good for

We should try to get Payton in there just ruin the game for everyone

thebuzzardman · Post #1249 » by **thebuzzardman** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:48 pm

god shammgod wrote:could you get 2 firsts and dump a bad contract for an expiring in a kp trade right now ? i wouldn't think so. while we might have gotten more, not really sure about that with his injury at the time, i think his value is lower now.

Knicks can take KP back for moar Mavs #1 picks. Like in 2025 + 2027

RHODEY · Post #1250 » by **RHODEY** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:59 pm

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2046126
:lol:

YouthMovement · Post #1251 » by **YouthMovement** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:07 pm

this deshaun watson situation reminds me of the KP saga

Oscirus · Post #1252 » by **Oscirus** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:10 pm

meh press and player involvement ruins the voting experience for me

Oscirus · Post #1253 » by **Oscirus** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:11 pm

YouthMovement wrote:this deshaun watson situation reminds me of the KP saga

Not really, not even the knicks were absurd enough to hire a mediocre coach to keep their star player happy

Oscirus · Post #1254 » by **Oscirus** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:12 pm

god shammgod wrote:pelicans basically tanking again by putting everyone on the market. you'd think with the young talent they have they wouldn't have to. it is a horribly constructed roster but still.

Pelicans putting their **** players on the market, they're not trading anybody of importance

god shammgod · Post #1255 » by **god shammgod** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:17 pm

Oscirus wrote:
god shammgod wrote:pelicans basically tanking again by putting everyone on the market. you'd think with the young talent they have they wouldn't have to. it is a horribly constructed roster but still.

Pelicans putting their **** players on the market, they're not trading anybody of importance

not that they're not bad players but it's still a admittance of "we're not making the playoffs so keep bi & zion and sell whatever else we can". i'm sure steven adams is for sale too if someone wants him.

G_K_F · Post #1256 » by **G_K_F** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:24 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:The KP trade may end up looking good. Even the Randle signing is looking good.

Mills was still terrible and glad he is gone. Too much damage done for way too long.

KP could retire tomorrow and that trade is still awful on every level.

Post #1257 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:27 pm

Hes_On_Fire wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:The KP trade may end up looking good. Even the Randle signing is looking good.

Mills was still terrible and glad he is gone. Too much damage done for way too long.

KP could retire tomorrow and that trade is still awful on every level.

yea, i cant really argue that one....just hope the picks work out at this point.

spree2kawhi · Post #1258 » by **spree2kawhi** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:53 pm

WargamesX wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
Funny enough his value was highest when Phil wanted to trade him pre-ACL

If only we had done that. I was on board

Would you be down to trade Randle?

Wasn't I loud enough yet? I'd ship him out quicker than Kobe would've shipped out Bynum.

Last year I'd have paid to get rid of him and this year I still see merely an overused finisher that doesn't block shots, has a guard's FG% at best and turns the ball over more than bad PGs. The numbers are inflated, let's be real: inflated numbers.

I badly wanted Jerami Grant last year instead. He can shoot and block shots. He'd have been great next to RJ and Mitch, while Randle highlights their deficiencies instead of masking them. I'd still take many alternatives to Randle today. I said it in another post, I'd take most of what Sacramento could offer as small or big packages. Denver should still want him, maybe in a three team deal. NOP lol, Houston, Boston, Charlotte, Toronto, Cleveland, Orlando and so many more could make decent offers.

Short answer: definitely. What about you?

robillionaire · Post #1259 » by **robillionaire** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:49 pm

Hes_On_Fire wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:The KP trade may end up looking good. Even the Randle signing is looking good.

Mills was still terrible and glad he is gone. Too much damage done for way too long.

KP could retire tomorrow and that trade is still awful on every level.

How? We would have traded away a broken retired player for 2 first round picks, it would have been a great trade if he retires tomorrow

Actually it would be a worse trade for us if he retires tomorrow because the Mavs are better without him and they might be able to get out of his contract with some kind of disabled player exception instead of having to eat the max contract

Post #1260 » by **K_ick_God** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:07 pm

Smith hasn’t worked out, obv, we don’t know the picks but with Luka those picks are risky, and I’m still skeptical on Randle being a keeper.

But you still have to measure the trade against giving KP a Max or letting him walk for nada. Neither of those two were good options, then or in hindsight, so then the trade becomes a salvaging of some value, and in that way it’s not bad. With the jury still out.