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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1261 » by DeenNY31 » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:44 pm

Gallo doesn't get enough love as he should because he's above average to pretty good in nearly every aspect of the game but not great
Also his defense is criminally underrrated. According to all the defensive metrics he is a very good defender
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1262 » by ORANGEandBLUE » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:46 pm

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Rasho Brezec wrote:Let's just ignore that one of them plays on a playoff team in a stacked Western Conference and the other one is on a lotto team with no other offensive threats.

and that one plays good defense and the other one doesn't

and that one also attacks the rim and the other one doesn't

there's one thing though that gallinari and anderson have in common though :roll: they're both 6'10" ;)

Well Anderson has a much longer track record of shooting lights out from 3. Gallo might just be on a hot streak.
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1263 » by Capn'O » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:46 pm

blueNorange wrote:if the nuggets aren't contenders, then so aren't the knicks


Nah. Knicks with Stat are a much better team. Come around. Join the Statwagon before it's too late :o :o :o
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1264 » by Rasho Brezec » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:48 pm

The only time Gallo wasn't a good defender was when he returned from the back injury. He was back to being great the next season.
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1265 » by AllanHoustonFan » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:50 pm

Capn'O wrote:And if they had gotten Harden instead of Iguanadon this summer?

What if they had Lebron? I still wouldn't want Gallo as my number 2 option. I'm basing this over his overall body of work. He is having a good month, but he needs to do this long term for me to be a believer. I wouldn't mind him as a number 3 as I said though.
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Post#1266 » by Falstaffxx » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:58 pm

Wtf are people even talking about? Who said Gallinari is "carrying a team?" I said he's having a good year.
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Post#1267 » by Capn'O » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:59 pm

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Capn'O wrote:And if they had gotten Harden instead of Iguanadon this summer?

What if they had Lebron? I still wouldn't want Gallo as my number 2 option. I'm basing this over his overall body of work. He is having a good month, but he needs to do this long term for me to be a believer. I wouldn't mind him as a number 3 as I said though.


He's had two good months really. And he was doing the same thing pre-injury last season. Slow start followed by a hyper-efficient stretch.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4468/splits?year=2011&type=Fielding

The injuries (which ARE a legit concern) derailed him.


You add LeBron (instead of Iguanadon) to a team that's already over .600 and featuring Gallo? You gotta be kidding me. That team would be scary.
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1268 » by Galloisdaman » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:03 pm

Gallo started the season injured and it showed in his first month numbers. Since then he has averaged around 18-19 ppg. He is 24. Give the kid a break. Your hatred is not logical. This is a team game. Guys shouldn't be carrying teams. Teams win not individuals. If you watched last nights game Gallo was interviewed as the star of the game. Every time the interviewer made a big deal about Gallo as a individual all Gallo did was talk about the team not himself. As far as this nonsense goes that he is only a role player because he is at 17ppg how many hall of famers averaged 18ppg or less for their careers??? I can think of several off the top of my head starting with Clyde, James Worthy and Reggie Miller. Then there is Kevin Mchale and Chris Mullin. Gallo is the leading scorer on a team that has almost the same record as the Knicks despite having a horrible road schedule to start the season and playing in a much tougher conference.
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1269 » by Pharmcat » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:07 pm

kakaman wrote:@SI_ChrisBallard

Heard from one source that last season D'Antoni would call a play for Melo and then Lin wouldn't run it. I asked Melo about this...

Intredasting...


has this been confirmed by any1 else?
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1270 » by Pharmcat » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:09 pm

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Falstaffxx wrote:Gallinari's having a nice year.

Nate Robinson really seems to have found a role. I thought he'd be out of the league by now, but it seems as if he's going to stick.


gallo is putting up nice glorified role player #s
but thats all he is

he cant carry a team or anything

a role player doesn't average 17 ppg, those are numbers of a robin

why are people still refusing to acknowledge that gallinari is a very good player that's only going to get better. he can get to the line, he can shoot the three, and more importantly he's a VERY GOOD defensive player.

i'm happy he's finding his groove, he got a lot of crap for no reason other than being from europe.

he's going to have a few 20 ppg seasons and a very, very long nba career


he is not a robin...but can he be a #3 option? oh yea no doubt
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1271 » by Pharmcat » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:10 pm

ORANGEandBLUE wrote:Problem is there are very few batmans in the league, so most teams need 2-3 guys that are somewhere between batman and robin.


more like somewhere between robin and alfred, thats where gallo is

hes a 3, just lacks consistency
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1272 » by AllanHoustonFan » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:16 pm

Galloisdaman wrote:Gallo started the season injured and it showed in his first month numbers. Since then he has averaged around 18-19 ppg. He is 24. Give the kid a break. Your hatred is not logical. This is a team game. Guys shouldn't be carrying teams. Teams win not individuals. If you watched last nights game Gallo was interviewed as the star of the game. Every time the interviewer made a big deal about Gallo as a individual all Gallo did was talk about the team not himself. As far as this nonsense goes that he is only a role player because he is at 17ppg how many hall of famers averaged 18ppg or less for their careers??? I can think of several off the top of my head starting with Clyde, James Worthy and Reggie Miller. Then there is Kevin Mchale and Chris Mullin. Gallo is the leading scorer on a team that has almost the same record as the Knicks despite having a horrible road schedule to start the season and playing in a much tougher conference.

Who is "hating" on Gallo? I see people giving their opinions.

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Capn'O wrote:And if they had gotten Harden instead of Iguanadon this summer?

What if they had Lebron? I still wouldn't want Gallo as my number 2 option. I'm basing this over his overall body of work. He is having a good month, but he needs to do this long term for me to be a believer. I wouldn't mind him as a number 3 as I said though.


He's had two good months really. And he was doing the same thing pre-injury last season. Slow start followed by a hyper-efficient stretch.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4468/splits?year=2011&type=Fielding

The injuries (which ARE a legit concern) derailed him.


You add LeBron (instead of Iguanadon) to a team that's already over .600 and featuring Gallo? You gotta be kidding me. That team would be scary.

See to me a #2 would be the Chris Bosh's or Blake Griffin's of the world for example. I don't think Gallo would have the impact those guys have or can sustain his level of play into the playoffs. If he proves me wrong then I will gladly eat crow.

His injury history, as you pointed out as a major concern, is another reason why he isn't reliable to me.
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1273 » by Pharmcat » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:19 pm

Galloisdaman wrote:Gallo started the season injured and it showed in his first month numbers. Since then he has averaged around 18-19 ppg. He is 24. Give the kid a break. Your hatred is not logical. This is a team game. Guys shouldn't be carrying teams. Teams win not individuals. If you watched last nights game Gallo was interviewed as the star of the game. Every time the interviewer made a big deal about Gallo as a individual all Gallo did was talk about the team not himself. As far as this nonsense goes that he is only a role player because he is at 17ppg how many hall of famers averaged 18ppg or less for their careers??? I can think of several off the top of my head starting with Clyde, James Worthy and Reggie Miller. Then there is Kevin Mchale and Chris Mullin. Gallo is the leading scorer on a team that has almost the same record as the Knicks despite having a horrible road schedule to start the season and playing in a much tougher conference.


no 1 hating, just stating opinions

btw, his flopping cost his team a PO game last year against the lakers, when his team was forced to play 4 on 5 in two critical situations
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1274 » by blueNorange » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:23 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:The only time Gallo wasn't a good defender was when he returned from the back injury. He was back to being great the next season.

he's more athletic now than his time with the knicks
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1275 » by Galloisdaman » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:25 pm

Pharmcat wrote:
he is not a robin...but can he be a #3 option? oh yea no doubt


Yet he is the best player on a team that has similar record as the Knicks in a much tougher conference.

How many teams have a #3 player that averages 17ppg and is 10th in the league in made free throws?

Your bashing of Gallo doesn't help Melo or the Knicks in anyway.
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Post#1276 » by Galloisdaman » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:29 pm

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Galloisdaman wrote:Gallo started the season injured and it showed in his first month numbers. Since then he has averaged around 18-19 ppg. He is 24. Give the kid a break. Your hatred is not logical. This is a team game. Guys shouldn't be carrying teams. Teams win not individuals. If you watched last nights game Gallo was interviewed as the star of the game. Every time the interviewer made a big deal about Gallo as a individual all Gallo did was talk about the team not himself. As far as this nonsense goes that he is only a role player because he is at 17ppg how many hall of famers averaged 18ppg or less for their careers??? I can think of several off the top of my head starting with Clyde, James Worthy and Reggie Miller. Then there is Kevin Mchale and Chris Mullin. Gallo is the leading scorer on a team that has almost the same record as the Knicks despite having a horrible road schedule to start the season and playing in a much tougher conference.


no 1 hating, just stating opinions

btw, his flopping cost his team a PO game last year against the lakers, when his team was forced to play 4 on 5 in two critical situations


Do you only remember plays that do not go his way? I see you did not mention his 4 blocks last night. If you like I can make a list of many more plays that won games for the Nuggets. He has had several game winners this season alone. Maybe you feel as long as you are bashing Gallo for last years playoffs you can take your mind off the 1-8 playoff record Melo has had as a Knick.
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1277 » by j4remi » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:30 pm

Galloisdaman wrote:
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he is not a robin...but can he be a #3 option? oh yea no doubt


Yet he is the best player on a team that has similar record as the Knicks in a much tougher conference.

How many teams have a #3 player that averages 17ppg and is 10th in the league in made free throws?

Your bashing of Gallo doesn't help Melo or the Knicks in anyway.


That's nice if you conveniently ignore the injuries the Knicks have dealt with. He's good, not great and I feel like Faried/Lawson are as important as Gallo if not more.
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Post#1278 » by 21shumpshumpst » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:31 pm

Galloisdaman wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:
he is not a robin...but can he be a #3 option? oh yea no doubt


Yet he is the best player on a team that has similar record as the Knicks in a much tougher conference.

How many teams have a #3 player that averages 17ppg and is 10th in the league in made free throws?

Your bashing of Gallo doesn't help Melo or the Knicks in anyway.

Best player? These guys (Denver fans think otherwise).
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But I am sure they are bias and you are not at all with a username of Galloisdaman. :lol:
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Post#1279 » by 21shumpshumpst » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:32 pm

Galloisdaman wrote:
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Galloisdaman wrote:Gallo started the season injured and it showed in his first month numbers. Since then he has averaged around 18-19 ppg. He is 24. Give the kid a break. Your hatred is not logical. This is a team game. Guys shouldn't be carrying teams. Teams win not individuals. If you watched last nights game Gallo was interviewed as the star of the game. Every time the interviewer made a big deal about Gallo as a individual all Gallo did was talk about the team not himself. As far as this nonsense goes that he is only a role player because he is at 17ppg how many hall of famers averaged 18ppg or less for their careers??? I can think of several off the top of my head starting with Clyde, James Worthy and Reggie Miller. Then there is Kevin Mchale and Chris Mullin. Gallo is the leading scorer on a team that has almost the same record as the Knicks despite having a horrible road schedule to start the season and playing in a much tougher conference.


no 1 hating, just stating opinions

btw, his flopping cost his team a PO game last year against the lakers, when his team was forced to play 4 on 5 in two critical situations


Do you only remember plays that do not go his way? I see you did not mention his 4 blocks last night. If you like I can make a list of many more plays that won games for the Nuggets. He has had several game winners this season alone. Maybe you feel as long as you are bashing Gallo for last years playoffs you can take your mind off the 1-8 playoff record Melo has had as a Knick.


So regular season games > than playoff performances? Ok duly noted. :lol:
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1280 » by Pharmcat » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:33 pm

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Pharmcat wrote:
he is not a robin...but can he be a #3 option? oh yea no doubt


Yet he is the best player on a team that has similar record as the Knicks in a much tougher conference.

How many teams have a #3 player that averages 17ppg and is 10th in the league in made free throws?

Your bashing of Gallo doesn't help Melo or the Knicks in anyway.


That's nice if you conveniently ignore the injuries the Knicks have dealt with. He's good, not great and I feel like Faried/Lawson are as important as Gallo if not more.


yep ive always maintained lawson has been their engine
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