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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#1261 » by CJackson » Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:50 pm

AmazingJason wrote:If Trump successfully launches a TV network, then I guess he hoodwinked the entire country. It would end up being one of greatest business ploys in the history of the world. Run for President, get 40% of the populace on his side (the deplorables :D ), tank the election, then launch the network. Could even partner up with Roger Ailes.


That is what he is doing

He only wants to win on the days where he is in the cocoon of his rallies or when Putin compliments him. When he has to deal with the reality of the justifiable backlash to being a complete ass hole then he doesn't like politics.

The rest of the time he is planning to continue his TV career. He has been looking for publicity from Day 1, but not to further a political vision by which to govern, but by which to monetize eyeballs.

Most cynical campaign in history, yet his faithful are too gullible not to understand the con.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#1262 » by BKlutch » Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:37 pm

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uncomfortably weird and psychotic social misfit . The keyboard can be a dangerous thing for these kind of people. 7000 post in 7 months. Kind of feel sorry but everything that is wrong with people in this country re politics and dialogue is wrapped up with nasty arrogant condescending fools like this. The ignore is the way to go...until he gets another topic shut down. Probably 5'3' with thick glasses.


I have him on ignore, just use that function is my recommendation. I think something is very off with the guy but that is not a crime. I think it is an ex-mod who had a mental breakdown and changed their username? clydestyle?

He is not all bad and I share his disdain for dumb-ass Trump. Just ignore and do not engage, I am happier since ignoring as the amount of nonsense posted was ruining this forum for me.


Excuse me, but will you please refrain in the future from any more comments like this?

Mental breakdowns? Do you believe this is appropriate?

Answer me this. While you have disparaged me repeatedly, have I lashed out back at you? I've merely addressed your continual need for expressing some really petty and grudgeful attitude you seem to possess and asked you to just let it go. A mentally ill person would take your grudgeful behavior and multipy by 10. Like Dean does.

So, yes, I'm not all bad and I'm sure you are not either. So you can drop this and move on. I don't have any reason to wage a vendetta against you, so I would appreciate the same from you.

Thank you

I never knew you were clydestyle. Is this rumor going to become a thing? Are they accusing you or Clydestyle of a mental breakdown? OMG what immaturity. I haven't seen this kind of behavior since.... the last Presidential Debate.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#1263 » by CJackson » Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:45 pm

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I have him on ignore, just use that function is my recommendation. I think something is very off with the guy but that is not a crime. I think it is an ex-mod who had a mental breakdown and changed their username? clydestyle?

He is not all bad and I share his disdain for dumb-ass Trump. Just ignore and do not engage, I am happier since ignoring as the amount of nonsense posted was ruining this forum for me.


Excuse me, but will you please refrain in the future from any more comments like this?

Mental breakdowns? Do you believe this is appropriate?

Answer me this. While you have disparaged me repeatedly, have I lashed out back at you? I've merely addressed your continual need for expressing some really petty and grudgeful attitude you seem to possess and asked you to just let it go. A mentally ill person would take your grudgeful behavior and multipy by 10. Like Dean does.

So, yes, I'm not all bad and I'm sure you are not either. So you can drop this and move on. I don't have any reason to wage a vendetta against you, so I would appreciate the same from you.

Thank you

I never knew you were clydestyle. Is this rumor going to become a thing? Are they accusing you or Clydestyle of a mental breakdown? OMG what immaturity. I haven't seen this kind of behavior since.... the last Presidential Debate.


Kampuchea posts on average about once a month this past half year that I had a mental breakdown.

This polite request that he stops such pettiness is the third time. They don't respond and then they go back to doing it again.

They piggyback on the insults of others like Dean and repeatedly say "he had a mental breakdown" and somehow it never occurs to them they are the one acting in bad faith, showing lack of character and being a jerk.

I had yet to lash out at them for this, but I'm fed up at this point. How many times does a person do that, get a measured request to cease and desist and not get a clue?

It seems to me we are only dealing with people incapable of defending their own ideas who build up massive resentments they hold on to forever and then bully you while calling you the bully. If you can't handle debate, then stay the hell out of it, but don't claim you are being bullied if you don't have what it takes to defend your ideas. Attacking the person is all they do.

Debate is attacking ideas. It seems some Trump supporters are too weak in the head to realize this. They feel personally attacked because they are voting for an ass hole.

IT IS NOT OUR FAULT IF YOU ARE SUPPORTING THE BIGGEST DICK TO EVER RUN FOR POLITICAL OFFICE.

Get over it! Defend your ideas or STFU.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#1264 » by seren » Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:12 pm

Reading the wikileaks, I am pretty much convinced the election is rigged. Hillary aides wanted Trump knowing that she had no chance against a typical Republican candidate. A guy like Kasich or Bush, your typical vanilla Republican would win the election easily. That is why the mainstream media gave all the free coverage to Trump during primaries. Fact is Trump is a friend of Clintons. He could care less about politics or being the president. He doesn't believe in what he says. His immigration stance is straight out of Ann Coulter's book. He showed he knows nothing about abortion (late term abortion a week before birth? That is called c-section you dummy). Hillary will win easily. Trump will get his TV channel. Bill and Donald will laugh to the bank. Republican base is bunch of idiots who can all easily be fooled.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#1265 » by CJackson » Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:28 pm

seren wrote:Reading the wikileaks, I am pretty much convinced the election is rigged. Hillary aides wanted Trump knowing that she had no chance against a typical Republican candidate. A guy like Kasich or Bush, your typical vanilla Republican would win the election easily. That is why the mainstream media gave all the free coverage to Trump during primaries. Fact is Trump is a friend of Clintons. He could care less about politics or being the president. He doesn't believe in what he says. His immigration stance is straight out of Ann Coulter's book. He showed he knows nothing about abortion (late term abortion a week before birth? That is called c-section you dummy). Hillary will win easily. Trump will get his TV channel. Bill and Donald will laugh to the bank. Republican base is bunch of idiots who can all easily be fooled.


Much of what you say is spot on except Trump's collusion or intentions.

Trump ran for two reasons:

as a middle finger to Obama whom he hates with a passion (the video Obama roasting Trump at the press dinner is on youtube if you haven't seen it)

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as a way to stoke his public profile and cash in on that

Trump is all about the following things:

Benjamins
Young Pussy
Revenge
Fame

That's it. He has nothing else wired into his motherboard. His only interest in politics is in how it affects his personal bottom line.

So, yes, he suckered tens of millions of gullible dupes. He is their P.T. Barnum and they got what they deserved.

His base projected their dreams upon him and he farted back loudly and they approved.

But he hates the Obamas and just because he joined Bill for the teen slumber parties at Lolita Island doesn't mean Trump has been a friend of the Clintons for a long time.

The reality of it is Trump himself thought he'd catch some buzz, but not capture the nomination. When he did his feverish little twitter brain started to think he could be actually do this.

Let's not forget this is a guy whom supposedly kept a copy of Mein Kampf on his night table. He has said admiring things about the strength of Putin and Mussolini.

What the Trump faithful don't get is Hitler was a failure of a man and not very smart. Smarter than Trump, but in no ways brilliant. Hitler was surrounded by much smarter men who drove the Nazi machine to where it went. Hitler was essentially the lady on the bow of the ship, but not the architect of the Third Reich.

Trump blundered into this. He did not do a handshake deal with Hillary Clinton.

Yes, it was perfect for Clinton, but that does not make the conspiracy theory true.

Face it, the Republican field mostly stunk to high heaven. That, plus the simple fact we live in a TV world that was in love with the train wreck called Trump only because it was good business.

Saying the "media" colluded with the DNC to promote Trump is just over the top and untrue.

What is true is the "media" by and large hates Trump because he is a dictator in the making who would try to put them out of business.

So what the press and TV shows did was promote his stupidity. It got them ratings and sank the knife in his back simultaneously.

He got what he deserved is what happened.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#1266 » by Capn'O » Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:32 pm

seren wrote:Reading the wikileaks, I am pretty much convinced the election is rigged. Hillary aides wanted Trump knowing that she had no chance against a typical Republican candidate. A guy like Kasich or Bush, your typical vanilla Republican would win the election easily. That is why the mainstream media gave all the free coverage to Trump during primaries. Fact is Trump is a friend of Clintons. He could care less about politics or being the president. He doesn't believe in what he says. His immigration stance is straight out of Ann Coulter's book. He showed he knows nothing about abortion (late term abortion a week before birth? That is called c-section you dummy). Hillary will win easily. Trump will get his TV channel. Bill and Donald will laugh to the bank. Republican base is bunch of idiots who can all easily be fooled.


Most early polls showed her neck and neck with Rubio/Bush/Kasich and co so there's not a definitely about it. What is true is that many in the media propped up Trump and then pulled the ol' switcheroo once he got the nomination. A bunch of us saw that coming last year. So the Trump nomination certainly helped but what it has also done is fragmented the Republican base into alt-right and Romney Republicans. Divide and conquer being the real intent of her campaigning.

Meanwhile, the Dems have also been fragmented into the progressive wing and the Bloomberg Democrats (which are a few tax lines and gentler race/climate change rhetoric away from being Romney Republicans). And they do NOT want that. There's a real opportunity for realignment after Hillary wins. And it's long overdue.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#1267 » by CJackson » Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:37 pm

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seren wrote:Reading the wikileaks, I am pretty much convinced the election is rigged. Hillary aides wanted Trump knowing that she had no chance against a typical Republican candidate. A guy like Kasich or Bush, your typical vanilla Republican would win the election easily. That is why the mainstream media gave all the free coverage to Trump during primaries. Fact is Trump is a friend of Clintons. He could care less about politics or being the president. He doesn't believe in what he says. His immigration stance is straight out of Ann Coulter's book. He showed he knows nothing about abortion (late term abortion a week before birth? That is called c-section you dummy). Hillary will win easily. Trump will get his TV channel. Bill and Donald will laugh to the bank. Republican base is bunch of idiots who can all easily be fooled.


Most early polls showed her neck and neck with Rubio/Bush/Kasich and co so there's not a definitely about it. What is true is that media propped up Trump and then pulled the ol' switcheroo once he got the nomination. A bunch of us saw that coming last year. So the Trump nomination certainly helped but what it has also done is fragmented the Republican base into alt-right and Romney Republicans. Divide and conquer being the real intent of her campaigning.

Meanwhile, the Dems have also been fragmented into the progressive wing and the Bloomberg Democrats (which are a few tax lines and gentler race/climate change rhetoric away from being Romney Republicans). And they do NOT want that. There's a real opportunity for realignment after Hillary wins. And it's long overdue.


Yes, Hillary saw all this and played it for all it was worth. It was advantageous to her to go up against Trump and she knew it. That's strategy, not conspiracy though. The media is naturally going to largely support Hillary because she is not their enemy. Trump is the enemy of the free press and anybody who has paid the slightest bit of attention knows the media has every right to stick it to Trump.

He threatened the press so they simply turned their spotlight on him and let him do the dirty work. They didn't have to do anything, just keep the cameras rolling.

Trump is his own worst enemy. And Hillary is glad for that.
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Post#1268 » by Capn'O » Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:45 pm

CJackson wrote:That's strategy, not conspiracy.


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Post#1269 » by reub » Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:59 pm

So Obama and company are attacking Mosul and civilians are being used as human shields and dying.. Are we responsible for killing innocents and committing genocide there?
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#1271 » by King of Canada » Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:00 am

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AmazingJason wrote:If Trump successfully launches a TV network, then I guess he hoodwinked the entire country. It would end up being one of greatest business ploys in the history of the world. Run for President, get 40% of the populace on his side (the deplorables :D ), tank the election, then launch the network. Could even partner up with Roger Ailes.


That is what he is doing

He only wants to win on the days where he is in the cocoon of his rallies or when Putin compliments him. When he has to deal with the reality of the justifiable backlash to being a complete ass hole then he doesn't like politics.

The rest of the time he is planning to continue his TV career. He has been looking for publicity from Day 1, but not to further a political vision by which to govern, but by which to monetize eyeballs.

Most cynical campaign in history, yet his faithful are too gullible not to understand the con.


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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#1272 » by N8isScofield » Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:12 am

King of Canada wrote:
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AmazingJason wrote:If Trump successfully launches a TV network, then I guess he hoodwinked the entire country. It would end up being one of greatest business ploys in the history of the world. Run for President, get 40% of the populace on his side (the deplorables :D ), tank the election, then launch the network. Could even partner up with Roger Ailes.


That is what he is doing

He only wants to win on the days where he is in the cocoon of his rallies or when Putin compliments him. When he has to deal with the reality of the justifiable backlash to being a complete ass hole then he doesn't like politics.

The rest of the time he is planning to continue his TV career. He has been looking for publicity from Day 1, but not to further a political vision by which to govern, but by which to monetize eyeballs.

Most cynical campaign in history, yet his faithful are too gullible not to understand the con.


Billy Bush will host his own show

And act in his more official capacity as Hug Procurer for Trump, Hannity and Roger Ailes.
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Post#1273 » by Kampuchea » Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:43 am

So what do the legitimate polls say now? There are so many biased polls it is difficult to differentiate out the decent ones.

I have registered my absentee ballot from overseas, just to get my vote in for Clinton that for me is more of a "not Trump" vote. If i eventually move back to the USA I hope they don't make it difficult for my Wife, who is Cambodian.
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Post#1274 » by KingDavid » Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:05 am

ClydeRules wrote:So Obama and company are attacking Mosul and civilians are being used as human shields and dying.. Are we responsible for killing innocents and committing genocide there?

Huh? The US is in Mosul now?

I thought we only aided them in training and advisment...
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Post#1275 » by CJackson » Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:19 am

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ClydeRules wrote:So Obama and company are attacking Mosul and civilians are being used as human shields and dying.. Are we responsible for killing innocents and committing genocide there?

Huh? The US is in Mosul now?

I thought we only aided them in training and advisment...


They are pushing ISIS out with the primary forces being Iraqi and Kurds.

Outskirts have been recaptured in the past ten days. Mosul will be ruined by the battle. Daesh tends to destroy much of what they leave behind and leave tons of bombs. It will probably take years and a half billion dollars just to recover all of the unexploded bombs and more than that to rebuild. Ramadi is still in ruins and full of bombs almost a year later.

But ISIS will be doomed in Iraq after it is over, so that's the plus. But the downside is hundreds of thousands more displaced people fleeing Mosul. Another humanitarian crisis.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#1276 » by BKlutch » Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:24 am

King of Canada wrote:
CJackson wrote:
AmazingJason wrote:If Trump successfully launches a TV network, then I guess he hoodwinked the entire country. It would end up being one of greatest business ploys in the history of the world. Run for President, get 40% of the populace on his side (the deplorables :D ), tank the election, then launch the network. Could even partner up with Roger Ailes.


That is what he is doing

He only wants to win on the days where he is in the cocoon of his rallies or when Putin compliments him. When he has to deal with the reality of the justifiable backlash to being a complete ass hole then he doesn't like politics.

The rest of the time he is planning to continue his TV career. He has been looking for publicity from Day 1, but not to further a political vision by which to govern, but by which to monetize eyeballs.

Most cynical campaign in history, yet his faithful are too gullible not to understand the con.


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Post#1278 » by CJackson » Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:30 am

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That is what he is doing

He only wants to win on the days where he is in the cocoon of his rallies or when Putin compliments him. When he has to deal with the reality of the justifiable backlash to being a complete ass hole then he doesn't like politics.

The rest of the time he is planning to continue his TV career. He has been looking for publicity from Day 1, but not to further a political vision by which to govern, but by which to monetize eyeballs.

Most cynical campaign in history, yet his faithful are too gullible not to understand the con.


Billy Bush will host his own show

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Post#1279 » by Smash3 » Sat Oct 22, 2016 3:27 am

Hopefully the good thing is, Cjax will eventually develop teflon skin from all these personal attacks. The truth is he needs it, because there's something off about this guy.
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Re: Can Trump wiggle out of this one? 

Post#1280 » by CJackson » Sat Oct 22, 2016 4:09 am

Smash3 wrote:Hopefully the good thing is, Cjax will eventually develop teflon skin from all these personal attacks. The truth is he needs it, because there's something off about this guy.


I stand up to guys like you all the time. If you were logical, you'd question your own toughness, not mine.

Guys like you initiate the insults, then slink into the shadows as you claim the person who sticks up for themselves is the one with the problem. Bizarro world indeed.

Suit yourself. I don't care.

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