2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.)

[j4remi]

i need to write anthony an apology letter.


after the blake griffin thing, i think every player, especially if i was to hypothetically be in the NBA should have some sort of NTC.

as much as I'd never want to play in LA because of all of the weirdos, i would never want to go from playing there to playing where it's **** freezing all the time.

What happened to IT in Boston got me thinking on it. Maybe conditional NTC's, which is to say...something like you have an NTC for the first half of the life of your contract. Idk, I hate the NTC situation we were in but some of these players really get done dirty.

[NoLayupRule]

NOOOOOOOO! Omar asik and a pick to Chicago
Miritichxyz to NO

ahh well

we didn't have anything as useful as Mirotic to sell them anyway

this helps our 2nd rounder at least

[NoLayupRule]

Hypothetical:

The Clippers call and say we interested in dealing you DeAndre Jordan and Lou Williams and we'll take back Noah's contract to make it work BUT we need both Willy Hernangomez and Frank Ntlikina. Do you do it? Easy no? At least entertain it?

easy no

Jordan is a great player and is always healthy so his contract is even better

but Lou Will isn't an answer here and we need to invest in our PG position even if Frank will only be a backup for life


nah, hold fast

[HarthorneWingo]

Just returning from my trip to the Sixers board. Looks like "the process" has hit a bit of a snag. The Markelle Fultz thread, in particular, is really fun to read if you like a lot of gore.

[br7knicks]

Hypothetical:

The Clippers call and say we interested in dealing you DeAndre Jordan and Lou Williams and we'll take back Noah's contract to make it work BUT we need both Willy Hernangomez and Frank Ntlikina. Do you do it? Easy no? At least entertain it?

The only part of that trade that helps the knicks is them taking noah.

Id love the knicks to have jordan, but it makes no sense. He ain't a spring chicken anymore.

I'd do willy/kanter and Noah. Not sure how many years jordan has tho

[GONYK]

i need to write anthony an apology letter.


after the blake griffin thing, i think every player, especially if i was to hypothetically be in the NBA should have some sort of NTC.

as much as I'd never want to play in LA because of all of the weirdos, i would never want to go from playing there to playing where it's **** freezing all the time.

What happened to IT in Boston got me thinking on it. Maybe conditional NTC's, which is to say...something like you have an NTC for the first half of the life of your contract. Idk, I hate the NTC situation we were in but some of these players really get done dirty.

That's part of the reason why they get paid so much. It's part of the job.

[Mecca]

I like Allen a lot.

[Mecca]

good kick out

[vallen]

i need to write anthony an apology letter.


after the blake griffin thing, i think every player, especially if i was to hypothetically be in the NBA should have some sort of NTC.

as much as I'd never want to play in LA because of all of the weirdos, i would never want to go from playing there to playing where it's **** freezing all the time.

What happened to IT in Boston got me thinking on it. Maybe conditional NTC's, which is to say...something like you have an NTC for the first half of the life of your contract. Idk, I hate the NTC situation we were in but some of these players really get done dirty.

they make more money then most people see in their lives. thats part of the job. the NBA players run the league as it is. they dont need more on top of it. plus fans in unappealing citys pay money too.

[Tron Carter]

I distinctly remember abe being high on bullock during his draft.

[xNewYorkMadex]

Lets say we have cap room by Kanter opting out and trading Lee for no salary in return in the off-season, would anyone take the chance of maxing out Jabari Parker?

Is coming off now 2 ACL injuries, but has shows to be a productive player when healthy. A solid 20/6 at 49% FG last season. We need a SF with size, will be 23 years old come next season.

Its the restricted max. So its not the "full max" players like veteran players get. But its still a gamble nonetheless. Im a fan of Parker, im kinda leaning towards taking the chance and see if the Bucks are willing to match it.

If he stays healthy it'll be a steal. But obviously its a big if.

[Newyorknick94]

Lets say we have cap room by Kanter opting out and trading Lee for no salary in return in the off-season, would anyone take the chance of maxing out Jabari Parker?

Is coming off now 2 ACL injuries, but has shows to be a productive player when healthy. A solid 20/6 at 49% FG last season. We need a SF with size, will be 23 years old come next season.

Its the restricted max. So its not the "full max" players like veteran players get. But its still a gamble nonetheless. Im a fan of Parker, im kinda leaning towards taking the chance and see if the Bucks are willing to match it.

If he stays healthy it'll be a steal. But obviously its a big if.

Maybe if we could include a team option in year 3 or something it’s a big risk to take

[NoLayupRule]

Players, again, are dropping like flies

Love and wall just today

Boogie and Robertson a few days ago

It’s astounding

[thebuzzardman]

Players, again, are dropping like flies

Love and wall just today

Boogie and Robertson a few days ago

It’s astounding

Yet none of these teams will want what the Knicks are selling.

Which is also astounding, just in a different way.

[br7knicks]

i need to write anthony an apology letter.


after the blake griffin thing, i think every player, especially if i was to hypothetically be in the NBA should have some sort of NTC.

as much as I'd never want to play in LA because of all of the weirdos, i would never want to go from playing there to playing where it's **** freezing all the time.

What happened to IT in Boston got me thinking on it. Maybe conditional NTC's, which is to say...something like you have an NTC for the first half of the life of your contract. Idk, I hate the NTC situation we were in but some of these players really get done dirty.

they make more money then most people see in their lives. thats part of the job. the NBA players run the league as it is. they dont need more on top of it. plus fans in unappealing citys pay money too.

i was really just being tongue-in-cheek. i live in upstate NY, it's **** freezing here, and i hate the cold.

[br7knicks]

Players, again, are dropping like flies

Love and wall just today

Boogie and Robertson a few days ago

It’s astounding

helps out my knicks to winning and making the playoffs

[j4remi]

That's part of the reason why they get paid so much. It's part of the job.

Why I bring up IT, he's still only getting paid like 7 mil and played a key recruiting role for the stars that Boston brought in. If you're a star player who is bringing in the money for the organization AND playing a pivotal role in their recruitment of others...I think the ability to negotiate NTC's makes a lot of sense and shouldn't be vilified bc of your salary; not with the amount of money the owners get to take in.

[GONYK]

That's part of the reason why they get paid so much. It's part of the job.

Why I bring up IT, he's still only getting paid like 7 mil and played a key recruiting role for the stars that Boston brought in. If you're a star player who is bringing in the money for the organization AND playing a pivotal role in their recruitment of others...I think the ability to negotiate NTC's makes a lot of sense and shouldn't be vilified bc of your salary; not with the amount of money the owners get to take in.

IT wasn't that level of player when he signed that deal though. He was pretty much a sparkplug off the bench type like Beasley is for us.

Now that he's established himself, he can go ahead and try to gain that type of clout during his next negotiation.

Blake had a chance to have an NTC. He passed it up to get the 5th year on his deal. Now he can assess which aspect of his contract was really more valuable to him.

[j4remi]

IT wasn't that level of player when he signed that deal though. He was pretty much a sparkplug off the bench type like Beasley is for us.

Now that he's established himself, he can go ahead and try to gain that type of clout during his next negotiation.

Blake had a chance to have an NTC. He passed it up to get the 5th year on his deal. Now he can assess which aspect of his contract was really more valuable to him.

I'm bringing them up specifically to say "players should be pushing for NTC's more often since organizations treat them so disposably" so no disagreement here. Just not tryna hear that their salaries precludes them from wanting security in other forms.

[GONYK]

IT wasn't that level of player when he signed that deal though. He was pretty much a sparkplug off the bench type like Beasley is for us.

Now that he's established himself, he can go ahead and try to gain that type of clout during his next negotiation.

Blake had a chance to have an NTC. He passed it up to get the 5th year on his deal. Now he can assess which aspect of his contract was really more valuable to him.

I'm bringing them up specifically to say "players should be pushing for NTC's more often since organizations treat them so disposably" so no disagreement here. Just not tryna hear that their salaries precludes them from wanting security in other forms.

If every player starts demanding NTC's, we'll see their salary/years come down (unless they are negotiating with Phil Jackson). I see a direct correlation.

They are getting security. They are just currently choosing financial security over geographic security. Blake certainly did.