Draft Thread 13 - The Field Thins

[N Y K]

that didn't take very long...

[vallen]

For once Wallys right. But we do need everything but a 4 so whomever the BPA is. And not according to mock drafts but according to the homework they've done.

[QBoro KnicksFan]

Knicks analyst’s draft wish is also indictment of their young PGs.

MSG Network’s Wally Szczerbiak likes both Villanova’s Mikal Bridges and Michigan State’s Miles Bridges — but believes the Knicks’ focus in the June 21 draft should be on their need for a top-line point guard.

Szczerbiak, who doubles as a CBS college basketball analyst, told The Post he would take point guard studs Trae Young or Collin Sexton at No. 9, if on the board, over either of the Bridges, who are both small forwards.

“The point guard position in a Knicks uniform has to be solidified,” Szczerbiak said. “It’s been too long. That’s been the big-time need for this franchise. Unless you have a game plan to get Kyrie [Irving] and can solidify it that way, I think the point guard position is the most important position.”

That’s hardly a vote of confidence for the young Knicks trio of Frank Ntilikina, Trey Burke and Emmanuel Mudiay.

“They have a lot of really good point guards, but do they have an impact point guard in the NBA?” Szczerbiak said. “That’s the question. The answer to me is, it doesn’t look like it.”

https://nypost.com/2018/06/12/knicks-analysts-draft-wish-is-also-indictment-of-their-young-pgs/

F*ck Wally Szczerbiak, he can eat a dick

[HEZI]

Y'all gotta chill with this revisionist history

High school Mitchell wouldn't even be drafted, let alone be a top 10 pick. It's not only Frank's long arms, Mitchell has a similar wingspan. Stop oversimplifying it

And you're the one that's gotta come in to threads and whine about Frank, so I don't know why you're acting like the victim

Malik asked me a question and I answered him what MY opinion was. Y'all are the ones who are butthurt about it. It's my opinion, don't care what you think. Kid was super raw even in Europe, y'all are the ones acting like he was Luka Doncic over there. Anyways, like I said, I answered a question that was asked to me, I didn't start the discussion I just engaged in it.

You're right, you didn't start it

BeagleBoss started by complaining about Frank (per usual) and saying the scouts that ranked him above Mitchell should be fired, then Fury responded to him, then he replied back.

After the third post, you replied with this:

It didn't make much sense to me either, especially when they put this graphic up on draft night



That shyt had me in tears

So no, you didn't answer a question that was asked to you, you decided to jump on the "bash Frank" bandwagon much like you do in other threads

And show me where I have ever said he was anything but super raw in Europe, or that he isn't super raw right now

Show me where I was bashing Frank? I laughed at the people who made that graphic and if you followed the rest of the thread you would get the reasons why. I still went out of my way to not bash Frank, because the truth is I actually like Frank and I'm rooting for him. I can like Frank for who he is and still accept it that he's not and never will be Donovan Mitchell, that seems hard to do for some people though. They haven't accepted it and feel they need to bash Mitchell to make themselves feel better about Frank.

[Marty McFly]

Knicks analyst’s draft wish is also indictment of their young PGs.

MSG Network’s Wally Szczerbiak likes both Villanova’s Mikal Bridges and Michigan State’s Miles Bridges — but believes the Knicks’ focus in the June 21 draft should be on their need for a top-line point guard.

Szczerbiak, who doubles as a CBS college basketball analyst, told The Post he would take point guard studs Trae Young or Collin Sexton at No. 9, if on the board, over either of the Bridges, who are both small forwards.

“The point guard position in a Knicks uniform has to be solidified,” Szczerbiak said. “It’s been too long. That’s been the big-time need for this franchise. Unless you have a game plan to get Kyrie [Irving] and can solidify it that way, I think the point guard position is the most important position.”

That’s hardly a vote of confidence for the young Knicks trio of Frank Ntilikina, Trey Burke and Emmanuel Mudiay.

“They have a lot of really good point guards, but do they have an impact point guard in the NBA?” Szczerbiak said. “That’s the question. The answer to me is, it doesn’t look like it.”

https://nypost.com/2018/06/12/knicks-analysts-draft-wish-is-also-indictment-of-their-young-pgs/

and then, when we draft a pg, and he doesn't ball out his 1st season, what then wally? we draft another point guard? **** both of wally's eyebrows.

[DOT]

Malik asked me a question and I answered him what MY opinion was. Y'all are the ones who are butthurt about it. It's my opinion, don't care what you think. Kid was super raw even in Europe, y'all are the ones acting like he was Luka Doncic over there. Anyways, like I said, I answered a question that was asked to me, I didn't start the discussion I just engaged in it.

You're right, you didn't start it

BeagleBoss started by complaining about Frank (per usual) and saying the scouts that ranked him above Mitchell should be fired, then Fury responded to him, then he replied back.

After the third post, you replied with this:

It didn't make much sense to me either, especially when they put this graphic up on draft night



That shyt had me in tears

So no, you didn't answer a question that was asked to you, you decided to jump on the "bash Frank" bandwagon much like you do in other threads

And show me where I have ever said he was anything but super raw in Europe, or that he isn't super raw right now

Show me where I was bashing Frank? I laughed at the people who made that graphic and if you followed the rest of the thread you would get the reasons why. I still went out of my way to not bash Frank, because the truth is I actually like Frank and I'm rooting for him. I can like Frank for who he is and still accept it that he's not and never will be Donovan Mitchell, that seems hard to do for some people though. They haven't accepted it and feel they need to bash Mitchell to make themselves feel better about Frank.

OK dude

You still haven't backed up your claims that I said Frank was a star in Europe or isn't still super raw, and now you're claiming that I bash Mitchell

You can say we missed on Mitchell, and that's a fair take. I've said that multiple times now. But I see you complaining about it all the time. That's why it's bashing Frank, cause you keep repeating it over and over. Like, we get it. Most of us would take Mitchell if we could go back, but we can't. Some of us just also like Frank. You can simultaneously think Mitchell will be the better player while also praising Frank

And again, you didn't have to get into Frank v Mitchell for the thousandth time, so stop pretending you're an innocent victim

[Sark]

A lot of articles are really high on Carter Jr. I don't know, I'd rather not take a big other than Bamba, but I guess I won't be too upset if we end up picking WCJ.

[mpharris36]

Knicks analyst’s draft wish is also indictment of their young PGs.

MSG Network’s Wally Szczerbiak likes both Villanova’s Mikal Bridges and Michigan State’s Miles Bridges — but believes the Knicks’ focus in the June 21 draft should be on their need for a top-line point guard.

Szczerbiak, who doubles as a CBS college basketball analyst, told The Post he would take point guard studs Trae Young or Collin Sexton at No. 9, if on the board, over either of the Bridges, who are both small forwards.

“The point guard position in a Knicks uniform has to be solidified,” Szczerbiak said. “It’s been too long. That’s been the big-time need for this franchise. Unless you have a game plan to get Kyrie [Irving] and can solidify it that way, I think the point guard position is the most important position.”

That’s hardly a vote of confidence for the young Knicks trio of Frank Ntilikina, Trey Burke and Emmanuel Mudiay.

“They have a lot of really good point guards, but do they have an impact point guard in the NBA?” Szczerbiak said. “That’s the question. The answer to me is, it doesn’t look like it.”

https://nypost.com/2018/06/12/knicks-analysts-draft-wish-is-also-indictment-of-their-young-pgs/

I've come to the conclusion Wally is one of the dumbest basketball analyst out there. He really knows noting about the game.

[newyorker4ever]

My question is: why does the media even know that the Knicks front office recieved calls about possible pick swap deals...

Knicks being completely unprofessional as usual..

They don't. This is just someone in the media starting another rumor which happens multiple times this time of year.

[N Y K]

A lot of articles are really high on Carter Jr. I don't know, I'd rather not take a big other than Bamba, but I guess I won't be too upset if we end up picking WCJ.

you will be upset, happy, chastised, relieved, and made a fool all at once. and you will like it.

[HEZI]

You're right, you didn't start it

BeagleBoss started by complaining about Frank (per usual) and saying the scouts that ranked him above Mitchell should be fired, then Fury responded to him, then he replied back.

After the third post, you replied with this:



So no, you didn't answer a question that was asked to you, you decided to jump on the "bash Frank" bandwagon much like you do in other threads

And show me where I have ever said he was anything but super raw in Europe, or that he isn't super raw right now

Show me where I was bashing Frank? I laughed at the people who made that graphic and if you followed the rest of the thread you would get the reasons why. I still went out of my way to not bash Frank, because the truth is I actually like Frank and I'm rooting for him. I can like Frank for who he is and still accept it that he's not and never will be Donovan Mitchell, that seems hard to do for some people though. They haven't accepted it and feel they need to bash Mitchell to make themselves feel better about Frank.

OK dude

You still haven't backed up your claims that I said Frank was a star in Europe or isn't still super raw, and now you're claiming that I bash Mitchell

You can say we missed on Mitchell, and that's a fair take. I've said that multiple times now. But I see you complaining about it all the time. That's why it's bashing Frank, cause you keep repeating it over and over. Like, we get it. Most of us would take Mitchell if we could go back, but we can't. Some of us just also like Frank. You can simultaneously think Mitchell will be the better player while also praising Frank

And again, you didn't have to get into Frank v Mitchell for the thousandth time, so stop pretending you're an innocent victim

The guy who's been in every Frank vs. Mitchell debate is telling people not to get into Frank vs. Mitchell debates? I''ll stop acting like the victim when you stop acting like you are so different than everybody else who takes part in these discussions when you've participated in your share of them as well and couldn't avoid this one either.

So do I answer your question now or no? If I do then the discussion keeps going

[DOT]

Show me where I was bashing Frank? I laughed at the people who made that graphic and if you followed the rest of the thread you would get the reasons why. I still went out of my way to not bash Frank, because the truth is I actually like Frank and I'm rooting for him. I can like Frank for who he is and still accept it that he's not and never will be Donovan Mitchell, that seems hard to do for some people though. They haven't accepted it and feel they need to bash Mitchell to make themselves feel better about Frank.

OK dude

You still haven't backed up your claims that I said Frank was a star in Europe or isn't still super raw, and now you're claiming that I bash Mitchell

You can say we missed on Mitchell, and that's a fair take. I've said that multiple times now. But I see you complaining about it all the time. That's why it's bashing Frank, cause you keep repeating it over and over. Like, we get it. Most of us would take Mitchell if we could go back, but we can't. Some of us just also like Frank. You can simultaneously think Mitchell will be the better player while also praising Frank

And again, you didn't have to get into Frank v Mitchell for the thousandth time, so stop pretending you're an innocent victim

The guy who's been in every Frank vs. Mitchell debate is telling people not to get into Frank vs. Mitchell debates? I''ll stop acting like the victim when you stop acting like you are so different than everybody else who takes part in these discussions when you've participated in your share of them as well and couldn't avoid this one either.

So do I answer your question now or no? If I do then the discussion keeps going

Alright dude, I can see you can't deal with the idea that someone agrees we should've taken Mitchell over Frank but doesn't self-flagellate every day over it

Have a nice night, this discussion is over

[E-Balla]

Thank you for not getting too mad at being put in your place.

It happens

Serious question, do you even know what my first post said that you were responding to? Know what the conversation was? Do you even know what you said or did you see an opportunity to nitpick and say technically no one knows the future so no pick is a bad draft pick as if that's making a point? Like was that really profound to you? You click submit and think to yourself "now I got him, another win for semantic man"?

Why so mad?

And there's my answer.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Knicks analyst’s draft wish is also indictment of their young PGs.

MSG Network’s Wally Szczerbiak likes both Villanova’s Mikal Bridges and Michigan State’s Miles Bridges — but believes the Knicks’ focus in the June 21 draft should be on their need for a top-line point guard.

Szczerbiak, who doubles as a CBS college basketball analyst, told The Post he would take point guard studs Trae Young or Collin Sexton at No. 9, if on the board, over either of the Bridges, who are both small forwards.

“The point guard position in a Knicks uniform has to be solidified,” Szczerbiak said. “It’s been too long. That’s been the big-time need for this franchise. Unless you have a game plan to get Kyrie [Irving] and can solidify it that way, I think the point guard position is the most important position.”

That’s hardly a vote of confidence for the young Knicks trio of Frank Ntilikina, Trey Burke and Emmanuel Mudiay.

“They have a lot of really good point guards, but do they have an impact point guard in the NBA?” Szczerbiak said. “That’s the question. The answer to me is, it doesn’t look like it.”

https://nypost.com/2018/06/12/knicks-analysts-draft-wish-is-also-indictment-of-their-young-pgs/

I've come to the conclusion Wally is one of the dumbest basketball analyst out there. He really knows noting about the game.

Trash. I can't stand listening to him talk about himself constantly....or anything really. Absolute trash.

[SpikJagger]

Please no point guard. Please.

[HEZI]

OK dude

You still haven't backed up your claims that I said Frank was a star in Europe or isn't still super raw, and now you're claiming that I bash Mitchell

You can say we missed on Mitchell, and that's a fair take. I've said that multiple times now. But I see you complaining about it all the time. That's why it's bashing Frank, cause you keep repeating it over and over. Like, we get it. Most of us would take Mitchell if we could go back, but we can't. Some of us just also like Frank. You can simultaneously think Mitchell will be the better player while also praising Frank

And again, you didn't have to get into Frank v Mitchell for the thousandth time, so stop pretending you're an innocent victim

The guy who's been in every Frank vs. Mitchell debate is telling people not to get into Frank vs. Mitchell debates? I''ll stop acting like the victim when you stop acting like you are so different than everybody else who takes part in these discussions when you've participated in your share of them as well and couldn't avoid this one either.

So do I answer your question now or no? If I do then the discussion keeps going

Alright dude, I can see you can't deal with the idea that someone agrees we should've taken Mitchell over Frank but doesn't self-flagellate every day over it

Have a nice night, this discussion is over

That's where you got things twisted. You seem to be missing the whole context of these discussions. If you can't see the relationship in these debates with the topic of this thread then I don't know what to tell you. Every Frank vs. Mitchell debate relates to our scouting team, front office decision making and how it affects us leading up this upcoming draft. The past is the past and nobody can change it now, but that's not the point of the discussion right now.

[fatalogic]

I don't get Wally's Sexton lovefest. I think Sexton will be fine but I don't love his fit with the Knicks especially with his lack of shooting. If they are going to move Frank off the ball it better be for a defense bending offensive talent. Obviously for his job he probably doesn't want to have to analyse another season of losing but it is what it is. Knicks probably blew their shot at a game changing talent a few months ago.

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i like his upside better than the bridges but i would take mikal over him still

[robillionaire]

i'm still high on knox. wouldn't be mad if we saw something in him to pick him. I like him better than some of the other prospects in our range