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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1261 » by 2010 » Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:37 am

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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1262 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Jun 13, 2020 3:02 am

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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1264 » by ellobo » Sat Jun 13, 2020 5:31 am

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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1265 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:32 am

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HarthorneWingo wrote:
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Spoiler:
This is a public service announcement...
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Know your rights
All three of them!

Number one
You have the right not to be killed
Murder is a crime
Unless it was done...
By a policeman!
Or an aristocrat

Oh, know your rights

And number two
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Providing of course
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Investigation, humiliation
And if you cross your fingers...
Rehabilitation!

Know your rights
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Hey, say, Wang!
Oh, know these rights

Number three
You have the right to free speech
As long as
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Know your rights
These are your rights
Oh, know your rights
These are your rights
All three of 'em
Ha!

It has been suggested in some quarters
That this is not enough
Well...
Get off the streets
Run!
Get off the streets
Run!


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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1266 » by Fat Kat » Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:43 am

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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1267 » by Context » Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:50 pm

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I'm just saying I'm not hopeful on the whole. Someone in law enforcement whom I generally respect and who has always comported himself as a cop who follows procedure and regulation, referred to that video as a means of communicating his thoughts on the situation we find our country in right now. That's all. Even the good guys on the force are either brain washed or silenced.

ok - I kind of sensed that was the spirit of your post-just dont like to assume...

I can't disagree with the expectation but I feel like a cop could break rank- i have a sneaky feeling...we really need a purge Cobra...


A cop did break rank. His name was Christopher Dorner. And we already know what happened to him.

This story is wild- I'm reading his manifesto- did you get a chance to read it? For anyone who hasnt- I suggest you check it out:
https://laist.com/2013/02/07/christopher_dorners_manifesto_in_fu.php


Excerpt:

I have exhausted all available means at obtaining my name back. I have attempted all legal court efforts within appeals at the Superior Courts and California Appellate courts. This is my last resort. The LAPD has suppressed the truth and it has now lead to deadly consequences. The LAPD's actions have cost me my law enforcement career that began on 2/7/05 and ended on 1/2/09. They cost me my Naval career which started on 4/02 and ends on 2/13. I had a TS/SCI clearance(Top Secret Sensitive Compartmentalized Information clearance) up until shortly after my termination with LAPD. This is the highest clearance a service member can attain other than a Yankee White TS/SCI which is only granted for those working with and around the President/Vice President of the United States. I lost my position as a Commanding Officer of a Naval Security Forces reserve unit at NAS Fallon because of the LAPD. I've lost a relationship with my mother and sister because of the LAPD. I've lost a relationship with close friends because of the LAPD. In essence, I've lost everything because the LAPD took my name and new I was INNOCENT!!! ——-, ——-, ——-,——- and ——- all new I was innocent but decided to terminate me so they could continue Ofcr. ——-. I know about the meeting between all of you where ——- attorney, ——-, confessed that she kicked ——- (excessive force). Your day has come.


Luckily I don't have to live everyday like most of you. Concerned if the misconduct you were apart of is going to be discovered. Looking over your shoulder, scurrying at every phone call from internal affairs or from the Captains office wondering if that is the day PSB comes after you for the suspects you struck when they were cuffed months/years ago or that $500 you pocketed from the narcotics dealer, or when the other guys on your watch beat a transient nearly to death and you never reported the UOF to the supervisor. No, I don't have that concern, I stood up for what was right but unfortunately have dealt with the reprocussions of doing the right thing and now losing my name and everything I ever stood for. You **** knew ——- was guilty of kicking (excessive force) ——- and you did nothing but get rid of what you saw as the problem, the whistleblower. ——- himself stated on video tape ( provided for the BOR and in transcripts) he was kicked and even his father stated that his son said he was kicked by ——- when he was released from custody. The video was played for the entire BOR to hear. You're going to see what a whistleblower can do when you take everything from him especially his NAME!!!


Look what you did to Sgt. ——- (now lieutenant) when he exposed the truth of your lying, racism, and PSB cover-ups to frame and convict an innocent man. You can not police yourselves and the consent decree was unsuccessful. Sgt. ——-, I met you on the range several times as a recruit and as an officer. You're a good man and I saw it in your eyes an actions.

Self Preservation is no longer important to me. I do not fear death as I died long ago on 1/2/09. I was told by my mother that sometimes bad things happen to good people. I refuse to accept that.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1270 » by 2010 » Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:58 pm

Context wrote:
2010 wrote:
Context wrote:ok - I kind of sensed that was the spirit of your post-just dont like to assume...

I can't disagree with the expectation but I feel like a cop could break rank- i have a sneaky feeling...we really need a purge Cobra...


A cop did break rank. His name was Christopher Dorner. And we already know what happened to him.

This story is wild- I'm reading his manifesto- did you get a chance to read it? For anyone who hasnt- I suggest you check it out:
https://laist.com/2013/02/07/christopher_dorners_manifesto_in_fu.php


Excerpt:

I have exhausted all available means at obtaining my name back. I have attempted all legal court efforts within appeals at the Superior Courts and California Appellate courts. This is my last resort. The LAPD has suppressed the truth and it has now lead to deadly consequences. The LAPD's actions have cost me my law enforcement career that began on 2/7/05 and ended on 1/2/09. They cost me my Naval career which started on 4/02 and ends on 2/13. I had a TS/SCI clearance(Top Secret Sensitive Compartmentalized Information clearance) up until shortly after my termination with LAPD. This is the highest clearance a service member can attain other than a Yankee White TS/SCI which is only granted for those working with and around the President/Vice President of the United States. I lost my position as a Commanding Officer of a Naval Security Forces reserve unit at NAS Fallon because of the LAPD. I've lost a relationship with my mother and sister because of the LAPD. I've lost a relationship with close friends because of the LAPD. In essence, I've lost everything because the LAPD took my name and new I was INNOCENT!!! ——-, ——-, ——-,——- and ——- all new I was innocent but decided to terminate me so they could continue Ofcr. ——-. I know about the meeting between all of you where ——- attorney, ——-, confessed that she kicked ——- (excessive force). Your day has come.


Luckily I don't have to live everyday like most of you. Concerned if the misconduct you were apart of is going to be discovered. Looking over your shoulder, scurrying at every phone call from internal affairs or from the Captains office wondering if that is the day PSB comes after you for the suspects you struck when they were cuffed months/years ago or that $500 you pocketed from the narcotics dealer, or when the other guys on your watch beat a transient nearly to death and you never reported the UOF to the supervisor. No, I don't have that concern, I stood up for what was right but unfortunately have dealt with the reprocussions of doing the right thing and now losing my name and everything I ever stood for. You **** knew ——- was guilty of kicking (excessive force) ——- and you did nothing but get rid of what you saw as the problem, the whistleblower. ——- himself stated on video tape ( provided for the BOR and in transcripts) he was kicked and even his father stated that his son said he was kicked by ——- when he was released from custody. The video was played for the entire BOR to hear. You're going to see what a whistleblower can do when you take everything from him especially his NAME!!!


Look what you did to Sgt. ——- (now lieutenant) when he exposed the truth of your lying, racism, and PSB cover-ups to frame and convict an innocent man. You can not police yourselves and the consent decree was unsuccessful. Sgt. ——-, I met you on the range several times as a recruit and as an officer. You're a good man and I saw it in your eyes an actions.

Self Preservation is no longer important to me. I do not fear death as I died long ago on 1/2/09. I was told by my mother that sometimes bad things happen to good people. I refuse to accept that.


Yeah, I followed that story closely as it went down at the time. His manifesto is a long read, but it hit hard. His story is the extreme version of what happens to the good cops who becone whistleblowers and face retaliation among their peers for it. So he felt he had to take matters into his own hands to reclaim his name.

This was a guy who once found a large sum of cash ($10,000 iirc) while serving in the military and returned it all to a civilian.

Even the end, how they killed him spoke volumes. They made sure to burn him alive in that cabin and make an example of him. It’s very similar to how they used to burn alive or make an example of a slave who broke shackle or rebelled.

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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1271 » by Capn'O » Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:31 pm

It's too bad he wasn't able to go viral with his story. And I don't mean this in a condescending, finger wagging sort of way as what he was up against was enormous. He had a good/evil worldview and probably wasn't savvy in coordinating those outlets. Plus, there was less steam behind social movements exposing LE corruption at that time. It's just too bad.

He had a critical story to tell and a lot of it was lost in the drama of how he went down.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1273 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:33 pm

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This is the problem with these police unions. The fckheads act like they're Mayors. They have it in their heads that these cities and towns belong to them because they're the ones with the power to arrest and the power to kill. These cops are drunk with power.

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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1274 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:35 pm

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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1275 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:09 pm

Those white “protesters” who were/are doing all of that rioting and destruction are ass_hole, alt-right douche bags “Boogaloo” and not ANTIFA. ANTIFA are the good guys who protect the protester from these white supremacist thugs.

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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1276 » by 2010 » Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:44 pm

Capn'O wrote:It's too bad he wasn't able to go viral with his story. And I don't mean this in a condescending, finger wagging sort of way as what he was up against was enormous. He had a good/evil worldview and probably wasn't savvy in coordinating those outlets. Plus, there was less steam behind social movements exposing LE corruption at that time. It's just too bad.

He had a critical story to tell and a lot of it was lost in the drama of how he went down.


Tbh Cap, the only reason George Floyd's death has gained so much support from all over the world is for 2 simple reasons.

1. The visual effect of it being viewed on a recording with the culprit showing such a blatant disregard for human life while in complete control of the situation with Floyd totally subdued.

2. Coronavirus
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1277 » by 2010 » Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:47 pm

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This is the problem with these police unions. The fckheads act like they're Mayors. They have it in their heads that these cities and towns belong to them because they're the ones with the power to arrest and the power to kill. These cops are drunk with power.


I'm no fan of him but don't forget they openly disrespected Mayor DeBlasio and turned their backs on him several times in a public display of defiance. They absolutely view themselves as above the law and the outright disrespect for their boss (the mayor) was startling.

Imagine military servicemen disrespecting the President or a decorated officer. It would never happen.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1278 » by Capn'O » Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:44 pm

2010 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:It's too bad he wasn't able to go viral with his story. And I don't mean this in a condescending, finger wagging sort of way as what he was up against was enormous. He had a good/evil worldview and probably wasn't savvy in coordinating those outlets. Plus, there was less steam behind social movements exposing LE corruption at that time. It's just too bad.

He had a critical story to tell and a lot of it was lost in the drama of how he went down.


Tbh Cap, the only reason George Floyd's death has gained so much support from all over the world is for 2 simple reasons.

1. The visual effect of it being viewed on a recording with the culprit showing such a blatant disregard for human life while in complete control of the situation with Floyd totally subdued.

2. Coronavirus


Absolutely.

But it built on a base that came before it. Namely, the Twitterverse that has drawn attention to previous incidents. The revolution won't be televised but it has been Twittervised. (White) people were a little more primed to process this event properly. IIRC, back then we were still having discussions of whether cops should be taped at all.

It doesn't seem like Dorner was wired like that though. To think "go to the media" you've got to accept some degree of doubt with the system to begin with and he wanted to believe so badly. You can read it in that manifesto. When he finally realized it would always fail him he snapped.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1279 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:08 pm

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2010 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:It's too bad he wasn't able to go viral with his story. And I don't mean this in a condescending, finger wagging sort of way as what he was up against was enormous. He had a good/evil worldview and probably wasn't savvy in coordinating those outlets. Plus, there was less steam behind social movements exposing LE corruption at that time. It's just too bad.

He had a critical story to tell and a lot of it was lost in the drama of how he went down.


Tbh Cap, the only reason George Floyd's death has gained so much support from all over the world is for 2 simple reasons.

1. The visual effect of it being viewed on a recording with the culprit showing such a blatant disregard for human life while in complete control of the situation with Floyd totally subdued.

2. Coronavirus


Absolutely.

But it built on a base that came before it. Namely, the Twitterverse that has drawn attention to previous incidents. The revolution won't be televised but it has been Twittervised. (White) people were a little more primed to process this event properly. IIRC, back then we were still having discussions of whether cops should be taped at all.

It doesn't seem like Dorner was wired like that though. To think "go to the media" you've got to accept some degree of doubt with the system to begin with and he wanted to believe so badly. You can read it in that manifesto. When he finally realized it would always fail him he snapped.


Plus, Floyd's murder was preceded by Trump tweeting to liberate the state capitols. It finally dawned on a critical mass of people of all races that racist whites with rifles on the steps of state capitols will be tolerated by the government while unarmed people of color are put down like dogs.

When Floyd was killed, that juxtaposition was still very recently etched in the public consciousness.

It crystallized the undeniable fact that institutional racism and police brutality has an enabler who is a domestic terrorist in the WH. The protests were against all of it, but Trump is the gasoline on the flames.

Once the protests started, telling governors to "dominate" and gassing the peaceful protestors outside the WH was the tipping point past which Trump lost all future support of military leadership.

They will be more than glad now to escort him out of the building on January 20th.
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Re: OT: Cops kill George Floyd 

Post#1280 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:09 pm

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