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OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2

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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1281 » by DowNY » Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:56 pm

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I agree with with all of this, except for the fact that he can't truly put anyone over. Yes Owens got 1 win over him but it wasn't for the title. And for him to lose the title, it almost always has to be done through cheating.

Would it have KILLED him to lose to Owens last Sunday? No. Not at all. It would have totally elevated someone to a main event level. You'd think with Cena nearing 40, they'd try to create a new mega star...but nope. Same old ****. The tap out is what really killed it for me.


I agree about him tapping out Owens. Owens had so much steam. If he beats Cena clean for the title... would have been epic. But maybe they have bigger plans for Cena's eventual loss. But again, I agree with the sentiment that Cena is too untouchable, and after more than 10 years of this sht, I'm absolutely looking forward to the day he calls it quits, or turns heel in epic fashion ala Hogan. Cena works his ass off and is a great performer on a lot of levels.. but in terms of pure wrestling... he's terrible. He takes bumps like a giant pussy and his offense is so far from believable looking.. every match he has, there's at least one really cringe-worthy moment where I smh and wonder why Bret Hart gives this guy so much props as a worker (probably just trying to stay on WWE's good side). Which brings me to my next topic..

The fact that you agreed with Polk on his piss poor assessment of Rollins makes we want to put both of you on ignore. The weakest champ since the Miz? Put yourself on ignore. This guy is the best in-ring performer in the last 10 years at least. Cena wishes he could wrestle like Rollins who also continues to impress me on the mic. Regardless of what you feel about the actual storyline, Rollins gives everything he has to his character. He has played his role perfectly and I love watching him every week. If he wasn't around, there's a good chance I don't watch wrestling anymore.


I actually like Rollins a lot as a wrestler and performer. I am just sick to death of the Authority storyline. Me referring to him being a weak champion has nothing to do with his skills or mic ability. It has to do with how cowardly he looks every week hiding behind the Authority. Even last week when Lesner and Taker were going at it and he shows up after the segment talking smack. That IS a Miz like move. There is no edge to Rollins like a comparable Orton so he comes off looking weak every time out. Hell he got killed by Lesner and would have been the most lopsided title defense in history had it not been for the Undertaker making the entire storyline leading up to it forgettable.

What did you want Seth to come out & say on Raw then? You do know he's a heel? Do you know the definition of a heel? To call it a Miz move is a super reach. You connect that to Miz because Miz is great at being a heel & is a great talker/promo guy. That's why he stuck with WWE.
During CM Punk's title run , he turned heel in the middle of it with Paul Heyman & he started to act cowardly as well. It's what being heel is about, gaining heat & making fans hate you. There's different types of heels but they're all in the same group. Hell I remember the Rock getting help from the Cooperation a lot too during his 1st title run.

Also, of course Rollins was getting dominated by Lesnar. That's Lesnar's character. Leans dominated Cena last year for the damn title. The only 1 that has put up a fight in a year and a half has been Taker.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1282 » by spree8 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:59 pm

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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1283 » by Dr. Detfink » Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:50 pm

Cena's performance in Trainwreck was better than 90% of the promos he cut over the course of his career.

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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1284 » by GameTime_3 » Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:39 pm

Interested in seeing what happens today. The Taker vs. Brock story line is WrestleMaina worth and were getting it now.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1285 » by delvec19 » Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:48 pm

GameTime_3 wrote:Interested in seeing what happens today. The Taker vs. Brock story line is WrestleMaina worth and were getting it now.


We also got it a year and a half ago.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1286 » by GameTime_3 » Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:17 pm

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GameTime_3 wrote:Interested in seeing what happens today. The Taker vs. Brock story line is WrestleMaina worth and were getting it now.


We also got it a year and a half ago.


Yep. During peak season. What more can you ask for than this? During WM they bring out all the bad boys. Tanker on Raw? That's a good thing. I'm not the biggest fan but I watch and it was getting really bad fast. I couldn't take much more and then this..
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1287 » by Stannis » Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:21 pm

This got me lmao:

https://mobile.twitter.com/WHU_Boulcott/status/625642787803930624

Those are two soccer players. A dude is messing with Hogan and Hogan thinks they are just some random fans.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1288 » by Stannis » Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:28 pm

I think WWE handled it ridiculously because they are racist themselves. You can't just erase Hogan from history. Just Fire him.

It's just funny WWE went this over the top when they are so racist itself. They just hide it now in this PG era.

Remember JBL hunting Mexicans:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x119jd_jbl-kicks-out-illegals_events

Or his Nazi salute.

Now he has a good job as a commentator.

What about this with Triple H?:

http://youtu.be/r4RebbQqQz4

Now he's gonna be the one running the company after Vince retires.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1289 » by Carl_Karlson » Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:09 pm

Cena got his nose broken on raw by seth rollins

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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1290 » by Dr. Detfink » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:50 am

Amy Schumer won't like that.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1291 » by Trav_NYK » Wed Jul 29, 2015 2:47 pm

Carl_Karlson wrote:Cena got his nose broken on raw by seth rollins

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as soon as it happened you knew it was real lol that was one of the best matches on Raw in a while.

Rollins pulled out some crazy moves and Cena pulled out the win... I hope that they fight for both titles at Summer Slam and hopefully Rollins wins. Then they can get rid of the US title and have only one mid card title. They need it cuz the IC storyline has really been lacking.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1292 » by BeagleBoss » Wed Jul 29, 2015 3:16 pm

Carl_Karlson wrote:Cena got his nose broken on raw by seth rollins

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Too bad it won't keep Cena out of SummerSlam. :banghead:
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1293 » by Triple C » Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:15 pm

Roddy Piper has passed away.

Damn.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1294 » by poeman » Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:23 pm

Triple C wrote:Roddy Piper has passed away.

Damn.


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Dude had that elite skill on the mic. What a heel. He did seem to bellow out and yell that I thought he was going to get a heart attack.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1295 » by JXL » Sat Aug 1, 2015 12:22 am

He's a true legend and the definition of an ICON. Often imitated, never duplicated.

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Post#1296 » by Bill Pidto » Sat Aug 1, 2015 6:09 pm

Stannis wrote:I think WWE handled it ridiculously because they are racist themselves. You can't just erase Hogan from history. Just Fire him.

It's just funny WWE went this over the top when they are so racist itself. They just hide it now in this PG era.

Remember JBL hunting Mexicans:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x119jd_jbl-kicks-out-illegals_events

Or his Nazi salute.

Now he has a good job as a commentator.

What about this with Triple H?:

http://youtu.be/r4RebbQqQz4

Now he's gonna be the one running the company after Vince retires.


Yeah it's disgusting. Obviously Hogan is a jackass, but Vince and WWE is no better. Hypocrites and cowards. Just imagine the kind of scum working for them behind the scenes. People whose names we don't even know. Corporate scum. That place is a paranoid mess.

I love Vince for so many reasons. I think he's one of the most creative people to ever live, and I could never hate him purely because of how much I loved wrestling at its peak when I was a kid, and how great he was on camera. I give him all the credit in the world for that. But it's time for him to retire and step away from the entire business. Hand it over to Steph, and/or maybe another group of young, fresh minds who can reinvent the business a bit without him stepping on everyone's throats. Just cleanse the company of all the crap. There's a lot of it floating around there.

The product itself is still stale as f*ck, which is a shame because they have a lot of young talent now, and it has some flashes of brilliance here and there. Especially in the last couple of years since the Shield broke through. Ironically, we need another attitude era to combat the stench of evil corporate f*ckery and shareholder d*ck riding. Give it back to the fans who made it what it is. As if the kids won't enjoy a product with a little more edge and better story telling. We don't need all the objectifying of females and foul language for it to be a more mature show. We just need less cheesey BS and childish humor. Less attention to the guys like Cena and Big Show who can't hang with guys like Rollins, Ziggler and Daniel Bryan. I even love Reigns now. Give these young guys an opportunity to be themselves and step outside the box a bit. On the mic and in the ring.

Wow- this can become an epic rant if I don't stop here. RIP Hot Rod.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1297 » by majortom71 » Sun Aug 2, 2015 5:50 am

Man I just read about Rody's passing...
That sucks! I grew up on WWF in the 80s and he was one of my faves :(
RIP!
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1298 » by xNewYorkMadex » Sat Aug 8, 2015 1:21 am

I feel wrestling needs to seriously consider an off-season. Either after WM or during November and December.

It gives everyone time off to get their body healthy. Gives the writers a better chance to write better storylines and think in advance, Instead of constantly writing on a week to week basis. Also, it gives us a chance to miss wrestlers. Example: I was getting a little tired of Daniel Bryan and the Yes chant. Thought it was getting played out. Now that hes been gone for a while, I actually miss it and cant wait to see him return.

Also, Raw needs to be cut back to 2 hours. Wrestlers like Bray, Roman, Dean should ideally be in the IC title hunt. They were going in the right direction with Daniel Bryan holding the belt until he got injured. Cena has done a fantastic job with the U.S title belt. Since they need to fill 3 hrs worth of crap, they never have the wrestlers that I mentioned before in the IC title hunt because they are over enough with the crowd that they dont need it. Instead they give low mid carders the opportunity to win the IC title, and it waters down the belt. They try to make wrestlers relevant by chasing or winning the IC title belt. But it should be the other way around like Cena is doing. Bray holding the IC title belt would be fun to watch and would instantly make the title relevant again. If Raw was 2 hrs, they time filling would likely stop and we would see the big names going after the mid card belts again.

Just a couple things I would change about Raw. And im much more of a casual fan than hardcore.

Also think the hardcore internet wrestling community need to calm down a bit. Never seen a passionate fanbase notoriously unhappy or complain about this or that. Love the enthusiasm, but damn.
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Post#1299 » by wolfv » Sat Aug 8, 2015 2:57 am

Yeah I've always liked the idea of them having an offseason after WM. If Tough Enough was actually any good, they could start showing that weekly on tv during the offseason, really try to get the WWE universe (god I hate that term) behind the contestants so that they will be excited to see the winner's "rookie season" when wrestling starts up again.
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Post#1300 » by kingquan316 » Sat Aug 8, 2015 7:57 am

xNewYorkMadex wrote:I feel wrestling needs to seriously consider an off-season. Either after WM or during November and December.

It gives everyone time off to get their body healthy. Gives the writers a better chance to write better storylines and think in advance, Instead of constantly writing on a week to week basis. Also, it gives us a chance to miss wrestlers. Example: I was getting a little tired of Daniel Bryan and the Yes chant. Thought it was getting played out. Now that hes been gone for a while, I actually miss it and cant wait to see him return.

Also, Raw needs to be cut back to 2 hours. Wrestlers like Bray, Roman, Dean should ideally be in the IC title hunt. They were going in the right direction with Daniel Bryan holding the belt until he got injured. Cena has done a fantastic job with the U.S title belt. Since they need to fill 3 hrs worth of crap, they never have the wrestlers that I mentioned before in the IC title hunt because they are over enough with the crowd that they dont need it. Instead they give low mid carders the opportunity to win the IC title, and it waters down the belt. They try to make wrestlers relevant by chasing or winning the IC title belt. But it should be the other way around like Cena is doing. Bray holding the IC title belt would be fun to watch and would instantly make the title relevant again. If Raw was 2 hrs, they time filling would likely stop and we would see the big names going after the mid card belts again.

Just a couple things I would change about Raw. And im much more of a casual fan than hardcore.

Also think the hardcore internet wrestling community need to calm down a bit. Never seen a passionate fanbase notoriously unhappy or complain about this or that. Love the enthusiasm, but damn.


U a Knick fan, u should be use to it with our fan base lol.

I gave up on there ever being a offseason, not with Vince still in charge. I would cut down on some house shows, and maybe do a split roster like they did before, with certain wrestlers working the majority on raw, and other wrestlers working the majority on smack down. The top wrestlers now a days (except Cena) has to work both shows, and it adds up the wear and tear, and that isn't good when u use your top drawing wrestlers all the time.

The biggest problem with wwe right now is that they have terrible writers, and the story lines are not engaging or captivating. They have their moments though, but it isn't must see tv every week like it was back in the day. Vince needs to retire, and let Triple h take over. I don't know if he will be better, he could actually be worst, but Im ready for a fresh mind to take over the product and see something different. Cause honestly if Cena winning the title for the 16th time (which could happen at summerslam) doesn't scream stale, then I don't know what could.

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