Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor

[DaGawd]

Avery said it best in his piece.. most point guards in the league nowadays aren’t necessarily ball movers

[3toheadmelo]

Sexton is probably worth trading Obi for but Obi's athleticism and ability to get easy baskets at the rim is truly intriguing.

Think of how easily Giannis - not that Obi is anywhere near that level of talent or athleticism - can finish at the rim and get easy baskets for his team. It just raises his team's overall efficiency.

Randle and RJ have to labor to get their points. That's why their efficiency is below-average. And that's why I'm not sure we can keep both of them.

Obi has flashed the potential of a guy who can score efficiently at the rim. His athleticism is a breath of fresh air.

If thats all you talking about he has, you can find that with Isiah Jackson from Kentucky. Replacing Obis Strengths is one of the easiest things to do.

Shoot You can get Richaun Holmes who is a FA this offseason, and he will provide more than what Obi does.

I think Obi was being developed the right way in year 1, and found himself stuck behind Randle. There's no doubt in my mind he could've put up numbers on a team that wasn't trying to win, as other young players do. I give Thibs credit for his development.

I was very much against the pick last year but not only does Obi have great athleticism, he also has great touch around the rim. He passes the eye test as a guy who can capitalize at the rim and convert his chances. He can get easy baskets. Julius and RJ are both bad finishers around the rim. It holds our offense back in terms of efficiency.

I personally don't consider Randle untouchable for whatever it's worth. This front office probably does however.

I just think Obi's actual value exceeds his perceived value based on the upside that he flashed in limited minutes. I don't think he's another Kevin Knox or Frank Ntilikina.

He’ll probably end up as a quality back up big. I guess that’s better than Frank and Knox but I still wouldn’t hesitate to trade him for a young player like Sexton. In fact he is the first thing I am offering since he’s like our best asset

I know a lot of people like what Obi showed in the playoffs but to be honest I thought it wasn’t anything special

[TerrenceClarke]

Sexton is probably worth trading Obi for but Obi's athleticism and ability to get easy baskets at the rim is truly intriguing.

Think of how easily Giannis - not that Obi is anywhere near that level of talent or athleticism - can finish at the rim and get easy baskets for his team. It just raises his team's overall efficiency.

Randle and RJ have to labor to get their points. That's why their efficiency is below-average. And that's why I'm not sure we can keep both of them.

Obi has flashed the potential of a guy who can score efficiently at the rim. His athleticism is a breath of fresh air.

If thats all you talking about he has, you can find that with Isiah Jackson from Kentucky. Replacing Obis Strengths is one of the easiest things to do.

Shoot You can get Richaun Holmes who is a FA this offseason, and he will provide more than what Obi does.

I think Obi was being developed the right way in year 1, and found himself stuck behind Randle. There's no doubt in my mind he could've put up numbers on a team that wasn't trying to win, as other young players do. I give Thibs credit for his development.

I was very much against the pick last year but not only does Obi have great athleticism, he also has great touch around the rim. He passes the eye test as a guy who can capitalize at the rim and convert his chances. He can get easy baskets. Julius and RJ are both bad finishers around the rim. It holds our offense back in terms of efficiency.

I personally don't consider Randle untouchable for whatever it's worth. This front office probably does however.

I just think Obi's actual value exceeds his perceived value based on the upside that he flashed in limited minutes. I don't think he's another Kevin Knox or Frank Ntilikina.

Obi is going to be stuck behind Randle for a Long time, we all should know this. Its better to cash in now on him. I personally see nothing about Toppin that is not replaceable easily. Plenty of young Bigs who are athletic, and can finish but have limited offense. So in essence we are trying to hold on to bench player, for a starting player. Makes no sense.

[Knicksfan1992]

Sexton is probably worth trading Obi for but Obi's athleticism and ability to get easy baskets at the rim is truly intriguing.

Think of how easily Giannis - not that Obi is anywhere near that level of talent or athleticism - can finish at the rim and get easy baskets for his team. It just raises his team's overall efficiency.

Randle and RJ have to labor to get their points. That's why their efficiency is below-average. And that's why I'm not sure we can keep both of them.

Obi has flashed the potential of a guy who can score efficiently at the rim. His athleticism is a breath of fresh air.

If thats all you talking about he has, you can find that with Isiah Jackson from Kentucky. Replacing Obis Strengths is one of the easiest things to do.

Shoot You can get Richaun Holmes who is a FA this offseason, and he will provide more than what Obi does.

I think Obi was being developed the right way in year 1, and found himself stuck behind Randle. There's no doubt in my mind he could've put up numbers on a team that wasn't trying to win, as other young players do. I give Thibs credit for his development.

I was very much against the pick last year but not only does Obi have great athleticism, he also has great touch around the rim. He passes the eye test as a guy who can capitalize at the rim and convert his chances. He can get easy baskets. Julius and RJ are both bad finishers around the rim. It holds our offense back in terms of efficiency.

I personally don't consider Randle untouchable for whatever it's worth. This front office probably does however.

I just think Obi's actual value exceeds his perceived value based on the upside that he flashed in limited minutes. I don't think he's another Kevin Knox or Frank Ntilikina.

Said it earlier in the thread but last 15 games/playoff Obi became a big who could get hustle/cutting points because he's finishes everything, hit spot up 3s and a guy who you didn't have to really hide on D anymore.

I was high on him pre draft because I loved his passing instincts and his ability to finish at an elite level. Love betting on guys who think the game well and have good athletic traits to go with it.

Obi seems like a kid that once he catches up to the speed of the game then he's going to be a useful player even if he's not a star. I also like that he was one of the few guys on the team who raised their game in the playoffs.

[Knicksfan1992]

Sexton is probably worth trading Obi for but Obi's athleticism and ability to get easy baskets at the rim is truly intriguing.

Think of how easily Giannis - not that Obi is anywhere near that level of talent or athleticism - can finish at the rim and get easy baskets for his team. It just raises his team's overall efficiency.

Randle and RJ have to labor to get their points. That's why their efficiency is below-average. And that's why I'm not sure we can keep both of them.

Obi has flashed the potential of a guy who can score efficiently at the rim. His athleticism is a breath of fresh air.

If thats all you talking about he has, you can find that with Isiah Jackson from Kentucky. Replacing Obis Strengths is one of the easiest things to do.

Shoot You can get Richaun Holmes who is a FA this offseason, and he will provide more than what Obi does.

I think Obi was being developed the right way in year 1, and found himself stuck behind Randle. There's no doubt in my mind he could've put up numbers on a team that wasn't trying to win, as other young players do. I give Thibs credit for his development.

I was very much against the pick last year but not only does Obi have great athleticism, he also has great touch around the rim. He passes the eye test as a guy who can capitalize at the rim and convert his chances. He can get easy baskets. Julius and RJ are both bad finishers around the rim. It holds our offense back in terms of efficiency.

I personally don't consider Randle untouchable for whatever it's worth. This front office probably does however.

I just think Obi's actual value exceeds his perceived value based on the upside that he flashed in limited minutes. I don't think he's another Kevin Knox or Frank Ntilikina.

Said it earlier in the thread but last 15 games/playoff Obi became a big who could get hustle/cutting points because he's finishes everything, hit spot up 3s and a guy who you didn't have to really hide on D anymore.

I was high on him pre draft because I loved his passing instincts and his ability to finish at an elite level. Love betting on guys who think the game well and have good athletic traits to go with it.

Obi seems like a kid that once he catches up to the speed of the game then he's going to be a useful player even if he's not a star. I also like that he was one of the few guys on the team who raised their game in the playoffs.

[Chanel Bomber]

If thats all you talking about he has, you can find that with Isiah Jackson from Kentucky. Replacing Obis Strengths is one of the easiest things to do.

Shoot You can get Richaun Holmes who is a FA this offseason, and he will provide more than what Obi does.

I think Obi was being developed the right way in year 1, and found himself stuck behind Randle. There's no doubt in my mind he could've put up numbers on a team that wasn't trying to win, as other young players do. I give Thibs credit for his development.

I was very much against the pick last year but not only does Obi have great athleticism, he also has great touch around the rim. He passes the eye test as a guy who can capitalize at the rim and convert his chances. He can get easy baskets. Julius and RJ are both bad finishers around the rim. It holds our offense back in terms of efficiency.

I personally don't consider Randle untouchable for whatever it's worth. This front office probably does however.

I just think Obi's actual value exceeds his perceived value based on the upside that he flashed in limited minutes. I don't think he's another Kevin Knox or Frank Ntilikina.

Obi is going to be stuck behind Randle for a Long time, we all should know this. Its better to cash in now on him. I personally see nothing about Toppin that is not replaceable easily. Plenty of young Bigs who are athletic, and can finish but have limited offense. So in essence we are trying to hold on to bench player, for a starting player. Makes no sense.

Obi's clearly a bench player now. Who he'll be in two years is up for debate.

[Knicksfan1992]

Sexton is probably worth trading Obi for but Obi's athleticism and ability to get easy baskets at the rim is truly intriguing.

Think of how easily Giannis - not that Obi is anywhere near that level of talent or athleticism - can finish at the rim and get easy baskets for his team. It just raises his team's overall efficiency.

Randle and RJ have to labor to get their points. That's why their efficiency is below-average. And that's why I'm not sure we can keep both of them.

Obi has flashed the potential of a guy who can score efficiently at the rim. His athleticism is a breath of fresh air.

If thats all you talking about he has, you can find that with Isiah Jackson from Kentucky. Replacing Obis Strengths is one of the easiest things to do.

Shoot You can get Richaun Holmes who is a FA this offseason, and he will provide more than what Obi does.

I think Obi was being developed the right way in year 1, and found himself stuck behind Randle. There's no doubt in my mind he could've put up numbers on a team that wasn't trying to win, as other young players do. I give Thibs credit for his development.

I was very much against the pick last year but not only does Obi have great athleticism, he also has great touch around the rim. He passes the eye test as a guy who can capitalize at the rim and convert his chances. He can get easy baskets. Julius and RJ are both bad finishers around the rim. It holds our offense back in terms of efficiency.

I personally don't consider Randle untouchable for whatever it's worth. This front office probably does however.

I just think Obi's actual value exceeds his perceived value based on the upside that he flashed in limited minutes. I don't think he's another Kevin Knox or Frank Ntilikina.

Said it earlier in the thread but last 15 games/playoff Obi became a big who could get hustle/cutting points because he's finishes everything, hit spot up 3s and a guy who you didn't have to really hide on D anymore.

I was high on him pre draft because I loved his passing instincts and his ability to finish at an elite level. Love betting on guys who think the game well and have good athletic traits to go with it.

Obi seems like a kid that once he catches up to the speed of the game then he's going to be a useful player even if he's not a star. I also like that he was one of the few guys on the team who raised their game in the playoffs.

[GONYK]

If thats all you talking about he has, you can find that with Isiah Jackson from Kentucky. Replacing Obis Strengths is one of the easiest things to do.

Shoot You can get Richaun Holmes who is a FA this offseason, and he will provide more than what Obi does.

I think Obi was being developed the right way in year 1, and found himself stuck behind Randle. There's no doubt in my mind he could've put up numbers on a team that wasn't trying to win, as other young players do. I give Thibs credit for his development.

I was very much against the pick last year but not only does Obi have great athleticism, he also has great touch around the rim. He passes the eye test as a guy who can capitalize at the rim and convert his chances. He can get easy baskets. Julius and RJ are both bad finishers around the rim. It holds our offense back in terms of efficiency.

I personally don't consider Randle untouchable for whatever it's worth. This front office probably does however.

I just think Obi's actual value exceeds his perceived value based on the upside that he flashed in limited minutes. I don't think he's another Kevin Knox or Frank Ntilikina.

Said it earlier in the thread but last 15 games/playoff Obi became a big who could get hustle/cutting points because he's finishes everything, hit spot up 3s and a guy who you didn't have to really hide on D anymore.

I was high on him pre draft because I loved his passing instincts and his ability to finish at an elite level. Love betting on guys who think the game well and have good athletic traits to go with it.

Obi seems like a kid that once he catches up to the speed of the game then he's going to be a useful player even if he's not a star. I also like that he was one of the few guys on the team who raised their game in the playoffs.

I think this is the big one.

Every player we've drafted has the tools. What's held them back is the mental makeup.

Obi struggled because the game was too fast for him initially. Once he plugged in though, he knew how to execute.

[The Lamma]

Still think of this when I see Sextons hair

[NYK-Mentality85]

No thanks to Sexton. His Defense is absolutely horrible and 10x worse than Duncan Robinson and just as bad on Defense as Damian Lillard (I can post all the advanced statistics too).

Lonzo Ball is the defensive minded and pass 1st PG we need.

Watch on YouTube

His Defense is embarrassing.

He's also a selfish player who's supposedly disliked by his own teammates and would be a disaster for both R.J. Barrett and especially Julius Randle.

Watch on YouTube

[cgmw]

If thats all you talking about he has, you can find that with Isiah Jackson from Kentucky. Replacing Obis Strengths is one of the easiest things to do.

Shoot You can get Richaun Holmes who is a FA this offseason, and he will provide more than what Obi does.

I think Obi was being developed the right way in year 1, and found himself stuck behind Randle. There's no doubt in my mind he could've put up numbers on a team that wasn't trying to win, as other young players do. I give Thibs credit for his development.

I was very much against the pick last year but not only does Obi have great athleticism, he also has great touch around the rim. He passes the eye test as a guy who can capitalize at the rim and convert his chances. He can get easy baskets. Julius and RJ are both bad finishers around the rim. It holds our offense back in terms of efficiency.

I personally don't consider Randle untouchable for whatever it's worth. This front office probably does however.

I just think Obi's actual value exceeds his perceived value based on the upside that he flashed in limited minutes. I don't think he's another Kevin Knox or Frank Ntilikina.

Said it earlier in the thread but last 15 games/playoff Obi became a big who could get hustle/cutting points because he's finishes everything, hit spot up 3s and a guy who you didn't have to really hide on D anymore.

I was high on him pre draft because I loved his passing instincts and his ability to finish at an elite level. Love betting on guys who think the game well and have good athletic traits to go with it.

Obi seems like a kid that once he catches up to the speed of the game then he's going to be a useful player even if he's not a star. I also like that he was one of the few guys on the team who raised their game in the playoffs.

Obi could be the next coming of Amare and it wouldn’t matter because A) we’re committed to Randle, and B) this is still a guard’s league.

The part fans consistently miss, albeit justifiably, is the replacement cost of NOT grabbing Sexton if he’s available. Our executives need to gauge the market and make an aggressive choice to secure talent at the one, and it’s *a lot* harder to find a star PG than PF.

If you’re against Sexton, fine. But who exactly do you think is coming to play lead guard for the NY Knicks?

[TheGreenArrow]

Read on Twitter

“ A source confirms that Sexton is among the players on the Knicks’ radar in the offseason. The Athletic reported the Knicks are the most aggressive suitor for Sexton. On Tuesday night, a source with knowledge of the dynamic said it was difficult to characterize which suitor was most aggressive in pursuing Sexton due to the nature of trade conversations leading up to the draft. But the source said New York had "legitimate" interest in dealing for Sexton.

“ Also worth noting: One team doing its homework on a possible Sexton trade believed Cleveland would like to get a veteran who can help the club win in return for the 22-year-old guard.

The Knicks can send young players and picks to the Cavs, but they don’t have a veteran on a multi-year contract for Cleveland.


Interesting!!!!!!!!!!!

[Trademarkk]

Still think of this when I see Sextons hair

IQ/Randle approve

[Trademarkk]

No thanks to Sexton. His Defense is absolutely horrible and 10x worse than Duncan Robinson and just as bad on Defense as Damian Lillard (I can post all the advanced statistics too).

Lonzo Ball is the defensive minded and pass 1st PG we need.

Watch on YouTube

His Defense is embarrassing.

He's also a selfish player who's supposedly disliked by his own teammates and would be a disaster for both R.J. Barrett and especially Julius Randle.

Watch on YouTube

KAT and Wiggins also disliked Butler when he was with Minny. Seems fitting that Sexton is interested in teaming up with someone with the same mentality as him in Butler.

[Capn'O]

Obi will be solid. Whether that's as a starter or backup probably depends on the team. I like him. I'll be rooting for him wherever he goes. But you need to give to get. I wouldn't even need to think about including him in this deal.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Isnt Obi like 30? He counts as a vet, right?

[Juco24]

No thanks to Sexton. His Defense is absolutely horrible and 10x worse than Duncan Robinson and just as bad on Defense as Damian Lillard (I can post all the advanced statistics too).

Lonzo Ball is the defensive minded and pass 1st PG we need.

Watch on YouTube

His Defense is embarrassing.

He's also a selfish player who's supposedly disliked by his own teammates and would be a disaster for both R.J. Barrett and especially Julius Randle.

Watch on YouTube

Agreed

[-YogiBiz-]

No thanks to Sexton. His Defense is absolutely horrible and 10x worse than Duncan Robinson and just as bad on Defense as Damian Lillard (I can post all the advanced statistics too).

Lonzo Ball is the defensive minded and pass 1st PG we need.

Watch on YouTube

His Defense is embarrassing.

He's also a selfish player who's supposedly disliked by his own teammates and would be a disaster for both R.J. Barrett and especially Julius Randle.

Watch on YouTube

ugh it's the kill a thread guy.

[DOT]

New NBNF show: Fast Break, where we discuss Knicks rumors

Just did one last night on our thoughts on Sexton

Watch on YouTube

[thebuzzardman]

Sexton is probably worth trading Obi for but Obi's athleticism and ability to get easy baskets at the rim is truly intriguing.

Think of how easily Giannis - not that Obi is anywhere near that level of talent or athleticism - can finish at the rim and get easy baskets for his team. It just raises his team's overall efficiency.

Randle and RJ have to labor to get their points. That's why their efficiency is below-average. And that's why I'm not sure we can keep both of them.

Obi has flashed the potential of a guy who can score efficiently at the rim. His athleticism is a breath of fresh air.

If thats all you talking about he has, you can find that with Isiah Jackson who is only 19 from Kentucky, who blows him away in size and athletic ability. Replacing Obis Strengths is one of the easiest things to do.

Watch on YouTube

Shoot, You can get Richaun Holmes who is a FA this offseason, and he will provide more than what Obi does.

Here's another player who could provide what Obi does:

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