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Re: Around the NBA - New Season, New Thread 

Post#1281 » by rajajackal » Sun Nov 3, 2024 5:13 pm

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If no one’s punched you in the face you’re really missing out on important life event :lol: explaining what drives a player is important information, even if it’s in an article that critical about him. Like I said in the last post, I would have found in endearing if this became common knowledge some other way and not after an assault. It wasn’t an attack on his family but the standard that Embiid has set for himself. Embiid’s inability to stay in shape or be healthy is a major issue and it’s holding him back from being truly great. It sounds like another reporter in the locker room said the guy that wrote this article apologized when they were yelling at each and Embiid still attacked him.




I grew up boxing, I don't need to get punched in the face for the things I say, it's happened enough recreationally. Other reporters are saying Hayes was wrong, you just don't touch on family, it's not that difficult to avoid. Embiid can be wrong, but you can't dictate how someone reacts to mentioning your dead brothers name and at the end of the day it was just a shove, Hayes will live. The real failure here is that the Sixers allowed him to be in the same room with Embiid, that is organizational stupidity.

Im lost how there's Hayes sympathizers here :crazy: If I was in Embiid's shoes I would've literally punched him in the face. Anyone mentioning a dead family member to write a hit piece is getting knocked out.
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Post#1282 » by Deeeez Knicks » Sun Nov 3, 2024 5:39 pm

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Post#1285 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Nov 3, 2024 7:07 pm

According to Marc Stein, rival teams thinks that we may have pushed for KAT to use in a Giannis offer.
Specific teams that are hoping for Antetokounmpo to get antsy about his present circumstances?

A credible list would likely start with four teams.

Golden State and Miami were well-known to be in a serious state of readiness/anticipation to try to pursue Antetokounmpo before he signed his first extension in December 2020. Rest assured that their respective interest has not dimmed.

Then there is New York ... home to both the Nets and the Knicks.

The former, of course, have just started completely over in the wake of Kevin Durant/Kyrie Irving/James Harden implosion. They have nothing close to a franchise player on the current roster.

The Knicks, meanwhile, were mentioned more often in recent months than the Heat or Warriors as a potential down-the-road trade suitor for Antetokounmpo … albeit before their late-September acquisition of Karl-Anthony Towns from Minnesota. I've heard more than one rival team since the trade, mind you, wonder aloud about whether having a player of Towns' caliber on the roster for a potential future Antetokounmpo offer was among the Knicks' motivations for giving in on their long-held reluctance to include Donte DiVincenzo in trade talks with the Timberwolves and push for that deal's completion when they did on top of New York's obvious need for a frontline center.
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Post#1286 » by SelbyCobra » Sun Nov 3, 2024 7:25 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:According to Marc Stein, rival teams thinks that we may have pushed for KAT to use in a Giannis offer.
Specific teams that are hoping for Antetokounmpo to get antsy about his present circumstances?

A credible list would likely start with four teams.

Golden State and Miami were well-known to be in a serious state of readiness/anticipation to try to pursue Antetokounmpo before he signed his first extension in December 2020. Rest assured that their respective interest has not dimmed.

Then there is New York ... home to both the Nets and the Knicks.

The former, of course, have just started completely over in the wake of Kevin Durant/Kyrie Irving/James Harden implosion. They have nothing close to a franchise player on the current roster.

The Knicks, meanwhile, were mentioned more often in recent months than the Heat or Warriors as a potential down-the-road trade suitor for Antetokounmpo … albeit before their late-September acquisition of Karl-Anthony Towns from Minnesota. I've heard more than one rival team since the trade, mind you, wonder aloud about whether having a player of Towns' caliber on the roster for a potential future Antetokounmpo offer was among the Knicks' motivations for giving in on their long-held reluctance to include Donte DiVincenzo in trade talks with the Timberwolves and push for that deal's completion when they did on top of New York's obvious need for a frontline center.


Interesting. Giannis is obviously a monster but I'd be dubious about that as an intention considering Leon's connection to KAT, and KAT being a really good fit for the modern high volume 3 point offense. This front office has been tremendous about creating and converting value, so I'm just enjoying eating good off their cooking - whether it's the menu they put together today, or any changes in the future.

I love that we're discussing whether it's possible and/or the right move to pursue a 2 time MVP from the position of already being in the contender conversation. God damn, how far we've come.
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Post#1287 » by JBreezeNY » Sun Nov 3, 2024 7:29 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:According to Marc Stein, rival teams thinks that we may have pushed for KAT to use in a Giannis offer.
Specific teams that are hoping for Antetokounmpo to get antsy about his present circumstances?

A credible list would likely start with four teams.

Golden State and Miami were well-known to be in a serious state of readiness/anticipation to try to pursue Antetokounmpo before he signed his first extension in December 2020. Rest assured that their respective interest has not dimmed.

Then there is New York ... home to both the Nets and the Knicks.

The former, of course, have just started completely over in the wake of Kevin Durant/Kyrie Irving/James Harden implosion. They have nothing close to a franchise player on the current roster.

The Knicks, meanwhile, were mentioned more often in recent months than the Heat or Warriors as a potential down-the-road trade suitor for Antetokounmpo … albeit before their late-September acquisition of Karl-Anthony Towns from Minnesota. I've heard more than one rival team since the trade, mind you, wonder aloud about whether having a player of Towns' caliber on the roster for a potential future Antetokounmpo offer was among the Knicks' motivations for giving in on their long-held reluctance to include Donte DiVincenzo in trade talks with the Timberwolves and push for that deal's completion when they did on top of New York's obvious need for a frontline center.

Nah.

From what I’ve seen about him over the years, he’s LeBron lite when it comes to power. We JUST started building some sort of structure and a culture and we gonna give that away to be at the mercy of Giannis? Even with how great he is, nah, keep it pushing.
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Post#1288 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Nov 3, 2024 7:37 pm

Giannis and Brunson would be the best duo in the East by far. You have to take that chance if it's available.
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Post#1289 » by SelbyCobra » Sun Nov 3, 2024 7:54 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Giannis and Brunson would be the best duo in the East by far. You have to take that chance if it's available.


That's indisputable. I think the question about the deal is how you fill in around them with the now needed shooting pieces, considering your already leveraged to the hilt.

What's the hypothetical deal here? KAT and what?
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Post#1290 » by ScienceOfLosing » Sun Nov 3, 2024 8:01 pm

SelbyCobra wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:According to Marc Stein, rival teams thinks that we may have pushed for KAT to use in a Giannis offer.
Specific teams that are hoping for Antetokounmpo to get antsy about his present circumstances?

A credible list would likely start with four teams.

Golden State and Miami were well-known to be in a serious state of readiness/anticipation to try to pursue Antetokounmpo before he signed his first extension in December 2020. Rest assured that their respective interest has not dimmed.

Then there is New York ... home to both the Nets and the Knicks.

The former, of course, have just started completely over in the wake of Kevin Durant/Kyrie Irving/James Harden implosion. They have nothing close to a franchise player on the current roster.

The Knicks, meanwhile, were mentioned more often in recent months than the Heat or Warriors as a potential down-the-road trade suitor for Antetokounmpo … albeit before their late-September acquisition of Karl-Anthony Towns from Minnesota. I've heard more than one rival team since the trade, mind you, wonder aloud about whether having a player of Towns' caliber on the roster for a potential future Antetokounmpo offer was among the Knicks' motivations for giving in on their long-held reluctance to include Donte DiVincenzo in trade talks with the Timberwolves and push for that deal's completion when they did on top of New York's obvious need for a frontline center.


Interesting. Giannis is obviously a monster but I'd be dubious about that as an intention considering Leon's connection to KAT, and KAT being a really good fit for the modern high volume 3 point offense. This front office has been tremendous about creating and converting value, so I'm just enjoying eating good off their cooking - whether it's the menu they put together today, or any changes in the future.

I love that we're discussing whether it's possible and/or the right move to pursue a 2 time MVP from the position of already being in the contender conversation. God damn, how far we've come.


I wondered about using KAT in an offer for Giannis but do we really want to trade for a guy who relies on athleticism and is 29? I think between now and 31, he might slow down and that bodes bad for his game.
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Post#1291 » by spree2kawhi » Sun Nov 3, 2024 8:07 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:According to Marc Stein, rival teams thinks that we may have pushed for KAT to use in a Giannis offer.
Specific teams that are hoping for Antetokounmpo to get antsy about his present circumstances?

A credible list would likely start with four teams.

Golden State and Miami were well-known to be in a serious state of readiness/anticipation to try to pursue Antetokounmpo before he signed his first extension in December 2020. Rest assured that their respective interest has not dimmed.

Then there is New York ... home to both the Nets and the Knicks.

The former, of course, have just started completely over in the wake of Kevin Durant/Kyrie Irving/James Harden implosion. They have nothing close to a franchise player on the current roster.

The Knicks, meanwhile, were mentioned more often in recent months than the Heat or Warriors as a potential down-the-road trade suitor for Antetokounmpo … albeit before their late-September acquisition of Karl-Anthony Towns from Minnesota. I've heard more than one rival team since the trade, mind you, wonder aloud about whether having a player of Towns' caliber on the roster for a potential future Antetokounmpo offer was among the Knicks' motivations for giving in on their long-held reluctance to include Donte DiVincenzo in trade talks with the Timberwolves and push for that deal's completion when they did on top of New York's obvious need for a frontline center.

Nah.

From what I’ve seen about him over the years, he’s LeBron lite when it comes to power. We JUST started building some sort of structure and a culture and we gonna give that away to be at the mercy of Giannis? Even with how great he is, nah, keep it pushing.

I think I would agree. Towns is a great get, probably great enough. We couldn’t keep waiting forever, paying all the blinds, folding our hands for the possibility of maybe drawing Giannis one day. We’re good now.
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Post#1292 » by robillionaire » Sun Nov 3, 2024 8:21 pm

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I grew up boxing, I don't need to get punched in the face for the things I say, it's happened enough recreationally. Other reporters are saying Hayes was wrong, you just don't touch on family, it's not that difficult to avoid. Embiid can be wrong, but you can't dictate how someone reacts to mentioning your dead brothers name and at the end of the day it was just a shove, Hayes will live. The real failure here is that the Sixers allowed him to be in the same room with Embiid, that is organizational stupidity.

Im lost how there's Hayes sympathizers here :crazy: If I was in Embiid's shoes I would've literally punched him in the face. Anyone mentioning a dead family member to write a hit piece is getting knocked out.
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just to be clear i'm not sympathizing with the reporter and i'd do the same thing in that position i'm just hating on joel embiid because i hate joel embiid


Simple as that

If it was towns and a reporter said something about his mom I’m support towns punching him because I like towns. But I’m still in my F Embiid era so I’m siding with the reporter.
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Post#1293 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Nov 3, 2024 8:26 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Giannis and Brunson would be the best duo in the East by far. You have to take that chance if it's available.


That's indisputable. I think the question about the deal is how you fill in around them with the now needed shooting pieces, considering your already leveraged to the hilt.

What's the hypothetical deal here? KAT and what?

Im gonna assume its gonna be some combination of KAT, Deuce, Hart and I guess the young players we drafted.
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Post#1294 » by robillionaire » Sun Nov 3, 2024 8:29 pm

Towns is better, he can shoot a basketball and will continue to be able to shoot a basketball deep into his 30s. Hard pass.
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Post#1295 » by Guano » Sun Nov 3, 2024 8:45 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Im lost how there's Hayes sympathizers here :crazy: If I was in Embiid's shoes I would've literally punched him in the face. Anyone mentioning a dead family member to write a hit piece is getting knocked out.
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just to be clear i'm not sympathizing with the reporter and i'd do the same thing in that position i'm just hating on joel embiid because i hate joel embiid


Simple as that

If it was towns and a reporter said something about his mom I’m support towns punching him because I like towns. But I’m still in my F Embiid era so I’m siding with the reporter.


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Post#1296 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Nov 3, 2024 8:45 pm

robillionaire wrote:Towns is better, he can shoot a basketball and will continue to be able to shoot a basketball deep into his 30s. Hard pass.

If Giannis went to Kentucky you would be all for the trade :lol:
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Post#1297 » by Guano » Sun Nov 3, 2024 8:47 pm

Cant believe we're letting this giannis news distract us from deeeez posting stats comparing Luka to RJ.
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Post#1298 » by Guano » Sun Nov 3, 2024 8:48 pm

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robillionaire wrote:Towns is better, he can shoot a basketball and will continue to be able to shoot a basketball deep into his 30s. Hard pass.

If Giannis went to Kentucky you would be all for the trade :lol:


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Post#1299 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Nov 3, 2024 8:48 pm



Man there's a lotta hoe sh*t going on in the league early on :lol:
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Post#1300 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Nov 3, 2024 8:51 pm

robillionaire wrote:Towns is better, he can shoot a basketball and will continue to be able to shoot a basketball deep into his 30s. Hard pass.


I don't think Towns is a better player than Giannis, but Towns is a better fit to play with Brunson and that's what matters.

Brunson having open lanes to attack 1 v 1 is critical for this teams success
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