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Post #1301 » by **DOT** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 3:16 am

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Even if we tanked we would have just picked Duarte with our standard 8 pick. That may have been more painful

If it were Pills in charge, it'd have been Ziaire with the 8th pick

Don't know if that's better or worse, though.

Richard4444 · Post #1302 » by **Richard4444** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 3:17 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Y’all already in panic mode

A Schroder / Fournier backcourt is a 5 alarm fire.

It's an improvement over Payton/Bullock duo.

Bob Ross · Post #1303 » by **Bob Ross** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 3:20 am

NBA def won't do anything. Silver's NBA did nothing about the Clippers and Nets cap circumvention. It's the wild west now

Richard4444 · Post #1304 » by **Richard4444** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 3:21 am

El Poochio wrote:
HerSports85 wrote:Gary Trent Jr @ 17–18 mil Is intriguing

Toronto is losing Lowry they are definitely focusing on youth now, 18 mil is nothing

It looks like Toronto wants KP. That's a topic in General Board.

They will get Dragic from the Heat and try to exchange him for KP!!

Knicks365247 · Post #1305 » by **Knicks365247** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 3:21 am

1. Do not want Fournier.
2. No **** way do I want Schroeder, dude is a loser and a selfish idiot.
3. ?????
4. Profit

Post #1306 » by **mpharris36** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 3:23 am

Richard4444 wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Y’all already in panic mode

A Schroder / Fournier backcourt is a 5 alarm fire.

It's an improvement over Payton/Bullock duo.

Just throwing out a McBride/Grimes duo would be an improvement over Payton/Bullock.

I don't think anyone is arguing it wouldn't be an improvement. Are you willing to lock that duo up for 40 MM a season for the foreseeable future?

thebuzzardman · Post #1307 » by **thebuzzardman** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 3:23 am

god shammgod wrote:it's what you all deserve to be honest. i hope the other signing is kelly oubre.

What's hilarious is that both are better than RJ.

Post #1308 » by **mpharris36** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 3:25 am

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Richard4444 · Post #1309 » by **Richard4444** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 3:29 am

mpharris36 wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:

A Schroder / Fournier backcourt is a 5 alarm fire.

It's an improvement over Payton/Bullock duo.

Just throwing out a McBride/Grimes duo would be an improvement over Payton/Bullock.

I don't think anyone is arguing it wouldn't be an improvement. Are you willing to lock that duo up for 40 MM a season for the foreseeable future?

The strategy of keeping cap space open and get one-year deals is not working. We eventually need to cap out and cumulate contracts and better players.

I think Fournier OK considering the market. I dont like Dennis very much after his last season.

We can use these contracts as fillers to get a real star. They should not be hard to move. Youngish players.

Post #1310 » by **mpharris36** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 3:31 am

Richard4444 wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
It's an improvement over Payton/Bullock duo.

Just throwing out a McBride/Grimes duo would be an improvement over Payton/Bullock.

I don't think anyone is arguing it wouldn't be an improvement. Are you willing to lock that duo up for 40 MM a season for the foreseeable future?

The strategy of keeping cap space open and get one-year deals is not working. We eventually need to cap out and cumulate contracts and better players.

I think Fournier OK considering the market. I dont like Dennis very much after his last season.

We can use these contracts as fillers to get a real star. They should not be hard to move. Youngish players.

I disagree there. 20 MM for role players you most likely have to attach draft capital to move them.

NotDikembeSayNo · Post #1311 » by **NotDikembeSayNo** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 3:33 am

mpharris36 wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Just throwing out a McBride/Grimes duo would be an improvement over Payton/Bullock.

I don't think anyone is arguing it wouldn't be an improvement. Are you willing to lock that duo up for 40 MM a season for the foreseeable future?

The strategy of keeping cap space open and get one-year deals is not working. We eventually need to cap out and cumulate contracts and better players.

I think Fournier OK considering the market. I dont like Dennis very much after his last season.

We can use these contracts as fillers to get a real star. They should not be hard to move. Youngish players.

I disagree there. 20 MM for role players you most likely have to attach draft capital to move them.

A 20 mil expiring deal is not hard to move at all in today’s day and age. Not to mention that’s a nice piece to have midseason if a star shakes loose. Also not to mention… Fournier is good.

aq_ua · Post #1312 » by **aq_ua** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 3:36 am

NotDikembeSayNo wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
The strategy of keeping cap space open and get one-year deals is not working. We eventually need to cap out and cumulate contracts and better players.

I think Fournier OK considering the market. I dont like Dennis very much after his last season.

We can use these contracts as fillers to get a real star. They should not be hard to move. Youngish players.

I disagree there. 20 MM for role players you most likely have to attach draft capital to move them.

A 20 mil expiring deal is not hard to move at all in today’s day and age. Not to mention that’s a nice piece to have midseason if a star shakes loose. Also not to mention… Fournier is good.

Marcus Morris is a good and recent example of this, for sure.

Jose7 · Post #1313 » by **Jose7** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 3:36 am

Y'all tryna talk yourself into Fournier. Y'all are sick individuals

Post #1314 » by **mpharris36** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 3:38 am

NotDikembeSayNo wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
The strategy of keeping cap space open and get one-year deals is not working. We eventually need to cap out and cumulate contracts and better players.

I think Fournier OK considering the market. I dont like Dennis very much after his last season.

We can use these contracts as fillers to get a real star. They should not be hard to move. Youngish players.

I disagree there. 20 MM for role players you most likely have to attach draft capital to move them.

A 20 mil expiring deal is not hard to move at all in today’s day and age. Not to mention that’s a nice piece to have midseason if a star shakes loose. Also not to mention… Fournier is good.

who is saying either is signing one year deals.

Both want 4 year deals by the reports.

Schroder turned down 4/84...to sign with the knicks 1/20? come on now

NotDikembeSayNo · Post #1315 » by **NotDikembeSayNo** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 3:39 am

Jose7 wrote:Y'all tryna talk yourself into Fournier. Y'all are sick individuals

It’s not really that hard for a fan of a team that desperately needs shooters to talk themselves into a good reliable shooter while still having more than half their cap space after signing him.

NotDikembeSayNo · Post #1316 » by **NotDikembeSayNo** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 3:40 am

mpharris36 wrote:
NotDikembeSayNo wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
I disagree there. 20 MM for role players you most likely have to attach draft capital to move them.

A 20 mil expiring deal is not hard to move at all in today’s day and age. Not to mention that’s a nice piece to have midseason if a star shakes loose. Also not to mention… Fournier is good.

who is saying either is signing one year deals.

Both want 4 year deals by the reports.

Schroder turned down 4/84...to sign with the knicks 1/20? come on now

Funny things happen when markets dry up. I’d expect that to be the case for both those guys with those demands.

cgmw · Post #1317 » by **cgmw** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 3:40 am

Richard4444 wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
It's an improvement over Payton/Bullock duo.

Just throwing out a McBride/Grimes duo would be an improvement over Payton/Bullock.

I don't think anyone is arguing it wouldn't be an improvement. Are you willing to lock that duo up for 40 MM a season for the foreseeable future?

The strategy of keeping cap space open and get one-year deals is not working. We eventually need to cap out and cumulate contracts and better players.

I think Fournier OK considering the market. I dont like Dennis very much after his last season.

We can use these contracts as fillers to get a real star. They should not be hard to move. Youngish players.

You're also underestimating how much a high salary can F up team chemistry. The minute they pay Fournier a real salary higher than RJ it creates a hierarchical pecking order that may or may not be out of line with the actual talent levels on the court.

Paying a role player like Fournier in excess of $20m/season is a risk unless you have a well established/defined pecking order ahead of him. One of the reasons our 2020 squad was so cohesive was because only Julius was making a big boy salary. Everybody else was on fairly equal ground.

If we sign Fournier to anything longer than 2 years, then we'd better be trading for another veteran who makes more than Julius so that Fournier's salary becomes commensurate with his status in the pecking order. Otherwise you could end up with a toxic situation where he's outplayed by Grimes or RJ and it f*cks up the whole team. Because like it or not, coaches feature the guys who make big salaries, especially when management goes out on a limb to recruit them as signature acquisitions.

Adelheid · Post #1318 » by **Adelheid** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 3:41 am

Knicks team payroll is less than 50m. Need to reach salary floor. Somebody will get paid nonetheless

nykinoz · Post #1319 » by **nykinoz** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 3:41 am

I wouldn't mind a look at Markelle Fultz if Orlando make him available, they do have a PG glut now.

Post #1320 » by **mpharris36** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 3:43 am

Adelheid wrote:Knicks team payroll is less than 50m. Need to reach salary floor. Somebody will get paid nonetheless

there is no mandate to reach the salary floor. They will spend the money but I have seen this brought up multiple times you are not penalized by not hitting the salary floor the players on your roster just get distributed more money.