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GONYK wrote:
I would take Mikal over Knox, but I would take Knox over Porter.
bwgood77 wrote:Wow, kind of surprising poll results. I think I'd prefer Carter, though Porter, had he not been injured could have easily been the choice. I love Bridges too but being a 3 year guy he's supposed to already look a lot better...probably less upside left but he's got the elite 3D skills and is much safer than Porter. Carter seems like a perfect fit with KP, but maybe you're thinking of sticking with Kanter.
Guano wrote:Fourni3r forgetting he has Bob cousy handles
Woodsanity wrote:Imagine trusting a team with World B Flat on it without Lebron keeping him in check.
VirginiaKnickFan wrote:Knicks analyst’s draft wish is also indictment of their young PGs.MSG Network’s Wally Szczerbiak likes both Villanova’s Mikal Bridges and Michigan State’s Miles Bridges — but believes the Knicks’ focus in the June 21 draft should be on their need for a top-line point guard.
Szczerbiak, who doubles as a CBS college basketball analyst, told The Post he would take point guard studs Trae Young or Collin Sexton at No. 9, if on the board, over either of the Bridges, who are both small forwards.
“The point guard position in a Knicks uniform has to be solidified,” Szczerbiak said. “It’s been too long. That’s been the big-time need for this franchise. Unless you have a game plan to get Kyrie [Irving] and can solidify it that way, I think the point guard position is the most important position.”
That’s hardly a vote of confidence for the young Knicks trio of Frank Ntilikina, Trey Burke and Emmanuel Mudiay.
“They have a lot of really good point guards, but do they have an impact point guard in the NBA?” Szczerbiak said. “That’s the question. The answer to me is, it doesn’t look like it.”
https://nypost.com/2018/06/12/knicks-analysts-draft-wish-is-also-indictment-of-their-young-pgs/
Young and Sexton is an upgrade over Burke, but I'm beginning to think the Knicks might have a serious shot at Kyrie Irving next season. The Knicks chances of getting Kyrie is slim because I think the Celtics are going to the NBA finals next season, which could give them more serious shot at signing Kyrie. My advice to the Knicks is to draft Trey Young if he is available at the 9th spot. And if Trey is drafted before the 9th pick, then draft Lonnie (Donovan Mitchell) Walker or Makal Bridges. Sexton is also an option, but he struggles with NBA height Like Burke. 
BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:Schofield withdrew.
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TruthBeTold wrote:VirginiaKnickFan wrote:Knicks analyst’s draft wish is also indictment of their young PGs.MSG Network’s Wally Szczerbiak likes both Villanova’s Mikal Bridges and Michigan State’s Miles Bridges — but believes the Knicks’ focus in the June 21 draft should be on their need for a top-line point guard.
Szczerbiak, who doubles as a CBS college basketball analyst, told The Post he would take point guard studs Trae Young or Collin Sexton at No. 9, if on the board, over either of the Bridges, who are both small forwards.
“The point guard position in a Knicks uniform has to be solidified,” Szczerbiak said. “It’s been too long. That’s been the big-time need for this franchise. Unless you have a game plan to get Kyrie [Irving] and can solidify it that way, I think the point guard position is the most important position.”
That’s hardly a vote of confidence for the young Knicks trio of Frank Ntilikina, Trey Burke and Emmanuel Mudiay.
“They have a lot of really good point guards, but do they have an impact point guard in the NBA?” Szczerbiak said. “That’s the question. The answer to me is, it doesn’t look like it.”
https://nypost.com/2018/06/12/knicks-analysts-draft-wish-is-also-indictment-of-their-young-pgs/
The Knicks point guard situation:
Trey Burke:
Trey struggles with height in the paint and relies on long 2-pointers and 3-pointers to get majority of his points instead of trying to get to the rim to score more often, which could help him get to the foul line more. He is a low energy point guard, but a very good shooter. He lacks explosiveness and he is not very athletic. Despite his flaws, he is still the Knicks best point guard and the Knicks should not upgrade unless an all-star PG or a potential all-star PG can replace him.
K-DOT wrote:BeagleBoss wrote:And you cry like a little bitch as usual. I didn't complain once about Ntilikina. It's called having a discussion and opinion on a message board. Fury, HEZI, newyorkerforever, shamgod, E-Balla and I were all having good talks. None of us got heated or offended like your weak ass. We disagree but that is allowed!! So change your panties and stop crying and reporting everyone who doesn't think he is next Antetokounmpo. Its idiots like you who ruin threads and this board!!!!!!K-DOT wrote:You're right, you didn't start it
BeagleBoss started by complaining about Frank (per usual) and saying the scouts that ranked him above Mitchell should be fired, then Fury responded to him, then he replied back.
After the third post, you replied with this:
So no, you didn't answer a question that was asked to you, you decided to jump on the "bash Frank" bandwagon much like you do in other threads
And show me where I have ever said he was anything but super raw in Europe, or that he isn't super raw right now
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I'm just letting you know you should stop right there
I get that you're frustrated, and I apologize to Hezi for getting upset at him. I got mad, and shouldn't have gotten into it with him, none of what he said was out of line. But he didn't insult me personally
HEZI wrote:K-DOT wrote:BeagleBoss wrote:And you cry like a little bitch as usual. I didn't complain once about Ntilikina. It's called having a discussion and opinion on a message board. Fury, HEZI, newyorkerforever, shamgod, E-Balla and I were all having good talks. None of us got heated or offended like your weak ass. We disagree but that is allowed!! So change your panties and stop crying and reporting everyone who doesn't think he is next Antetokounmpo. Its idiots like you who ruin threads and this board!!!!!!
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I'm just letting you know you should stop right there
I get that you're frustrated, and I apologize to Hezi for getting upset at him. I got mad, and shouldn't have gotten into it with him, none of what he said was out of line. But he didn't insult me personally
It's all good man, as long as we are talking hoops and not trading personal insults, everything will always be cool with me. I can never get tired of talking hoops no matter how much we agree or disagree on certain things. This board can be pure madness and I love every part of it. Would hate to be a mod here
J/k man
Polk377 wrote:TruthBeTold wrote:VirginiaKnickFan wrote:Knicks analyst’s draft wish is also indictment of their young PGs.
https://nypost.com/2018/06/12/knicks-analysts-draft-wish-is-also-indictment-of-their-young-pgs/
The Knicks point guard situation:
Trey Burke:
Trey struggles with height in the paint and relies on long 2-pointers and 3-pointers to get majority of his points instead of trying to get to the rim to score more often, which could help him get to the foul line more. He is a low energy point guard, but a very good shooter. He lacks explosiveness and he is not very athletic. Despite his flaws, he is still the Knicks best point guard and the Knicks should not upgrade unless an all-star PG or a potential all-star PG can replace him.
The notion that Trey struggles at the rim is just not true. Yes he only took about 16% of his shots from 0-3 feet in which is less than guys like Westbrook, Irving and Wall but he converted at nearly 73% which is the best of any PG last year. He picks and chooses his spots very well and attacks when the opportunity is there. His average distance on shots was also 15 feet which is closer than the free throw line so not necessarily a long 2. I am not saying Trey is a star or should have the PG spot locked down for years to come but his game is just different than others but not any worse.
knicksh20b wrote:Man I wonder how people will react if we get Mikal and KP is out for the season.
K-DOT wrote:HEZI wrote:K-DOT wrote:I'm just letting you know you should stop right there
I get that you're frustrated, and I apologize to Hezi for getting upset at him. I got mad, and shouldn't have gotten into it with him, none of what he said was out of line. But he didn't insult me personally
It's all good man, as long as we are talking hoops and not trading personal insults, everything will always be cool with me. I can never get tired of talking hoops no matter how much we agree or disagree on certain things. This board can be pure madness and I love every part of it. Would hate to be a mod here
J/k man
Yeah, I go overboard a bit sometimes
I gotta give you props for wanting Mitchell before anyone else last year, though. Damn shame Phil fell asleep during his workout. Maybe that's why we passed on him
It is what it is. So it was basically me just hunting for an exciting guard that would have me glued to my seat watching him rep the orange and blue every night and Mitchell just felt like he could be that guy. Frank never really did it for me, even though I could appreciate what he could bring to the table and I could see the impact he could have as far as helping a team win games and become a good player on a winning team, there was just that excitement factor with him that was always missing. That's why I never understood the hype around him but I understood that everybody has their preferences. I was like damn y'all don't want an exciting electric guard at the Garden? TruthBeTold wrote:Polk377 wrote:TruthBeTold wrote:
The Knicks point guard situation:
Trey Burke:
Trey struggles with height in the paint and relies on long 2-pointers and 3-pointers to get majority of his points instead of trying to get to the rim to score more often, which could help him get to the foul line more. He is a low energy point guard, but a very good shooter. He lacks explosiveness and he is not very athletic. Despite his flaws, he is still the Knicks best point guard and the Knicks should not upgrade unless an all-star PG or a potential all-star PG can replace him.
The notion that Trey struggles at the rim is just not true. Yes he only took about 16% of his shots from 0-3 feet in which is less than guys like Westbrook, Irving and Wall but he converted at nearly 73% which is the best of any PG last year. He picks and chooses his spots very well and attacks when the opportunity is there. His average distance on shots was also 15 feet which is closer than the free throw line so not necessarily a long 2. I am not saying Trey is a star or should have the PG spot locked down for years to come but his game is just different than others but not any worse.
I never said "Trey struggles at the rim" I never said he is a poor finisher. I said he needs to get to the rim more often to score, which is true. And part of the reason why Burke don't attack the rim more often is because he struggles against tall NBA players in the paint. Burke has admit to struggling with height in an interview after an NBA game, which limits his aggression, so of course it's wise to pick when to attack. It's also wise to attack to get a player in foul trouble. I feel if the Knicks have a chance to upgrade the position with a pontial all-star player or an all-star player, then they should do it.
E-Balla wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:some footage of porter before the injury against decent competition
thoughts:
so after watching the whole vid... he's basically what i been saying about him since last summer. his handles are mad weak and need a lot of work. i think he made literally 1 jumper off the dribble... most of the shots he took were contested as well since he doesn't know how to create much seperation.
his go to move is a pull up J because his handles are so weak he can't create anything else, and he missed every time he did that
overall: very meh
He might end up a taller Klay Thompson at best because his shot is nasty. But its tough to predict whether or not someone can shoot on THAT level or if they'll end up shooting at Steve Novak level.
Polk377 wrote:TruthBeTold wrote:Polk377 wrote:
The notion that Trey struggles at the rim is just not true. Yes he only took about 16% of his shots from 0-3 feet in which is less than guys like Westbrook, Irving and Wall but he converted at nearly 73% which is the best of any PG last year. He picks and chooses his spots very well and attacks when the opportunity is there. His average distance on shots was also 15 feet which is closer than the free throw line so not necessarily a long 2. I am not saying Trey is a star or should have the PG spot locked down for years to come but his game is just different than others but not any worse.
I never said "Trey struggles at the rim" I never said he is a poor finisher. I said he needs to get to the rim more often to score, which is true. And part of the reason why Burke don't attack the rim more often is because he struggles against tall NBA players in the paint. Burke has admit to struggling with height in an interview after an NBA game, which limits his aggression, so of course it's wise to pick when to attack. It's also wise to attack to get a player in foul trouble. I feel if the Knicks have a chance to upgrade the position with a pontial all-star player or an all-star player, then they should do it.
Why attack more if what you say is true and he is a poor finisher? A PG that recklessly attacks for the sake of it will leave the team susceptible to transition baskets. He needs to stick to what he is good at and that's pull up jumpers.
I think Kyrie next season is a real possibility as our all star caliber PG. Let's see what Trey can do in a full season in the meantime.
2010 wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:2010 wrote:
He had to guard in space against a small St. John's team and got repeatedly torched (as did Bagley). He cannot guard in space. Go back and watch some tape of that game. Trust me.
How many centers can really guard PGs/wings out past the 3 point line? It defies physics
That doesn't mean we should continue to stock up on those who can't.
K-DOT wrote:Tron Carter wrote:Fury wrote:
Lol
this my friends, we refer to as hindsight bias
But he jumps higher than Frank though, so clearly he's the better prospect
It's why Hamidou Diallo is a top 5 pick
Knicksfan20 wrote:We have to draft Mikal Bridges. You guys do realize if the 76ers draft Mikal , its over.
nykinoz wrote:Anybody else wanting Vanderbilt with our 2nd rounder? I really believe he will be something, i like his game a lot.