The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread

MadGrinch · Post #1321 » by **MadGrinch** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:23 pm

GONYK wrote:Frank's mental fortitude is what really stood out. He knew this was the biggest game of his career, and rose to the occasion.

A lot of people wrote him off after the 2nd quarter. I'm glad he bounced back.

he's done it before

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3toheadmelo · Post #1322 » by **3toheadmelo** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:26 pm

God damn

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Post #1323 » by **GONYK** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:26 pm

People were down on Frank's defense when he had a little trouble with Mills.

I'm wondering where the evaluations are now that he shut down Kemba.

shtolky · Post #1324 » by **shtolky** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:27 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
shtolky wrote:Frank is still on the team, right? What's with the conspiracy theories? I mean I know it's RealGM but still. You think Mills is actually going to say "wow, Frank looks good now, but he's a Phil guy GOTTA TRADE HIM NOW!!" That's crazy. The real issue is finding minutes for him on a team with actual depth. Good thing is he's under team control for at least two seasons and again, is only 21. Crazy to think he's still a baby when it feels like he's been on the team for years.

There are a lot of signs that he is not in their plans based on how they used him last year, how Fiz likes to play, based on the players they brought in and the trade rumors in the offseason.

That could change, but it does seem like he is/was the odd man out and all it will take is the right offer.

And he was pretty terrible last season. If he's really improved that much, why wouldn't they give him a chance? That's all I'm saying. Sure, they signed Payton, but this idea that he's promised minutes is silly. If Frank beats him out for minutes, what's Payton gonna do? Nothing. Last year is last year. I also don't buy anything to do with trade rumors, so as far as I am concerned, if he has improved, go out and earn the minutes. It's not like he didn't play last season when he was healthy and terrible.

Post #1325 » by **GONYK** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:28 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:God damn

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Most beautiful part about that is that he didn't even think. All instinct and confidence.

Post #1326 » by **GONYK** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:29 pm

shtolky wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
shtolky wrote:Frank is still on the team, right? What's with the conspiracy theories? I mean I know it's RealGM but still. You think Mills is actually going to say "wow, Frank looks good now, but he's a Phil guy GOTTA TRADE HIM NOW!!" That's crazy. The real issue is finding minutes for him on a team with actual depth. Good thing is he's under team control for at least two seasons and again, is only 21. Crazy to think he's still a baby when it feels like he's been on the team for years.

There are a lot of signs that he is not in their plans based on how they used him last year, how Fiz likes to play, based on the players they brought in and the trade rumors in the offseason.

That could change, but it does seem like he is/was the odd man out and all it will take is the right offer.

And he was pretty terrible last season. If he's really improved that much, why wouldn't they give him a chance? That's all I'm saying. Sure, they signed Payton, but this idea that he's promised minutes is silly. If Frank beats him out for minutes, what's Payton gonna do? Nothing. Last year is last year. I also don't buy anything to do with trade rumors, so as far as I am concerned, if he has improved, go out and earn the minutes. It's not like he didn't play last season when he was healthy and terrible.

If Fiz ran a meritocracy, people wouldn't be worried.

Post #1327 » by **HerSports85** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:30 pm

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A confident Frank is scary. I love it

El Poochio · Post #1328 » by **El Poochio** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:31 pm

Turkey was in the same position against US and they crumbled Frank balls of steel

3toheadmelo · Post #1329 » by **3toheadmelo** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:31 pm

GONYK wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:God damn

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Most beautiful part about that is that he didn't even think. All instinct and confidence.

Yep. If he just plays his game with no hesitation, good things happens. Also I was wrong for counting him out after the second quarter. Glad he proved me wrong.

MadGrinch · Post #1330 » by **MadGrinch** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:32 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
shtolky wrote:Frank is still on the team, right? What's with the conspiracy theories? I mean I know it's RealGM but still. You think Mills is actually going to say "wow, Frank looks good now, but he's a Phil guy GOTTA TRADE HIM NOW!!" That's crazy. The real issue is finding minutes for him on a team with actual depth. Good thing is he's under team control for at least two seasons and again, is only 21. Crazy to think he's still a baby when it feels like he's been on the team for years.

There are a lot of signs that he is not in their plans based on how they used him last year, how Fiz likes to play, based on the players they brought in and the trade rumors in the offseason.

That could change, but it does seem like he is/was the odd man out and all it will take is the right offer.

i actually thought the opposite , that he had accountability but was allowed to work himself in and out of the rotation based on his play .

that if they didn't want him they'd simply let him rot once he fell out the rotation or...

if they wanted him for trade bait they'd let him play no matter what and do everything possible to build him up.

but unlike knox he had a bunch of young guys at guard who all had accountability (except for mudiay) and would get pulled for other players for bad play or not playing the way Fizdale directed them to .

i believe he is the clear choice to start alongside barrett based of fit.

Triple C · Post #1331 » by **Triple C** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:33 pm

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spree2kawhi · Post #1332 » by **spree2kawhi** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:36 pm

I literally laughed hard at those 4th quarter shots. Serial killer mentality :lol:

Good to see. He'll be alright eventually. That might have been his breakout game.

El Poochio · Post #1333 » by **El Poochio** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:37 pm

Tough matchup for Frank next against Tyrion Lannister

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Post #1334 » by **dakomish23** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:37 pm

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They will never give him a long enough leash to meet even half his potential. They gave him DNP CDS when we were the worst team in basketball.

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Insanity with how bad we've been and especially on defense.

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This performance isn't going to change anything. They have their favorites and even spent money on mediocre guys to push him further down the depth charts.

Just trade him from this team to a team that will stomach the growing pains.

BowlRips · Post #1335 » by **BowlRips** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:41 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
shtolky wrote:Frank is still on the team, right? What's with the conspiracy theories? I mean I know it's RealGM but still. You think Mills is actually going to say "wow, Frank looks good now, but he's a Phil guy GOTTA TRADE HIM NOW!!" That's crazy. The real issue is finding minutes for him on a team with actual depth. Good thing is he's under team control for at least two seasons and again, is only 21. Crazy to think he's still a baby when it feels like he's been on the team for years.

There are a lot of signs that he is not in their plans based on how they used him last year, how Fiz likes to play, based on the players they brought in and the trade rumors in the offseason.

That could change, but it does seem like he is/was the odd man out and all it will take is the right offer.

More then alot of signs. It does not appear they have prioritized his development one bit. Granted they may have a plan in place but from an outsiders perspective you can't tell me you see one

Post #1336 » by **dakomish23** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:42 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:God damn

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And he shut his ass down.

I'll never get to see him and DSJ together, will I? :noway:

shtolky · Post #1337 » by **shtolky** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:42 pm

GONYK wrote:
shtolky wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
There are a lot of signs that he is not in their plans based on how they used him last year, how Fiz likes to play, based on the players they brought in and the trade rumors in the offseason.

That could change, but it does seem like he is/was the odd man out and all it will take is the right offer.

And he was pretty terrible last season. If he's really improved that much, why wouldn't they give him a chance? That's all I'm saying. Sure, they signed Payton, but this idea that he's promised minutes is silly. If Frank beats him out for minutes, what's Payton gonna do? Nothing. Last year is last year. I also don't buy anything to do with trade rumors, so as far as I am concerned, if he has improved, go out and earn the minutes. It's not like he didn't play last season when he was healthy and terrible.

If Fiz ran a meritocracy, people wouldn't be worried.

You know I've said repeatedly I am not going to fully judge him on last season when our roster was the worst in the league. Frank was also objectively bad last season and injured for over half of it. However, I did say last year that my only gripe about the young players not playing was regarding Frank (since I am not that high on Dotson). He should have played more and I hope he plays this season and continues to get better. I don't think one year of tanking is a large enough sample size to determine if Frank will play or not. It was a weird year.

If Frank shows up to camp and plays like he did today and still doesn't get playing time (assuming DSJ/Payton still don't both outplay him), then you have a point. I am operating under the assumption that our brass saw today's game and are officially on notice.

Post #1338 » by **K_ick_God** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:43 pm

Donovan Mitchell isn’t that good either.

Post #1339 » by **dakomish23** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:44 pm

shtolky wrote:Frank is still on the team, right? What's with the conspiracy theories? I mean I know it's RealGM but still. You think Mills is actually going to say "wow, Frank looks good now, but he's a Phil guy GOTTA TRADE HIM NOW!!" That's crazy. The real issue is finding minutes for him on a team with actual depth. Good thing is he's under team control for at least two seasons and again, is only 21. Crazy to think he's still a baby when it feels like he's been on the team for years.

Playing Jack and Mudiay over him, only to let them walk for retirement or small money, isn't a conspiracy theory.

He's not in the cards unless he goes nuclear and then Steve Compete Mills is forced to play him.

shtolky · Post #1340 » by **shtolky** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:46 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
shtolky wrote:Frank is still on the team, right? What's with the conspiracy theories? I mean I know it's RealGM but still. You think Mills is actually going to say "wow, Frank looks good now, but he's a Phil guy GOTTA TRADE HIM NOW!!" That's crazy. The real issue is finding minutes for him on a team with actual depth. Good thing is he's under team control for at least two seasons and again, is only 21. Crazy to think he's still a baby when it feels like he's been on the team for years.

Playing Jack and Mudiay over him, only to let them walk for retirement or small money, isn't a conspiracy theory.

He's not in the cards unless he goes nuclear and then Steve Compete Mills is forced to play him.

My only reference to a conspiracy theory was the fact that Mills would trade him if he improved simply because he wouldn't want a Phil guy having success on the team.

If he doesn't play this season and looks this good in camp, I agree with all of you, it would be bs.