Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Cont'd

[HopelessKnick]

If you think Leon is going to wholesale change the core of this group after reaching the ECF, you are delusional.

Yea they said the same thing about firing the coach after getting to the ECF

Btw, aren’t you in here posting deals shipping out KAT n Deuce?

Yeah, I would actually go farther---it seems Leon saw the same things that many have criticized with Thibs and he decided to replace him despite reaching the ECF. I'm speculating here but I think Leon viewed the Boston series a bit flukish and was not happy with the regular season, Pistons series and Pacers series. That's at least how I view it.

I think he is well aware that the KAT and Brunson pairing is iffy....that does not have that much to do with Thibs...both do try on defense but just aren't good there. I think if he sees an avenue to improve that, he won't hesitate. He traded DD and broke up the NOVA connection, we have rumors of a deadline Durant offer which would have included either Mikal (whom he gave up 5 picks for) or KAT or some combination. Leon has made it clear he is going for the title and nothing less will do for him. His statement after Thibs firing said it all. If Giannis becomes available and a deal centered around KAT/OG would be agreeable for the Bucks, Leon will pull the trigger. I'm close to 100% certain of that.

You would have to try to expand the deal to include Portis and /or Brook Lopez to pair Giannis with frontcourt shooting but I think that could be done. You may also follow up the trade with a Mitch for a modest 3-and-D guy.....like deals with the Lakers or clippers come in mind (for DFS or Derrick Jones jr.)....

Brunson
Mikal
DFS-type of guy
Giannis
Lopez

with Hart, Deuce + veteran minimum etc. (Horford) off the bench....I'm pretty positive you could convince a Horford, Paul etc. to join a title run...we'd essentially need 2-3 solid bench signings and that team would be instant favorites to win the east and could take down any west team..Giannis is the ideal guy to make up for all Brunson's shortcomings....Pacers common foe....some stuff is aligning there....but Giannis may be too humble to demand a trade...

[mpharris36]

the knicks don't want short contracts though...as an above 1st apron team you don't want to risk losing guys and not being able to sign them in the future...that is sort of what happened with the ihart situation.

Not exactly, you can have a short contract and still retain full bird rights, unlike with Fart.

Correct, Im not saying it's the exact same situation but there is still uncertainty because of the player wants a a salary increase with the bird rights we risk going into the 2nd apron.

See my point. Knicks value team control on these contracts so they know where there 2nd apron limit is.

For example of Mikal extends this year he will be making 34 MM in his first year of the extension. If Mikal waits still his contract expires he could be making 44 MM his first year of his new deal.

The Knicks certainly wouldn't risk that and would deal him before because of how up against the 2nd apron they would be.

Same thing happened with Randle. If they don't know what the player wants or if they want the max the Knicks can't afford that with the 2nd apron looking...

Similar to an expiring contact like KD. What happens if he doesn't like it here or what happens if he wants a future salary the Knicks can't afford. As a 1st apron team right against the 2nd apron you can't even S&T since it's likely the S&T takes you into the 2nd apron.

All that goes back to the team preferring team control over the unknown so aller can work his cap magic.

[KnixinSix]

If Giannis gets traded, I think there is probably about a 5% chance that we could get him.
I would expect the Bucks to ask him what his 3-4 destinations are and they would definitely do him that favor (not just ONE team tho).
And even if we are one of his favorites, it would still be a longshot.
KAT would be in the deal as well as OG (probably to a third team for assets). Even at that point.. is it worth it? I mean Giannis is a top 4 player in the NBA, but you are losing your 2nd and 3rd best player on a team that is extremely thin and top heavy to begin with.
But lets say this somehow happens, then you have to make follow up deals for Hart and/or Mitch, because you would have 3 of your 6 best players that can't shoot at all.

If Luka gets traded, I think there is probably about a 5% chance that the Lakers get him.
I would expect the Mavs to ask him what his 3-4 destinations are and they would definitely do him that favor (not just ONE team tho).
And even if the Lakers are one of his favorites, it would still be a longshot.
Anthony Davis would be in the deal as well as Austin Reaves (probably to a third team for assets). Even at that point.. is it worth it? I mean Luka is a top 4 player in the NBA, but you are losing your 2nd and 3rd best player on a team that is extremely thin and top heavy to begin with.
But lets say this somehow happens, then you have to make follow up deals for Vincent and/or Vanderbilt, because you would have 3 of your 6 best players that can't shoot at all

[CyKnickal]

Trading for KD, Giannis, firing the coach, gutting an ECF team, thirsting for coaches coaching other teams to lure superstars here.....wtf is this. We are back to building nice teams for other organizations?? We want to tear apart our team to recreate the bum Kidd Bucks that never won anything??

So disappointed about these rumors. Knicks stay hush hush...so I'm surprised, but if there's an validity to this...we are going back to the Melo years???

Wtf was the point in firing Thibs if your M.O. now is to build a better defensive team because "Kat and Brunson don't work".

This is lame. I thought they fired Thibs in a hurry to make sure Bryant doesn't sign with Phoenix. They did it and now are trying to pimp other coaches out of jobs, didn't already have a plan in mind??

Hope Giannis has a big Rolodex.

[Reign23]

If Giannis gets traded, I think there is probably about a 5% chance that we could get him.
I would expect the Bucks to ask him what his 3-4 destinations are and they would definitely do him that favor (not just ONE team tho).
And even if we are one of his favorites, it would still be a longshot.
KAT would be in the deal as well as OG (probably to a third team for assets). Even at that point.. is it worth it? I mean Giannis is a top 4 player in the NBA, but you are losing your 2nd and 3rd best player on a team that is extremely thin and top heavy to begin with.
But lets say this somehow happens, then you have to make follow up deals for Hart and/or Mitch, because you would have 3 of your 6 best players that can't shoot at all.

If Luka gets traded, I think there is probably about a 5% chance that the Lakers get him.
I would expect the Mavs to ask him what his 3-4 destinations are and they would definitely do him that favor (not just ONE team tho).
And even if the Lakers are one of his favorites, it would still be a longshot.
Anthony Davis would be in the deal as well as Austin Reaves (probably to a third team for assets). Even at that point.. is it worth it? I mean Luka is a top 4 player in the NBA, but you are losing your 2nd and 3rd best player on a team that is extremely thin and top heavy to begin with.
But lets say this somehow happens, then you have to make follow up deals for Vincent and/or Vanderbilt, because you would have 3 of your 6 best players that can't shoot at all

that gets you an +1 my friend.
tbh I thought about writing "but if the Lakers can get Luka, anything is possible" at the end

[KnixinSix]

If you think Leon is going to wholesale change the core of this group after reaching the ECF, you are delusional.

Yea they said the same thing about firing the coach after getting to the ECF

Btw, aren’t you in here posting deals shipping out KAT n Deuce?

Yeah, I would actually go farther---it seems Leon saw the same things that many have criticized with Thibs and he decided to replace him despite reaching the ECF. I'm speculating here but I think Leon viewed the Boston series a bit flukish and was not happy with the regular season, Pistons series and Pacers series. That's at least how I view it.

I think he is well aware that the KAT and Brunson pairing is iffy....that does not have that much to do with Thibs...both do try on defense but just aren't good there. I think if he sees an avenue to improve that, he won't hesitate. He traded DD and broke up the NOVA connection, we have rumors of a deadline Durant offer which would have included either Mikal (whom he gave up 5 picks for) or KAT or some combination. Leon has made it clear he is going for the title and nothing less will do for him. His statement after Thibs firing said it all. If Giannis becomes available and a deal centered around KAT/OG would be agreeable for the Bucks, Leon will pull the trigger. I'm close to 100% certain of that.

You would have to try to expand the deal to include Portis and /or Brook Lopez to pair Giannis with frontcourt shooting but I think that could be done. You may also follow up the trade with a Mitch for a modest 3-and-D guy.....like deals with the Lakers or clippers come in mind (for DFS or Derrick Jones jr.)....

Brunson
Mikal
DFS-type of guy
Giannis
Lopez

with Hart, Deuce + veteran minimum etc. (Horford) off the bench....I'm pretty positive you could convince a Horford, Paul etc. to join a title run...we'd essentially need 2-3 solid bench signings and that team would be instant favorites to win the east and could take down any west team..Giannis is the ideal guy to make up for all Brunson's shortcomings....Pacers common foe....some stuff is aligning there....but Giannis may be too humble to demand a trade...

There is a big difference between going public with your trade demands disrespecting and creating animosity with your current team or quietly behind the scenes asking to be moved and then letting your team's PR staff handle the narrative through the media.

Giannis is no dummy but he is also what most view as a class act. He has loyally played for the Bucks his entire career and stood by them these 4 years of underachieving after they won it all .

The Bucks probably recognize the position they are in right now. They are stuck with an albatross contract of a declining injured player in Lillard. The pairing of Lillard and Giannis simply didnt work out. Giannis is quickly approaching the years where injury risk and/or some decline in play can start to happen. Probably like LeBron he is trying to win mutliple championships and cement his legacy. The Bucks regardless of what they say publicly understand putting together a team to win a championship in their current situation will be next to impossible. Their roster doesnt have many valuable pieces aside from Giannis and they like have no control over their own picks over the next like 5-6 years.

The only question is do they try and go full rebuild or just be competitive and continue to fall in that middle ground?

The 4 team trade I threw out there as one scenario, gets them like 6 or 7 1st round picks. It would be picks 7 AND 11 this year AND regain control of 4 of their previously completed owned picks.

The NBA also probably like they wanted Lebron wants Giannis to get to a team ready to win a championship in a major city.

I totally don't buy this "next summer" thing narrative regarding Giannis either. Lillard is missing the whole season. He's gonna wait for him to come back just to leave? If he's going, it's probably this summer. It's simply time.

Further , This Kidd stuff is probably not unrelated either . If there was one coach Giannis probably would favor over any other it's him. Of course publicly there will be reports on Knicks liking about 5 other coaches too. But make no mistake if what quite a few are reading the tea leaves is correct, a huge part of the Kidd interest is because it eventually leads to potentially getting Giannis. Lakers didnt have a ton to trade for Luka did they? Knicks have peices that can convert to multiple 1st round picks and can add a couple of their own few remaining draft assets to sweeten the pot a bit more.

[KnixinSix]

Trading for KD, Giannis, firing the coach, gutting an ECF team, thirsting for coaches coaching other teams to lure superstars here.....wtf is this. We are back to building nice teams for other organizations?? We want to tear apart our team to recreate the bum Kidd Bucks that never won anything??

So disappointed about these rumors. Knicks stay hush hush...so I'm surprised, but if there's an validity to this...we are going back to the Melo years???

Wtf was the point in firing Thibs if your M.O. now is to build a better defensive team because "Kat and Brunson don't work".

This is lame. I thought they fired Thibs in a hurry to make sure Bryant doesn't sign with Phoenix. They did it and now are trying to pimp other coaches out of jobs, didn't already have a plan in mind??

Hope Giannis has a big Rolodex.

I get it I really do. But lets not pretend like power moves for star players never work out either. They often do. We recognize that both Brunson and KAT are defensive liabilities. They are also your two best players according to almost every metric. This is Brunson's team we all know that. He isn't going anywhere. KAT is a model citizen and totally high character player. He is a local kid born and bred and also CAA and very close with Leon. But he is a big bodied 7 footer that you simply can't if you are a coach worth his salt run into the ground asking him to constantly drive to the basket from 23 feet away taking mutliple hits in the process falling down on drives then get up and play ferocious switching and scrabming defense on the other end of the court. He isn't a great defender to begin with but this makes it 10x worse.

With all that said, if you decide to keep both the priority absolutely has to be elite defensive players around them. Especially one in the front court that take pressure off KAT. The two stars that have potential availability that fit that bill perfectly are Giannis and JJJ (maybe a 3rd in Bam).

Under a more forward thinking coach if you have Giannis or JJJ or Bam in addition to OG or Bridges at small....You have KAT at PF (while also playing some 5) and then you won't be afraid to play McBride who is a great defender at 2 more minutes than thibs did. Also with all that scoring you can keep Wright who is a phenomenal defender and decent ball handler as a backup guard.

[RHODEY]

If you think Leon is going to wholesale change the core of this group after reaching the ECF, you are delusional.

Yea they said the same thing about firing the coach after getting to the ECF

Btw, aren’t you in here posting deals shipping out KAT n Deuce?

Yeah, I would actually go farther---it seems Leon saw the same things that many have criticized with Thibs and he decided to replace him despite reaching the ECF. I'm speculating here but I think Leon viewed the Boston series a bit flukish and was not happy with the regular season, Pistons series and Pacers series. That's at least how I view it.

I think he is well aware that the KAT and Brunson pairing is iffy....that does not have that much to do with Thibs...both do try on defense but just aren't good there. I think if he sees an avenue to improve that, he won't hesitate. He traded DD and broke up the NOVA connection, we have rumors of a deadline Durant offer which would have included either Mikal (whom he gave up 5 picks for) or KAT or some combination. Leon has made it clear he is going for the title and nothing less will do for him. His statement after Thibs firing said it all. If Giannis becomes available and a deal centered around KAT/OG would be agreeable for the Bucks, Leon will pull the trigger. I'm close to 100% certain of that.

You would have to try to expand the deal to include Portis and /or Brook Lopez to pair Giannis with frontcourt shooting but I think that could be done. You may also follow up the trade with a Mitch for a modest 3-and-D guy.....like deals with the Lakers or clippers come in mind (for DFS or Derrick Jones jr.)....

Brunson
Mikal
DFS-type of guy
Giannis
Lopez

with Hart, Deuce + veteran minimum etc. (Horford) off the bench....I'm pretty positive you could convince a Horford, Paul etc. to join a title run...we'd essentially need 2-3 solid bench signings and that team would be instant favorites to win the east and could take down any west team..Giannis is the ideal guy to make up for all Brunson's shortcomings....Pacers common foe....some stuff is aligning there....but Giannis may be too humble to demand a trade...

That lineup does not feel ring worthy to me.

[CyKnickal]

being able to get giannis without sending brunson or kat just sounds wrong as hell… but i’ll allow it

Picks will be added but the players do match

Knicks Trade:
OG
Mitch
Dadiet

Knicks Get
Giannis

Milwaukee trade
Giannis

Milwaukee Get:
Devin Vassell
Harrison Barnes (expiring)
Mitch (expiring)
Dadiet

SA trades
Devin Vassell
Harrison Barnes

SA get
OG

Oh, ok...yeah let's do it.



Giannis is my favorite player in the league, I made a manifest post to troll in the GB last year, talking about how he's coming here to eat gyros in Astoria once the Dame experiment fails, I knew eventually he was gonna ask out and was bummed we nutted for Bridges last year...KNEW this was gonna happen smh. I wanted to run the 2024 Julius Randle January 12-1 squad back and see what happens with Giannis...but we traded for Kat too and I thought that was that...now this.

I'm a coaching guy, not a cap/trade guy, but I thought the only way we can get Giannis is by gutting the team, because why would Bucks take our **** with what's out there from other teams, but if this scenario posted works, and Giannis demands NY and Bucks have no choice, then hell yeah.

Please keep KD away from here though....if we give up pieces and depth for that clown....I don't see how we can get Giannis. This is why this news about trading for KD mid season is disappointing...I thought these guys played chess, one move ahead of everybody else. They didn't get KD, now they're chasing Giannis....but had they got him, how would they get Giannis now??? Don't know who the next coach is but fired a good one they had already....sounds like they're just winging it...didn't think these guys operated like that. *Shrug*

[RHODEY]

Trading for KD, Giannis, firing the coach, gutting an ECF team, thirsting for coaches coaching other teams to lure superstars here.....wtf is this. We are back to building nice teams for other organizations?? We want to tear apart our team to recreate the bum Kidd Bucks that never won anything??

So disappointed about these rumors. Knicks stay hush hush...so I'm surprised, but if there's an validity to this...we are going back to the Melo years???

Wtf was the point in firing Thibs if your M.O. now is to build a better defensive team because "Kat and Brunson don't work".

This is lame. I thought they fired Thibs in a hurry to make sure Bryant doesn't sign with Phoenix. They did it and now are trying to pimp other coaches out of jobs, didn't already have a plan in mind??

Hope Giannis has a big Rolodex.

Preach. None of this makes sense and the media talking heads pretend like it does.

[8516knicks]

Yea they said the same thing about firing the coach after getting to the ECF

Btw, aren’t you in here posting deals shipping out KAT n Deuce?

Yeah, I would actually go farther---it seems Leon saw the same things that many have criticized with Thibs and he decided to replace him despite reaching the ECF. I'm speculating here but I think Leon viewed the Boston series a bit flukish and was not happy with the regular season, Pistons series and Pacers series. That's at least how I view it.

I think he is well aware that the KAT and Brunson pairing is iffy....that does not have that much to do with Thibs...both do try on defense but just aren't good there. I think if he sees an avenue to improve that, he won't hesitate. He traded DD and broke up the NOVA connection, we have rumors of a deadline Durant offer which would have included either Mikal (whom he gave up 5 picks for) or KAT or some combination. Leon has made it clear he is going for the title and nothing less will do for him. His statement after Thibs firing said it all. If Giannis becomes available and a deal centered around KAT/OG would be agreeable for the Bucks, Leon will pull the trigger. I'm close to 100% certain of that.

You would have to try to expand the deal to include Portis and /or Brook Lopez to pair Giannis with frontcourt shooting but I think that could be done. You may also follow up the trade with a Mitch for a modest 3-and-D guy.....like deals with the Lakers or clippers come in mind (for DFS or Derrick Jones jr.)....

Brunson
Mikal
DFS-type of guy
Giannis
Lopez

with Hart, Deuce + veteran minimum etc. (Horford) off the bench....I'm pretty positive you could convince a Horford, Paul etc. to join a title run...we'd essentially need 2-3 solid bench signings and that team would be instant favorites to win the east and could take down any west team..Giannis is the ideal guy to make up for all Brunson's shortcomings....Pacers common foe....some stuff is aligning there....but Giannis may be too humble to demand a trade...

That lineup does not feel ring worthy to me.

More like Phoenix in the just miss years. A bit short on star performance power.

[Polk377]

If you think Leon is going to wholesale change the core of this group after reaching the ECF, you are delusional.

Yea they said the same thing about firing the coach after getting to the ECF

Btw, aren’t you in here posting deals shipping out KAT n Deuce?

I'm shipping out KAT only for a younger piece with multiple bench pieces

[spree2kawhi]

Mitch / Horford
Towns / OG / Horford
OG / Hart
Bridges / Divo / Burks
Brunson / Wright / Micic

[KnixinSix]

I really wouldn't put it past Giannis to want to remain with the Bucks but he would essentially give up any realistic chance at another title. I kind of have a hard time believing he would do it, but he is a very humble guy....if there is a superstar that may just do it, it would be Giannis.

Maybe its all quiet until if/when Knicks get Kidd. And then we start to hear about Giannis's desire to play for Kidd.

[Jeffrey]

I’d go for KD. His short contract makes it easier to manage, and he can give you similar offensive production to KAT.

Giannis is obviously a beast, but he is going to cost a treasure trove of assets. The whole equation changes if either KD or Giannis specifically wants the Knicks though. Even then, the Bucks will still have leverage because Giannis has years left on his deal, while KD only has one year and can force things a bit more.

We are now in win-now mode and this will be year 2. In recent past, y'all really need to understand that championship title contenders only last for 2.5-3 years with the same core. After that you shake things up to make sure you extend that window.

Mitch
OG
KD
Bridges
Brunson

Bench - Rotation
6. Hart - all swiss army type
7. Deuce - 36% 3pt shooter/ defender
8. Bogdanovic - bucket getter
9. Lopez - 40% 3pt shooter, stretch 5
10. Kolek - backup ball handler behind Brunson

11. Marcus Morris
12. Hokporti

For vet minimum signings: Marcus Morris, Bojan Bogdanovic, Brook Lopez

the knicks don't want short contracts though...as an above 1st apron team you don't want to risk losing guys and not being able to sign them in the future...that is sort of what happened with the ihart situation.

Similar to Randle and Knicks not talking extension and they made the move earlier to move off Randle something similar will happen to Mikal if he doesn't sign his extension this offseason you probably will eventually see him traded.

When we go big game hunting, our goal is to keep KAT's contract? If so, OG would have to go unless you're looking at Bridges/Hart combo.

[spree8]

If you think Leon is going to wholesale change the core of this group after reaching the ECF, you are delusional.

Yea they said the same thing about firing the coach after getting to the ECF

Btw, aren’t you in here posting deals shipping out KAT n Deuce?

I'm shipping out KAT only for a younger piece with multiple bench pieces

You advocated for Deuce being traded along with KAT too. Deuce is one of the core 7 players… when he’s running with the starters in place of Hart the difference in net rating was significant… a +21 difference.

You’re saying people are delusional for thinking Leon would trade the core that got us to the ECF. If you’re advocating for trading 30% of the core, one of which is 50% of our All-Star/All-NBA core, how is that not being hypocritical?

[spree8]

If you think Leon is going to wholesale change the core of this group after reaching the ECF, you are delusional.

Yea they said the same thing about firing the coach after getting to the ECF

Btw, aren’t you in here posting deals shipping out KAT n Deuce?

Yeah, I would actually go farther---it seems Leon saw the same things that many have criticized with Thibs and he decided to replace him despite reaching the ECF. I'm speculating here but I think Leon viewed the Boston series a bit flukish and was not happy with the regular season, Pistons series and Pacers series. That's at least how I view it.

I think he is well aware that the KAT and Brunson pairing is iffy....that does not have that much to do with Thibs...both do try on defense but just aren't good there. I think if he sees an avenue to improve that, he won't hesitate. He traded DD and broke up the NOVA connection, we have rumors of a deadline Durant offer which would have included either Mikal (whom he gave up 5 picks for) or KAT or some combination. Leon has made it clear he is going for the title and nothing less will do for him. His statement after Thibs firing said it all. If Giannis becomes available and a deal centered around KAT/OG would be agreeable for the Bucks, Leon will pull the trigger. I'm close to 100% certain of that.

You would have to try to expand the deal to include Portis and /or Brook Lopez to pair Giannis with frontcourt shooting but I think that could be done. You may also follow up the trade with a Mitch for a modest 3-and-D guy.....like deals with the Lakers or clippers come in mind (for DFS or Derrick Jones jr.)....

Brunson
Mikal
DFS-type of guy
Giannis
Lopez

with Hart, Deuce + veteran minimum etc. (Horford) off the bench....I'm pretty positive you could convince a Horford, Paul etc. to join a title run...we'd essentially need 2-3 solid bench signings and that team would be instant favorites to win the east and could take down any west team..Giannis is the ideal guy to make up for all Brunson's shortcomings....Pacers common foe....some stuff is aligning there....but Giannis may be too humble to demand a trade...

Yea I have no idea what to believe anymore other than the fact that nobody knows anything… so people shyting on fan ideas calling them delusional are just exposing themselves. All you have to do is look around to see all the moves that would’ve been called the same in the past, actually happening (Thibs firing, Luka for AD, KAT for Randle, etc).

I will say tho that seeing info coming out about the Bucks and Giannis along with our cap situation, takes the wind out of my sails lol. Brock is gunna have to work some serious magic this summer and I’m back to being highly skeptical of a Giannis deal. Not gunna rain on peoples parade or fun police them when firing up the trade checker tho

[JustBuzzin]

Seems like KD is the only realistic option for a game changer. Knicks just don't have the assets for Giannis.

[RHODEY]

Yeah, I would actually go farther---it seems Leon saw the same things that many have criticized with Thibs and he decided to replace him despite reaching the ECF. I'm speculating here but I think Leon viewed the Boston series a bit flukish and was not happy with the regular season, Pistons series and Pacers series. That's at least how I view it.

I think he is well aware that the KAT and Brunson pairing is iffy....that does not have that much to do with Thibs...both do try on defense but just aren't good there. I think if he sees an avenue to improve that, he won't hesitate. He traded DD and broke up the NOVA connection, we have rumors of a deadline Durant offer which would have included either Mikal (whom he gave up 5 picks for) or KAT or some combination. Leon has made it clear he is going for the title and nothing less will do for him. His statement after Thibs firing said it all. If Giannis becomes available and a deal centered around KAT/OG would be agreeable for the Bucks, Leon will pull the trigger. I'm close to 100% certain of that.

You would have to try to expand the deal to include Portis and /or Brook Lopez to pair Giannis with frontcourt shooting but I think that could be done. You may also follow up the trade with a Mitch for a modest 3-and-D guy.....like deals with the Lakers or clippers come in mind (for DFS or Derrick Jones jr.)....

Brunson
Mikal
DFS-type of guy
Giannis
Lopez

with Hart, Deuce + veteran minimum etc. (Horford) off the bench....I'm pretty positive you could convince a Horford, Paul etc. to join a title run...we'd essentially need 2-3 solid bench signings and that team would be instant favorites to win the east and could take down any west team..Giannis is the ideal guy to make up for all Brunson's shortcomings....Pacers common foe....some stuff is aligning there....but Giannis may be too humble to demand a trade...

That lineup does not feel ring worthy to me.

More like Phoenix in the just miss years. A bit short on star performance power.

Significantly worse imo, that team wasn't starting 38 year old fossils.

[KnixinSix]

Yea they said the same thing about firing the coach after getting to the ECF

Btw, aren’t you in here posting deals shipping out KAT n Deuce?

Yeah, I would actually go farther---it seems Leon saw the same things that many have criticized with Thibs and he decided to replace him despite reaching the ECF. I'm speculating here but I think Leon viewed the Boston series a bit flukish and was not happy with the regular season, Pistons series and Pacers series. That's at least how I view it.

I think he is well aware that the KAT and Brunson pairing is iffy....that does not have that much to do with Thibs...both do try on defense but just aren't good there. I think if he sees an avenue to improve that, he won't hesitate. He traded DD and broke up the NOVA connection, we have rumors of a deadline Durant offer which would have included either Mikal (whom he gave up 5 picks for) or KAT or some combination. Leon has made it clear he is going for the title and nothing less will do for him. His statement after Thibs firing said it all. If Giannis becomes available and a deal centered around KAT/OG would be agreeable for the Bucks, Leon will pull the trigger. I'm close to 100% certain of that.

You would have to try to expand the deal to include Portis and /or Brook Lopez to pair Giannis with frontcourt shooting but I think that could be done. You may also follow up the trade with a Mitch for a modest 3-and-D guy.....like deals with the Lakers or clippers come in mind (for DFS or Derrick Jones jr.)....

Brunson
Mikal
DFS-type of guy
Giannis
Lopez

with Hart, Deuce + veteran minimum etc. (Horford) off the bench....I'm pretty positive you could convince a Horford, Paul etc. to join a title run...we'd essentially need 2-3 solid bench signings and that team would be instant favorites to win the east and could take down any west team..Giannis is the ideal guy to make up for all Brunson's shortcomings....Pacers common foe....some stuff is aligning there....but Giannis may be too humble to demand a trade...

Yea I have no idea what to believe anymore other than the fact that nobody knows anything… so people shyting on fan ideas calling them delusional are just exposing themselves. All you have to do is look around to see all the moves that would’ve been called the same in the past, actually happening (Thibs firing, Luka for AD, KAT for Randle, etc).

I will say tho that seeing info coming out about the Bucks and Giannis along with our cap situation, takes the wind out of my sails lol. Brock is gunna have to work some serious magic this summer and I’m back to being highly skeptical of a Giannis deal. Not gunna rain on peoples parade or fun police them when firing up the trade checker tho

Total hunch here. But I think the narrative right now is to quiet down any Giannis talk until after finals. Then the idea is Knicks get Giannis favorite coach, media starts waxing poetic about how much Giannis loves Kidd and then a re-union is orchestrated with Bucks going on full rebuild mode with Knicks sending out Bridges (or OG) and Hart and Mitch and involving them in a multiple player deal where Bucks end up with a bunch of picks while possibly recouping some of their own pick swaps they gave up and then going full rebuild.