Knicks not ruling out DRose extension later in the season

[CJackson]

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2684128-nba-player-power-rankings-brs-top-30-point-guards-at-the-halfway-point/page/31

Bleacher report top 30 PG rankings

DRose #26
Jennings not on the list
Neither is Ole Failderon

26. Derrick Rose, New York Knicks
Age: 28

2016-17 Per-Game Stats: 17.3 points, 3.9 rebounds, 4.5 assists, 0.7 steals, 0.4 blocks

Advanced Metrics: 15.7 PER, Minus-55.55 TPA, Minus-2.21 RPM



Even though Derrick Rose is capable of putting together sterling offensive showings and throwing down massive slams, he hasn't come close to achieving consistency with the New York Knicks.

His impressive outings, which remind viewers of his pre-injury achievements, and his putrid games cancel each other out, leaving Rose as an average offensive player who admittedly carries upside. He'll only regain stardom—in terms of on-court ability, not off-court hype—if he can start knocking down threes at better than a 24.5 percent clip.

Of course, Rose could also help his case on defense.

His production will continue to lag well behind his reputation so long as he remains one of the league's worst stoppers. NBA Math's defensive points saved has him as one of the NBA's bottom 30 defenders, and ESPN.com's defensive real plus/minus places him at No. 69 among 84 point guards.

it's a shame a certain bandwagon fan disappeared, it would've been cool if he read this tidbit about derrick rose.

So are you and NYK Mentality going to be on the card of that upcoming freak show boxing event?

[battabing10]

I wouldn't mind bringing Rose back if we had the flexibility to use him in like a Monta Ellis/JCraw role as a secondary ball handler/guy who fills it up when he gets going but, we likely won't have the flexibility to use him in that role because of the Noah and Lee contracts unless somebody bites on Noah in a trade.

When is this team going to say enough with guys who have few fundamental TEAM basketball skills?

Having a handle and getting into the paint are Rose's skills

Rose has NO team basketball skills to speak of

Pairing a dumb player in the backcourt with another PG doesn't make Rose better.

Sliding Rose over to SG or sixth man will not change their tendencies. He will still want to do the same thing with the ball whether you call him a PG, a SG, a Sixth Man or The Little Train That Could

It doesn't make him better but, it puts less burden on someone to do things they can't. Nobody is a perfect player. Every team tries to accentuate their best player's strengths and hide their weaknesses. LeBron isn't a consistent shooter and can't be depended on to be the only source of ball handling in crunch time moments. So the Cavs put shooters around him and have Kyrie to handle the ball in critical moments as well. Steph Curry isn't the greatest playmaker or defender so, the Warriors surround him with hard nosed defensive guys and great passers for their positions. Rose in the right role with less of a dependence on him would be very effective. Things have context.... Rose isn't a bad player. I think the eye test kind of confirms that but, I think he's just being relied on to do something that he can't do effectively which is be the main distributor and playmaker for an offense.

he sucks on defense too so yeah.... he is a bad player. start baker!!!

[dakomish23]

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2684128-nba-player-power-rankings-brs-top-30-point-guards-at-the-halfway-point/page/31

Bleacher report top 30 PG rankings

DRose #26
Jennings not on the list
Neither is Ole Failderon

26. Derrick Rose, New York Knicks
Age: 28

2016-17 Per-Game Stats: 17.3 points, 3.9 rebounds, 4.5 assists, 0.7 steals, 0.4 blocks

Advanced Metrics: 15.7 PER, Minus-55.55 TPA, Minus-2.21 RPM



Even though Derrick Rose is capable of putting together sterling offensive showings and throwing down massive slams, he hasn't come close to achieving consistency with the New York Knicks.

His impressive outings, which remind viewers of his pre-injury achievements, and his putrid games cancel each other out, leaving Rose as an average offensive player who admittedly carries upside. He'll only regain stardom—in terms of on-court ability, not off-court hype—if he can start knocking down threes at better than a 24.5 percent clip.

Of course, Rose could also help his case on defense.

His production will continue to lag well behind his reputation so long as he remains one of the league's worst stoppers. NBA Math's defensive points saved has him as one of the NBA's bottom 30 defenders, and ESPN.com's defensive real plus/minus places him at No. 69 among 84 point guards.

fk rose he a shooting guard -_-
ever since that atlanta game he went back to his old self like wtf he was doin so good i was even ready to give him that extension

Make him the 6th man. Let him carry the terrible 2nd unit that needs a go to person. Only thing I can think of. Right now the dude is going ISO from top of the key and isn't creating enough from the position.

[FemaleDogPlease]

Might as well lock this up. Rose is gone.

[blueNorange]

only this franchise would be dumb enough to be fooled by a player playing for a contract.

rose really screwed the pooch, he only had to fake hustle for 4 more months.

[Icandoallthings]

only this franchise would be dumb enough to be fooled by a player playing for a contract.

rose really screwed the pooch, he only had to fake hustle for 4 more months.

I fear you maybe overestimating the amount of common sense this franchise has and maybe in for a disappointment.

[dakomish23]

I fear you maybe overestimating the amount of common sense this franchise has and maybe in for a disappointment.

They'll draft ANOTHER big then use that as an excuse to bring back Drose and Jennings.

PJax deserves this blight on his resume

[Else_where]

i suppose the thread title needs to be updated

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[JustCame]

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A mod can lock this topic up now. lol

[CJackson]

How's my prediction that Rose will not get more than $15M a year from any team looking now?

[bringinhinkie]

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I've been anti rose since early in this thread/season, but this report is obviously just ny media looking for views/clicks.. I mean look at the timing

Dude was just awol

Baiting ny fans

obviously as a player his goal is a max contract, but I find I very hard to believe he has recently said anything in regard to it

He will get a one year deal / 1+1 and it won't be far north of 10mill/year

If there are gms that think otherwise, Phil should be on the phones asap but I truly truly doubt it

Combo guard that can't shoot or play d and has tunnel vision .. remember how much knicks fans used to get on lil Nate/Crawford? At least those guys could hit a jumper / wide open teammates

The silver lining for him is he can change his game/approach at any point and become serviceable .. at the same time it's this notion that frustrates the living **** out of fans (because he hasn't)