Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Cont'd

[RHODEY]

Seems like KD is the only realistic option for a game changer. Knicks just don't have the assets for Giannis.

But we have the assets to make Phoenix better, while we get much worse.

[WargamesX]

Yeah, I would actually go farther---it seems Leon saw the same things that many have criticized with Thibs and he decided to replace him despite reaching the ECF. I'm speculating here but I think Leon viewed the Boston series a bit flukish and was not happy with the regular season, Pistons series and Pacers series. That's at least how I view it.

I think he is well aware that the KAT and Brunson pairing is iffy....that does not have that much to do with Thibs...both do try on defense but just aren't good there. I think if he sees an avenue to improve that, he won't hesitate. He traded DD and broke up the NOVA connection, we have rumors of a deadline Durant offer which would have included either Mikal (whom he gave up 5 picks for) or KAT or some combination. Leon has made it clear he is going for the title and nothing less will do for him. His statement after Thibs firing said it all. If Giannis becomes available and a deal centered around KAT/OG would be agreeable for the Bucks, Leon will pull the trigger. I'm close to 100% certain of that.

You would have to try to expand the deal to include Portis and /or Brook Lopez to pair Giannis with frontcourt shooting but I think that could be done. You may also follow up the trade with a Mitch for a modest 3-and-D guy.....like deals with the Lakers or clippers come in mind (for DFS or Derrick Jones jr.)....

Brunson
Mikal
DFS-type of guy
Giannis
Lopez

with Hart, Deuce + veteran minimum etc. (Horford) off the bench....I'm pretty positive you could convince a Horford, Paul etc. to join a title run...we'd essentially need 2-3 solid bench signings and that team would be instant favorites to win the east and could take down any west team..Giannis is the ideal guy to make up for all Brunson's shortcomings....Pacers common foe....some stuff is aligning there....but Giannis may be too humble to demand a trade...

Yea I have no idea what to believe anymore other than the fact that nobody knows anything… so people shyting on fan ideas calling them delusional are just exposing themselves. All you have to do is look around to see all the moves that would’ve been called the same in the past, actually happening (Thibs firing, Luka for AD, KAT for Randle, etc).

I will say tho that seeing info coming out about the Bucks and Giannis along with our cap situation, takes the wind out of my sails lol. Brock is gunna have to work some serious magic this summer and I’m back to being highly skeptical of a Giannis deal. Not gunna rain on peoples parade or fun police them when firing up the trade checker tho

Total hunch here. But I think the narrative right now is to quiet down any Giannis talk until after finals. Then the idea is Knicks get Giannis favorite coach, media starts waxing poetic about how much Giannis loves Kidd and then a re-union is orchestrated with Bucks going on full rebuild mode with Knicks sending out Bridges (or OG) and Hart and Mitch and involving them in a multiple player deal where Bucks end up with a bunch of picks while possibly recouping some of their own pick swaps they gave up and then going full rebuild.

I am still hoping we can do a trade where we keep Mikal and OG to pair with Giannis and Brunson.

[JustBuzzin]

Seems like KD is the only realistic option for a game changer. Knicks just don't have the assets for Giannis.

But we have the assets to make Phoenix better, while we get much worse.

What would be the trade in this scenario?

[KnixinSix]

Yea I have no idea what to believe anymore other than the fact that nobody knows anything… so people shyting on fan ideas calling them delusional are just exposing themselves. All you have to do is look around to see all the moves that would’ve been called the same in the past, actually happening (Thibs firing, Luka for AD, KAT for Randle, etc).

I will say tho that seeing info coming out about the Bucks and Giannis along with our cap situation, takes the wind out of my sails lol. Brock is gunna have to work some serious magic this summer and I’m back to being highly skeptical of a Giannis deal. Not gunna rain on peoples parade or fun police them when firing up the trade checker tho

Total hunch here. But I think the narrative right now is to quiet down any Giannis talk until after finals. Then the idea is Knicks get Giannis favorite coach, media starts waxing poetic about how much Giannis loves Kidd and then a re-union is orchestrated with Bucks going on full rebuild mode with Knicks sending out Bridges (or OG) and Hart and Mitch and involving them in a multiple player deal where Bucks end up with a bunch of picks while possibly recouping some of their own pick swaps they gave up and then going full rebuild.

I am still hoping we can do a trade where we keep Mikal and OG to pair with Giannis and Brunson.

I agree with you that could be preferable. But honestly whether I agree with it or not I feel like KAT is the one they prefer to keep the most of those 3. And if it were up to me I might even prefer a JJJ trade above all else.

I think this trade COULD be in the general range of how it shakes out.......



Bucks recognize full rebuild is the best path. They get picks 7 AND 11 this year. Then recoup ALL 4 picks they gave up control to with the pick swaps as well as an additional 3 FRPs to boot.

However there is still a big issue....Brunson then begins to sulk that his Nova buddies are now gone! He locks himself in the basement and refuses to come out.

Leon being the empathetic and caring individual he is tells Brunson not to worry he has something else cooked up to partially make up for it.....




2 weeks later Donte knocks on the locked basement door and says 'hey bro, Im back'. Brunson says 'Donte is that really you?!' He finally comes out of the basement and leads us to a championship next year.

[HopelessKnick]

Yea I have no idea what to believe anymore other than the fact that nobody knows anything… so people shyting on fan ideas calling them delusional are just exposing themselves. All you have to do is look around to see all the moves that would’ve been called the same in the past, actually happening (Thibs firing, Luka for AD, KAT for Randle, etc).

I will say tho that seeing info coming out about the Bucks and Giannis along with our cap situation, takes the wind out of my sails lol. Brock is gunna have to work some serious magic this summer and I’m back to being highly skeptical of a Giannis deal. Not gunna rain on peoples parade or fun police them when firing up the trade checker tho

Total hunch here. But I think the narrative right now is to quiet down any Giannis talk until after finals. Then the idea is Knicks get Giannis favorite coach, media starts waxing poetic about how much Giannis loves Kidd and then a re-union is orchestrated with Bucks going on full rebuild mode with Knicks sending out Bridges (or OG) and Hart and Mitch and involving them in a multiple player deal where Bucks end up with a bunch of picks while possibly recouping some of their own pick swaps they gave up and then going full rebuild.

I am still hoping we can do a trade where we keep Mikal and OG to pair with Giannis and Brunson.

Keep in mind for that to have a chance of happening we would need to be the Lakers. That type of stuff usually does not happen for the Knicks.

[Polk377]

Yea they said the same thing about firing the coach after getting to the ECF

Btw, aren’t you in here posting deals shipping out KAT n Deuce?

I'm shipping out KAT only for a younger piece with multiple bench pieces

You advocated for Deuce being traded along with KAT too. Deuce is one of the core 7 players… when he’s running with the starters in place of Hart the difference in net rating was significant… a +21 difference.

You’re saying people are delusional for thinking Leon would trade the core that got us to the ECF. If you’re advocating for trading 30% of the core, one of which is 50% of our All-Star/All-NBA core, how is that not being hypocritical?

I said if we had to make a change for defensive purposes 2 players I liked that would fit this team were JJJ and Trey Murphy. KAT would go out and we would get a few players back that fit. Someone mentioned throwing in Duece for another player and I said that wouldnt bother me. All of that was before the Thibs firing. It was mainly for fitting pieces, depth and cap flexibility. None of it was to change the identity of the team as has been for the last 3-4 seasons.

[spree8]

I'm shipping out KAT only for a younger piece with multiple bench pieces

You advocated for Deuce being traded along with KAT too. Deuce is one of the core 7 players… when he’s running with the starters in place of Hart the difference in net rating was significant… a +21 difference.

You’re saying people are delusional for thinking Leon would trade the core that got us to the ECF. If you’re advocating for trading 30% of the core, one of which is 50% of our All-Star/All-NBA core, how is that not being hypocritical?

I said if we had to make a change for defensive purposes 2 players I liked that would fit this team were JJJ and Trey Murphy. KAT would go out and we would get a few players back that fit. Someone mentioned throwing in Duece for another player and I said that wouldnt bother me. All of that was before the Thibs firing. It was mainly for fitting pieces, depth and cap flexibility. None of it was to change the identity of the team as has been for the last 3-4 seasons.

It’s not what got us to the ECF tho… that was your point. If JB goes down, who carries the offensive load? Because we did really well when he went down this year (8-6 I believe) with KAT putting up 25 ppg in those games with crazy efficiency (4.5 +/-, 46% from 3, top 10 in GmSc)…

[KnixinSix]

I'm shipping out KAT only for a younger piece with multiple bench pieces

You advocated for Deuce being traded along with KAT too. Deuce is one of the core 7 players… when he’s running with the starters in place of Hart the difference in net rating was significant… a +21 difference.

You’re saying people are delusional for thinking Leon would trade the core that got us to the ECF. If you’re advocating for trading 30% of the core, one of which is 50% of our All-Star/All-NBA core, how is that not being hypocritical?

I said if we had to make a change for defensive purposes 2 players I liked that would fit this team were JJJ and Trey Murphy. KAT would go out and we would get a few players back that fit. Someone mentioned throwing in Duece for another player and I said that wouldnt bother me. All of that was before the Thibs firing. It was mainly for fitting pieces, depth and cap flexibility. None of it was to change the identity of the team as has been for the last 3-4 seasons.

JJJ would be my preferred path too. But this seems to be building towards a different path behind the scenes (if in fact we are reading the tea leaves correctly).

KAT seems like they are truly committed to him long term and want to find the right coach and right players around him and Brunson to make it work. If you stagger Brunson and KAT more often in the lineup especially if you have a guy like Giannis that would likely be the best recipe for success.

[KnixinSix]

I'm shipping out KAT only for a younger piece with multiple bench pieces

You advocated for Deuce being traded along with KAT too. Deuce is one of the core 7 players… when he’s running with the starters in place of Hart the difference in net rating was significant… a +21 difference.

You’re saying people are delusional for thinking Leon would trade the core that got us to the ECF. If you’re advocating for trading 30% of the core, one of which is 50% of our All-Star/All-NBA core, how is that not being hypocritical?

I said if we had to make a change for defensive purposes 2 players I liked that would fit this team were JJJ and Trey Murphy. KAT would go out and we would get a few players back that fit. Someone mentioned throwing in Duece for another player and I said that wouldnt bother me. All of that was before the Thibs firing. It was mainly for fitting pieces, depth and cap flexibility. None of it was to change the identity of the team as has been for the last 3-4 seasons.

JJJ and Bane for KAT and Bridges would be incredible. Bane is one of the most well rounded and underrated 2 way players in the league. He can back up Brunson even.

JJJ/Mitch/Huk
OG/MLE
Hart/MLE
Bane/McBride
Brunson/Bane

Sick versatility with that lineup.

[KnixinSix]

Total hunch here. But I think the narrative right now is to quiet down any Giannis talk until after finals. Then the idea is Knicks get Giannis favorite coach, media starts waxing poetic about how much Giannis loves Kidd and then a re-union is orchestrated with Bucks going on full rebuild mode with Knicks sending out Bridges (or OG) and Hart and Mitch and involving them in a multiple player deal where Bucks end up with a bunch of picks while possibly recouping some of their own pick swaps they gave up and then going full rebuild.

I am still hoping we can do a trade where we keep Mikal and OG to pair with Giannis and Brunson.

Keep in mind for that to have a chance of happening we would need to be the Lakers. That type of stuff usually does not happen for the Knicks.

With that said, I think San Antonio can make a great offer with the no.2 overall pick. So it only happens if Giannis specifically asks for NY. Hence the push for Jason Kidd.

[RHODEY]

Seems like KD is the only realistic option for a game changer. Knicks just don't have the assets for Giannis.

But we have the assets to make Phoenix better, while we get much worse.

What would be the trade in this scenario?

Don't know but pretty much any aggregation of contracts will wreck our starting talent or our depth.

[bonita_the_frog]

Are Jason Kidd and Giannis besties? Kidd is my favorite coach too ever since he spilled things very fun person to be around.

[The KnicksFix]

Clearer image of the trade I did on Fanspo.....with a minor tweak




6 First round picks and their own 2 1st round picks swaps, 2 2nd round picks. Milwaukee gets their picks back from the Pelicans which is a huge component while the next couple years. Those picks will likely be top 5-7. They also get the #7 pick this year.

3 rotational players out 1 in puts us at 5 players
Can’t lose so many guys when we are already thin

[TrueWarrior]

People keep talking about depth. We had average depth this season. Thibs just didnt utilize them well, which is partly why hes gone.

Hart and/or Mitch should come off the bench, if they arent moved, where they would immediately improve it. Mitch was hurt most of the season and took a while to get his conditioning up.

Deuce was a bit hurt most of the season and didn’t breakout as much as we hoped, but he ended well, should have played more over Hart, and is just clearly a good young 2 way bench player on a great contract.

Delon Wright played well as a starter and in the playoffs, but Thibs barely played him other than that.

Shamet had a great end of the season and did well in the Pacers series.

Precious has had his moments being a solid rotation player.

Payne is a proven sparkplug vet.

Kolek is an NBA ready offensive player who can be a backup PG.

Hukporti looks like a decent backup center.

Jury is out on Dadiet, McCullar, Beauchamp.

Even if half of these guys dont return, we can pickup other guys to fill the void.

Obi was buried by Thibs, and then Obi poetically helped bury Thibs and the Knicks. Obi also spawned the comeback against the Thunder game 1, and gets to close playoff games. Thibs would have glued him to his seat after his rough start. Carlisle actually believes in all his players and they feel that.

Grimes was a starter here yeah, but he wasnt given any freedom or confidence on offense. Thibs’ offense obviously just sucked. We gave up all these picks for Mikal after giving Grimes away.

Hartenstein was limited here as well. Thibs didnt even start him over Jericho at first. Many posters here said hed never be more than a backup too, until he broke out after half the team got hurt, because of how badly Thibs used him before that.

Point is if we get Giannis, and keep Brunson/KAT, we’d have 3 All NBA guys, where we can have at least 1-2 on the court at all times. We’d be a bit thin around them at first, but still have some guys left and Id take the risk we can find other good enough role players to make it work.

[KnixinSix]

Clearer image of the trade I did on Fanspo.....with a minor tweak




6 First round picks and their own 2 1st round picks swaps, 2 2nd round picks. Milwaukee gets their picks back from the Pelicans which is a huge component while the next couple years. Those picks will likely be top 5-7. They also get the #7 pick this year.

3 rotational players out 1 in puts us at 5 players
Can’t lose so many guys when we are already thin

MLE gets us another player at 5.6M
Re-sign Wright at the min

We would most definitely still have enough. Huk, McCullar, Kolek, Dadiet.

[TheGreenArrow]

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[Polk377]

You advocated for Deuce being traded along with KAT too. Deuce is one of the core 7 players… when he’s running with the starters in place of Hart the difference in net rating was significant… a +21 difference.

You’re saying people are delusional for thinking Leon would trade the core that got us to the ECF. If you’re advocating for trading 30% of the core, one of which is 50% of our All-Star/All-NBA core, how is that not being hypocritical?

I said if we had to make a change for defensive purposes 2 players I liked that would fit this team were JJJ and Trey Murphy. KAT would go out and we would get a few players back that fit. Someone mentioned throwing in Duece for another player and I said that wouldnt bother me. All of that was before the Thibs firing. It was mainly for fitting pieces, depth and cap flexibility. None of it was to change the identity of the team as has been for the last 3-4 seasons.

JJJ would be my preferred path too. But this seems to be building towards a different path behind the scenes (if in fact we are reading the tea leaves correctly).

KAT seems like they are truly committed to him long term and want to find the right coach and right players around him and Brunson to make it work. If you stagger Brunson and KAT more often in the lineup especially if you have a guy like Giannis that would likely be the best recipe for success.

The problem is paying 2 guys $50+ mil and then trying to build a competent team around them. It turns into Phoenix all over again.

[Polk377]

You advocated for Deuce being traded along with KAT too. Deuce is one of the core 7 players… when he’s running with the starters in place of Hart the difference in net rating was significant… a +21 difference.

You’re saying people are delusional for thinking Leon would trade the core that got us to the ECF. If you’re advocating for trading 30% of the core, one of which is 50% of our All-Star/All-NBA core, how is that not being hypocritical?

I said if we had to make a change for defensive purposes 2 players I liked that would fit this team were JJJ and Trey Murphy. KAT would go out and we would get a few players back that fit. Someone mentioned throwing in Duece for another player and I said that wouldnt bother me. All of that was before the Thibs firing. It was mainly for fitting pieces, depth and cap flexibility. None of it was to change the identity of the team as has been for the last 3-4 seasons.

JJJ and Bane for KAT and Bridges would be incredible. Bane is one of the most well rounded and underrated 2 way players in the league. He can back up Brunson even.

JJJ/Mitch/Huk
OG/MLE
Hart/MLE
Bane/McBride
Brunson/Bane

Sick versatility with that lineup.

Way too small of a lineup. JJJ isnt exactly Towns when it comes to rebounding and OG is not a PF. We need to balance order in the lineup.

[spree8]

I said if we had to make a change for defensive purposes 2 players I liked that would fit this team were JJJ and Trey Murphy. KAT would go out and we would get a few players back that fit. Someone mentioned throwing in Duece for another player and I said that wouldnt bother me. All of that was before the Thibs firing. It was mainly for fitting pieces, depth and cap flexibility. None of it was to change the identity of the team as has been for the last 3-4 seasons.

JJJ would be my preferred path too. But this seems to be building towards a different path behind the scenes (if in fact we are reading the tea leaves correctly).

KAT seems like they are truly committed to him long term and want to find the right coach and right players around him and Brunson to make it work. If you stagger Brunson and KAT more often in the lineup especially if you have a guy like Giannis that would likely be the best recipe for success.

The problem is paying 2 guys $50+ mil and then trying to build a competent team around them. It turns into Phoenix all over again.

Booker, washed n broken Beal, 37 year old KD isn’t the same as Brunson, Giannis, KAT. Come on now