[Camelo Thread Part 21] - Knicks Met With Melo Thursday

damedash09 · Post #1361 » by **damedash09** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:31 am

thats a great trade for the knicks its basically gallinari for melo! the 1st rd pick is going to be a late chandler was probally going to be let go.i like felton but he cant hold up a deal for melo so do it.i just hope the birdman is coming too

Leeroy Jenkins · Post #1362 » by **Leeroy Jenkins** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:32 am

I don't believe Donnie has plans A, B, and prolly even C, and Dolan will disregard all of that and drive Donnie away in the process?

sol537 · Post #1363 » by **sol537** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:32 am

we keep 2011 pic, 2014 pick, 2nd rounders, Fields, Douglas, and Mozgov.

*If* 'Melo told Dolan he's not waiting for free agency and wants his max, then you have no choice but to do this deal. You have to give to get and 'Melo is the piece that gets us closer.

czoneny · Post #1364 » by **czoneny** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:32 am

im inclined to believe denver doesn't even wanna trade him to us even if we offered our whole team. they just really got butthurt over that toast at the wedding

gj Cp3

RHODEY · Post #1365 » by **RHODEY** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:32 am

So has Dolan hired Walsh only to render him useless at a time when his experience is needed most? Man I hope they ask for Fields and kill this deal.

aggo · Post #1366 » by **aggo** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:32 am

if denver finds a way to turn down our offer all i can do is just LOL at that organization...

god shammgod · Post #1367 » by **god shammgod** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:33 am

stop it wojo. melo was a good soldier. they'll take the knicks deal.

Gregory151 · Post #1368 » by **Gregory151** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:33 am

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Still, it will come down to Denver owner Stan Kroenke's decision to OK Knicks offer and give 'Melo what he wants: $65M and the Knicks.
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AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
James Dolan and Josh Kroenke are extremely involved in these talks. One source went so far as to say that the owners are calling the shots.
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AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
Donnie Walsh and Masai Uriji were on conference call, but their roles have diminished. Source says owners have stepped in to get this done.
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NYPost_Berman Marc Berman
Melo tells Post, "It's been going on a long time getting deals to be put on table, for NY to put deal on table, obviously it's dialogue.
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towelie · Post #1369 » by **towelie** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:33 am

I'd honestly prefer to take back Birdman or Harrington if it means we can forego the Felton/Billups swap.

In the end, the main reason they want to dump Billups for Felton is because of the extra money savings (and luxury tax savings) from adding more salary into the trade and exploiting the 125% rule.

3StarburyAriza21 · Post #1370 » by **3StarburyAriza21** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:34 am

I'm disappointed with Melo in all of this, if he had just been willing to stick it out he could've come here with a much better team in the offseason, even if we had had to renounce Chandler. Or he could've said he wasn't extending with the Nets so the Knicks didn't have to go nuts here.

That being said, superstars win championships in this league, and if this goes down we'll have two of them. For all of you bummed about losing Melo, I agree with you; he's my favorite player on the team and would've been perfect to keep because if the deal goes down we won't really have any great shooters. But what if Melo had gone to the Nets? We would've been stuck with Amare + the kids, having no chance to compete for a title for MAYBE another two years, at which point we'd have to pray D-Will or CP3 came here. We wouldn't be good enough to win anything, but we wouldn't be bad enough to get a high-enough lottery pick to be able to draft a superstar. With Melo and Amare, we're almost there now.

haterade · Post #1371 » by **haterade** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:34 am

Knicks_Fan2 wrote:For those who are opposed to the rumored deal, if you knew that Melo would not be a Knick if we waited till free agency, would you still be against the deal?

Yes because Denver will get next to nothing if Melo goes, they have to trade him. The most compensation they would get is 2 late 1st rounders. If he gets traded to the Nets, Melo will be stuck in Limbo with a team going no where.

aluball17 · Post #1372 » by **aluball17** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:34 am

So if they pass on this ... let Melo go to the Nets meeting and the he passes.

Then you godfather deal them because there is no other option at that point.

AllanHoustonFan · Post #1373 » by **AllanHoustonFan** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:35 am

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
As much as Amar'e wants Melo in NY, he's completely against gutting the roster to get him, sources say. He knows it takes a balanced roster.

Wtf is this guy talking about? Amar'e was saying himself it doesn't matter if we gut our team because the two of them are good enough.

god shammgod · Post #1374 » by **god shammgod** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:35 am

towelie wrote:I'd honestly prefer to take back Birdman or Harrington if it means we can forego the Felton/Billups swap.

In the end, the main reason they want to dump Billups for Felton is because of the extra money savings (and luxury tax savings) from adding more salary into the trade and exploiting the 125% rule.

seems like donnie doesn't want to add unnecessary salary

Post #1375 » by **Manhattan Project** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:35 am

johnnywishbone wrote:From an artistic standpoint it's excellent. Yours?

All it needs is some carnival music to make it perfect.

I could only dream of doing that. Just saw it on google images and decided it fit the theme.

Post #1376 » by **mpharris36** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:35 am

AllanHoustonFan wrote:LMFAO

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Denver still prefers NJ's package to NY's increased offer, because "They think picks have more value than the players," league source says.

Asshola is right. They do want more from us which is where you gotta draw the line and walk away from the table.

this is where melo comes in. I have kept my mouth shut. the knicks increased there offer. it is fair enough. I am playing for the knicks

NYman15 · Post #1377 » by **NYman15** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:36 am

AlexKennedyNBA Donnie Walsh and Masai Uriji were on conference call, but their roles have diminished. Source says owners have stepped in to get this done.
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AlexKennedyNBA James Dolan and Josh Kroenke are extremely involved in these talks. One source went so far as to say that the owners are calling the shots.
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AlexKennedyNBA Earlier talks had included Landry Fields instead of Danilo Gallinari. However, Denver is pushing for Gallinari and New York is cooperating.
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AlexKennedyNBA That's more than New York wanted to include, but source confirms that the Knicks are now offering "just about everything" to get this done.
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AlexKennedyNBA Knicks are offering Gallinari, Felton, Chandler, Curry and a 1st for Anthony, Billups and fillers. Source confirms @SpearsNBAYahoo's report.
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Future Soldier · Post #1378 » by **Future Soldier** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:36 am

Melo ain't signing with the Nets. It's not gonna happen. He knows he's gonna be a Knick by the deadline, one way or another. Whether the trade includes Gallo or not. He's gonna shoot down that NJ meeting, and Denver will have no choice but to take what we offer.

AllanHoustonFan · Post #1379 » by **AllanHoustonFan** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:36 am

mpharris36 wrote:
AllanHoustonFan wrote:LMFAO

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Denver still prefers NJ's package to NY's increased offer, because "They think picks have more value than the players," league source says.

Asshola is right. They do want more from us which is where you gotta draw the line and walk away from the table.

this is where melo comes in. I have kept my mouth shut. the knicks increased there offer. it is fair enough. I am playing for the knicks

I agree. It's time for Melo to actually flex his leverage.

aveboogie7 · Post #1380 » by **aveboogie7** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:36 am

haterade wrote:
aveboogie7 wrote:
sol537 wrote:I see it's rumored to be...

NY Gets: 'Melo, Billups, Carter
Den Gets: Gallo, Chandler, Curry, Felton, 1st via Min, cap relief
Min Gets: Curry, Randolph

hefty price... can't know for sure if we're overpaying or not simply because we don't know for sure if 'Melo was willing to go to FA. If he isn't, which I assume he's not, then from a pure talent perspective, we win the deal. We get our two superstars, but we give up a lot in the process.

Make that deal ASAP.

Follow that up by somehow finding another defensive big and backup PG and the Knicks are contenders THIS YEAR.

The Knicks can only offer what Miami is offering, if you were a defensive big would you play with 3 all-stars or 2?

Knicks already have two defensive bigs, and could potentially add Przybilla. Part of the reason why I'm sure AZ, Walker, Rautins and Mason jr aren't part of a larger deal to offer the Nuggests more cap relief. I'm certain if they added those contracts so as to take back a contract like Balkman's, the Nuggets would be more receptive to the latest offer.