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Around the nba part 6

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Re: Around the nba part 6 

Post#1361 » by Rasho Brezec » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:56 pm

GoodAzzGame_NYK wrote:would it be too much to ask some of the posters (we know who they are) to actually post good things about the team when they are warrented???


Yes. You can't dictate when and what people are allowed to post so you can sleep better at night. If you can't handle that, put them on ignore like I do.
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Re: Around the nba part 6 

Post#1362 » by god shammgod » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:05 pm

mpharris you're looking at this the wrong way. if those guys didn't do what they do, who would we relentlessly mock on here ? and after all, isn't that what this place is all about ? god bless america.
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Re: Around the nba part 6 

Post#1363 » by GONYK » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:08 pm

god shammgod wrote:mpharris you're looking at this the wrong way. if those guys didn't do what they do, who would we relentlessly mock on here ? and after all, isn't that what this place is all about ? god bless america.


There can be no heroes if there are no villains :lol:
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Re: Around the nba part 6 

Post#1364 » by Falstaffxx » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:11 pm

A little ambivalence befits those whose team has screwed them over for a decade.
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Re: Around the nba part 6 

Post#1365 » by j4remi » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:11 pm

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god shammgod wrote:mpharris you're looking at this the wrong way. if those guys didn't do what they do, who would we relentlessly mock on here ? and after all, isn't that what this place is all about ? god bless america.


There can be no heroes if there are no villains :lol:


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Re: Around the nba part 6 

Post#1366 » by GONYK » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:13 pm

Falstaffxx wrote:A little ambivalence befits those whose team has screwed them over for a decade.


To be fair, the Knicks screwed themselves over for a decade. It's up to you whether to take it personal or not.
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Re: Around the nba part 6 

Post#1367 » by Falstaffxx » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:20 pm

GONYK wrote:
Falstaffxx wrote:A little ambivalence befits those whose team has screwed them over for a decade.


To be fair, the Knicks screwed themselves over for a decade. It's up to you whether to take it personal or not.


I can't argue with that.
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Re: Around the nba part 6 

Post#1368 » by K_ick_God » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:20 pm

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Falstaffxx wrote:A little ambivalence befits those whose team has screwed them over for a decade.


To be fair, the Knicks screwed themselves over for a decade. It's up to you whether to take it personal or not.



I really can't blame any fan for being disgruntled. There's still no way they should have given up Jeremy. To go from Jeremy's run to handing the team over to JR and Felton -- talent aside -- was wrong.

But the Knicks are having a good season and that's a good thing.

I will always think they went in the wrong direction UNLESS we really push the Heat in a playoff series or at least get to the ECF and don't crap out of that series. A good playoff run will at least partially absolve Dolan of his mistake. We'll know it when we see it.

I have to be honest that I'm with Falstafxx that I don't see it happening. I think JR and the team will disappoint us next month. I think there are at least even odds they lose first round. But it also wouldn't absolutely shock me if they do make a playoff push. I'd bet against it but not with my heart, just with my head.

I'm a Knicks fan, not a fan of my opinions. I chose not to watch last night but when I saw Felton's good statline and Lin's quiet game (not a bad game but a quiet game), I got a sense of relief/happiness because for me, Knicks > me.
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Re: Around the nba part 6 

Post#1369 » by Rasho Brezec » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:27 pm

Marbury 2.0 proving why he's a career loser once again. I'd take Jordan Hill over him 10 times out of 10.

"This is the third time I've been benched in the second half and it hasn't been under (former coach Scott) Skiles," Jennings said after the game. "You always want to be out there to help your team.

"I don't see any all-stars in this locker room so I think everybody should be held accountable, like anybody else. There's no maxed-out players in this locker room; there's no all-stars. So don't try to put me on a pedestal and just give everybody else the freedom to do whatever they want."

Jennings added that he feels as though he's being singled out.

"Of course," he said. "This is the third time this has happened. We had a sluggish start but we still had a chance to win it. It was there for us to take."
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Re: Around the nba part 6 

Post#1370 » by K_ick_God » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:31 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:Marbury 2.0 proving why he's a career loser once again. I'd take Jordan Hill over him 10 times out of 10.

"This is the third time I've been benched in the second half and it hasn't been under (former coach Scott) Skiles," Jennings said after the game. "You always want to be out there to help your team.

"I don't see any all-stars in this locker room so I think everybody should be held accountable, like anybody else. There's no maxed-out players in this locker room; there's no all-stars. So don't try to put me on a pedestal and just give everybody else the freedom to do whatever they want."

Jennings added that he feels as though he's being singled out.

"Of course," he said. "This is the third time this has happened. We had a sluggish start but we still had a chance to win it. It was there for us to take."



I'd take Ty Lawson over both of them.

Rubio was 5. He's considerably worse than Lawson, Curry and Holiday.
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Re: Around the nba part 6 

Post#1371 » by j4remi » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:34 pm

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GONYK wrote:
Falstaffxx wrote:A little ambivalence befits those whose team has screwed them over for a decade.


To be fair, the Knicks screwed themselves over for a decade. It's up to you whether to take it personal or not.



I really can't blame any fan for being disgruntled. There's still no way they should have given up Jeremy. To go from Jeremy's run to handing the team over to JR and Felton -- talent aside -- was wrong.

But the Knicks are having a good season and that's a good thing.

I will always think they went in the wrong direction UNLESS we really push the Heat in a playoff series or at least get to the ECF and don't crap out of that series. A good playoff run will at least partially absolve Dolan of his mistake. We'll know it when we see it.

I have to be honest that I'm with Falstafxx that I don't see it happening. I think JR and the team will disappoint us next month. I think there are at least even odds they lose first round. But it also wouldn't absolutely shock me if they do make a playoff push. I'd bet against it but not with my heart, just with my head.

I'm a Knicks fan, not a fan of my opinions. I chose not to watch last night but when I saw Felton's good statline and Lin's quiet game (not a bad game but a quiet game), I got a sense of relief/happiness because for me, Knicks > me.


As a gambler, if you gave me even odds on the Knicks in the first round, I'd put at least 100 down on it. The Knicks aren't losing a series with home court advantage unless injuries take out two MORE players at least imho.
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Re: Around the nba part 6 

Post#1372 » by Rasho Brezec » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:35 pm

Put Rubio on any of those teams and none of them are worse than before.
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Re: Around the nba part 6 

Post#1373 » by j4remi » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:35 pm

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I'd take Ty Lawson over both of them.

Rubio was 5. He's considerably worse than Lawson, Curry and Holiday.


He's fresh off a knee injury and those guys have been playing NBA comp for longer despite being in the same draft...not really a fair comparison...plus Rubio is the best pure PG of them all right now.
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Re: Around the nba part 6 

Post#1374 » by GONYK » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:39 pm

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Rasho Brezec wrote:Marbury 2.0 proving why he's a career loser once again. I'd take Jordan Hill over him 10 times out of 10.

"This is the third time I've been benched in the second half and it hasn't been under (former coach Scott) Skiles," Jennings said after the game. "You always want to be out there to help your team.

"I don't see any all-stars in this locker room so I think everybody should be held accountable, like anybody else. There's no maxed-out players in this locker room; there's no all-stars. So don't try to put me on a pedestal and just give everybody else the freedom to do whatever they want."

Jennings added that he feels as though he's being singled out.

"Of course," he said. "This is the third time this has happened. We had a sluggish start but we still had a chance to win it. It was there for us to take."



I'd take Ty Lawson over both of them.

Rubio was 5. He's considerably worse than Lawson, Curry and Holiday.


Not as a pure PG he isn't. He is by far the best in that aspect.
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Re: Around the nba part 6 

Post#1375 » by K_ick_God » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:39 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:Put Rubio on any of those teams and none of them are worse than before.



Pardon the bluntness but that is total BS. I'm sure the Nuggets would be doing great with Rubio clanking shots all over the place. Lawson and Miller virtually carry that team. Without Lawson's scoring, they are pretty mediocre, as we've seen lately actually.

I love a passing PG but you need to score. Warriors would be much worse without Curry. Sixers already stink but Holiday (of whom I'm not a huge fan) is having an excellent season. Silly to compare Rubio to Holiday right now as anything but a total landslide.

Sorry but that was a really ridiculous comment.
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Re: Around the nba part 6 

Post#1376 » by K_ick_God » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:42 pm

... This pure PG stuff is overrated. Yeah it matters. But not when you're not at an NBA level making shots.

Rubio's playmaking is not as great as you guys think. He's flashy and smart, but Lawson is good enough at making plays and running a team that his offense makes him by FAR the better player.

Pure PG my butt. Give me the better player and it is clear that not only are those guys all way better than Rubio at this moment, but they are very likely IMO to be better in years to come.

Rubio is overrated and will never be a good enough scorer to be a great player (Lawson is near great) and there's really never (not once) been a playmaker so great in the NBA that his offense didn't matter.

Until we see more, he's a bad pick. As was John Wall.
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Re: Around the nba part 6 

Post#1377 » by mpharris36 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:42 pm

god shammgod wrote:mpharris you're looking at this the wrong way. if those guys didn't do what they do, who would we relentlessly mock on here ? and after all, isn't that what this place is all about ? god bless america.


:lol:

i guess your right...

i do like mocking people

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Re: Around the nba part 6 

Post#1378 » by Fat Kat » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:47 pm

KnicksGod wrote:... This pure PG stuff is overrated. Yeah it matters. But not when you're not at an NBA level making shots.

Rubio's playmaking is not as great as you guys think. He's flashy and smart, but Lawson is good enough at making plays and running a team that his offense makes him by FAR the better player.

Pure PG my butt. Give me the better player and it is clear that not only are those guys all way better than Rubio at this moment, but they are very likely IMO to be better in years to come.

Rubio is overrated and will never be a good enough scorer to be a great player (Lawson is near great) and there's really never (not once) been a playmaker so great in the NBA that his offense didn't matter.

Until we see more, he's a bad pick. As was John Wall.


Agreed. His shooting cripples that team.
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Re: Around the nba part 6 

Post#1379 » by Rasho Brezec » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:47 pm

Put Rubio in Denver and he gets Corey Brewer a bigger contract than he deserves and makes Javale an allstar.

Put Rubio in Golden State and they have the best offense in the league.

Put Rubio in Philly and they still suck, but Spencer Hawes would look like a starter.
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Re: Around the nba part 6 

Post#1380 » by K_ick_God » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:47 pm

Fat Kat wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:... This pure PG stuff is overrated. Yeah it matters. But not when you're not at an NBA level making shots.

Rubio's playmaking is not as great as you guys think. He's flashy and smart, but Lawson is good enough at making plays and running a team that his offense makes him by FAR the better player.

Pure PG my butt. Give me the better player and it is clear that not only are those guys all way better than Rubio at this moment, but they are very likely IMO to be better in years to come.

Rubio is overrated and will never be a good enough scorer to be a great player (Lawson is near great) and there's really never (not once) been a playmaker so great in the NBA that his offense didn't matter.

Until we see more, he's a bad pick. As was John Wall.


Agreed. His shooting cripples that team.



He can't really drive either. His drive sucks.

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