MeloDrama Part V

[VirginiaKnickFan]

Why do I think of this when I hear the term supermax.

[Red Vines]

supermax supermax supermax....

[nyk4life12]

Sounds like he's coming back, so the Lakers are back to having no players or coaches or talent, nor a clear GM, and the Bulls are left with some confused lawyers, stray dogs and a knee surgery to be named later.

The Lakers would be a good team to S&T with though. Gasol, Randle, and 1st pick which will no doubt be a lottery. Possibly another future pick as well, if they want him that badly

lakers don't have to s&t they can sign melo outright

[GONYK]

Sounds like he's coming back, so the Lakers are back to having no players or coaches or talent, nor a clear GM, and the Bulls are left with some confused lawyers, stray dogs and a knee surgery to be named later.

The Lakers would be a good team to S&T with though. Gasol, Randle, and 1st pick which will no doubt be a lottery. Possibly another future pick as well, if they want him that badly

You clearly don't understand how this works

[suicidedeuce]

There's obviously a different max for different players depending on years in the league, etc. The top category people call the super-max. Like here: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/whe ... o-the-max/

Of course there is.

I just explained that to you.

0-6 years in the league it's 25% of the specially calculated cap figure.

7-9 it's 30%

10+ it's 35%.

OR 105% of your last salary.

But Melo's salary is NOT the highest you can qualify for in the NBA.

If Stoudemire had opted out of his contract, he would have qualified for a higher salary than Melo.

Kobe Bryant made $30m this past season.

So calling Melo's max the Kobe or supermax suggesting it's the highest salary you can get inthe NBA is not only superfluous, it's misleading.

I don't know about STAT but Kobe's huge contract was before the new CBA. I don't think it's misleading, it's the top category.

That's what "max" means.

[Thugger HBC]

There's obviously a different max for different players depending on years in the league, etc. The top category people call the super-max. Like here: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/whe ... o-the-max/

Of course there is.

I just explained that to you.

0-6 years in the league it's 25% of the specially calculated cap figure.

7-9 it's 30%

10+ it's 35%.

OR 105% of your last salary.

But Melo's salary is NOT the highest you can qualify for in the NBA.

If Stoudemire had opted out of his contract, he would have qualified for a higher salary than Melo.

Kobe Bryant made $30m this past season.

So calling Melo's max the Kobe or supermax suggesting it's the highest salary you can get inthe NBA is not only superfluous, it's misleading.

I don't know about STAT but Kobe's huge contract was before the new CBA. I don't think it's misleading, it's the top category.

Melo's was signed before the new CBA as well.

honestly dont see the debate here, the term didnt originate on realgm.

[sogood]

Sounds like he's coming back, so the Lakers are back to having no players or coaches or talent, nor a clear GM, and the Bulls are left with some confused lawyers, stray dogs and a knee surgery to be named later.

The Lakers would be a good team to S&T with though. Gasol, Randle, and 1st pick which will no doubt be a lottery. Possibly another future pick as well, if they want him that badly

or you know they could just sign him with their available cap space without giving up anything at all.

[liknicks7]

Carmelo Anthony is strongly considering a move to LA, according to reports. @MarioNBCLA has details now on NBC4
9:37pm - 6 Jul 14

[LJ4pointplay]

Melo did not take a discount in 2011 but instead signed a max extension so his 2013-2014 salary was $21.4m 105% of that is $22.5m.

That's the ONLY his max is higher than James'. But he doesn't qualify for some special category of salary.

Lebron would qualify too then for the super-max (it is commonly called that) if he didn't take the discount. It's the very most you can make in the league which is why it has been termed that.

I know it's commonly called that, and it's commonly redundant.

I think people also commonly misunderstand how max's are calculated. There is no "Kobemax" or "supermax."

There is just the max. Not qualifier is needed.

As was pointed out, the max contract is greater depending on how long you've been in the league. Also, if you've been in the league for less than 7 years, then your max contract is greater depending on accolades such as all-star appearances.

Article 2, Section 7, (a) of the CBA if you want more information.

The supermax, or kobemax, is very effective shorthand to signal that "max" contract is one in the 20+M/year range instead of the 15M/year range. I think most everyone understands that. Unsure why you have a problem with it?

[ibraheim718]

I'll say it - these guys with their offseason sagas are kind of clowns.

It's become so stupid.

[ibraheim718]

Sounds like he's coming back, so the Lakers are back to having no players or coaches or talent, nor a clear GM, and the Bulls are left with some confused lawyers, lost dogs and a knee surgery to be named later.

And yet both of those franchises have celebrated 16 championships combined since we've celebrated our last.

Yeaaaah but we got next.

Chances are really good that none of the three franchises (LA,NYK, CHi) will win one in the next decade.

[moocow007]

Sounds like he's coming back, so the Lakers are back to having no players or coaches or talent, nor a clear GM, and the Bulls are left with some confused lawyers, stray dogs and a knee surgery to be named later.

The Lakers would be a good team to S&T with though. Gasol, Randle, and 1st pick which will no doubt be a lottery. Possibly another future pick as well, if they want him that badly

or you know they could just sign him with their available cap space without giving up anything at all.

To do what? Team up with a 36 year old Bryant to be his Robin for a team with no head coach, no other players other than Randle and a busted Nash who has himself said hes basically done and a owner that hasnt exactly shown hes anything like his dad? And because Kobe is also "super maxed" wont have any real cap to build a team around?

[aq_ua]

I'll say it - these guys with their offseason sagas are kind of clowns.

It's become so stupid.

This is why soap operas continue to exist - people have an addiction to pointless human drama.

[LJ4pointplay]

Carmelo Anthony is strongly considering a move to LA, according to reports. @MarioNBCLA has details now on NBC4
9:37pm - 6 Jul 14

LOL, I'm sure that dude aint breaking any news on this front Just going to talk about what we already know.

[sogood]

The Lakers would be a good team to S&T with though. Gasol, Randle, and 1st pick which will no doubt be a lottery. Possibly another future pick as well, if they want him that badly

or you know they could just sign him with their available cap space without giving up anything at all.

To do what? Team up with a 36 year old Bryant as his Robin for a team with no head coach, no other players other than Randle and a busted Nash who has himself said hes basically done and a owner that hasnt exactly shown hes anything like his dad?

Never said it was a good idea. Replying to the dude who think the Lakers needs to do a sign and trade with us to get him.

[dablackprodigy]

like i said earlier this worse than 2010.

#INPHILWETRUST!!!!

Stop with this gimmick man

Lmao he signed up just to tell you this

Honestly I did Before I was just lurking but man that was urking me

Fellas hopefully tomorrow will be the end of all this

[DowNY]

Carmelo Anthony is strongly considering a move to LA, according to reports. @MarioNBCLA has details now on NBC4
9:37pm - 6 Jul 14

Just a recap of what is out there already.

[suicidedeuce]

Lebron would qualify too then for the super-max (it is commonly called that) if he didn't take the discount. It's the very most you can make in the league which is why it has been termed that.

I know it's commonly called that, and it's commonly redundant.

I think people also commonly misunderstand how max's are calculated. There is no "Kobemax" or "supermax."

There is just the max. Not qualifier is needed.

As was pointed out, the max contract is greater depending on how long you've been in the league. Also, if you've been in the league for less than 7 years, then your max contract is greater depending on accolades such as all-star appearances.

Article 2, Section 7, (a) of the CBA if you want more information.

The supermax, or kobemax, is very effective shorthand to signal that "max" contract is one in the 20+M/year range instead of the 15M/year range. I think most everyone understands that. Unsure why you have a problem with it?

Because I think very often its used a a derogatory qualifier and it's often steeped in misunderstanding of how and why it's calculated, as was demonstrated by the exchange between Red Vines and I.

Everyone knows Melo's MAX starts at $22m+. There is no context in which we need the qualifier.

'Max' is more than suffiicient.

[gothamknicks]

Carmelo Anthony is strongly considering a move to LA, according to reports. @MarioNBCLA has details now on NBC4
9:37pm - 6 Jul 14

And there it is

[HighRyzer83]

Sounds like he's coming back, so the Lakers are back to having no players or coaches or talent, nor a clear GM, and the Bulls are left with some confused lawyers, stray dogs and a knee surgery to be named later.

The Lakers would be a good team to S&T with though. Gasol, Randle, and 1st pick which will no doubt be a lottery. Possibly another future pick as well, if they want him that badly

or you know they could just sign him with their available cap space without giving up anything at all.

The most they can do is $96. They cannot offer him $129 as the knicks can in an S&T.