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MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude

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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1361 » by LJ4pointplay » Wed Jul 9, 2014 1:03 am

kosmovitelli wrote:
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Why would there be an investigation ?

RTichard Jefferson opted out of his contract in 2010 and his option year was Worth $15 million ! And it was after the worst season of his career. There was no way he could recoup that money unless he had a pre-arranged deal with the Spurs. Before free agency, he explained he opted out because there was a looming lock-out and he hoped to secure a four year $40 million deal. People laughed at the time but guess what ? After the moratorium he signed a four-year deal Worth $39 million with the Spurs...and noone complained ! No investigation...It will be the same for Wade if it happens.


Well are you asking me this question with or without the condition that I included in my statement?

I don't find it likely that the NBA would start an investigation sua esponte. However, if someone important enough made a public (or possibly even a private) fuss about it, I do not see how the NBA ignores a situation that (if true) is so clearly in violation of the letter and the spirit of the provision.



Just like Richard Jefferson situation, exécutives will believe there was a pre-arranged deal but noone will complain officially (because they've probably done the same thing at some point). Pre-arranged deals with their own free agents usually don't raise much attention, they're considered almost part of the business. Especially when it comes to players like Wade and Jefferson. Often injured players who are almost done but overpaid by their original team.

And other NBA executives have taken note, as ESPN's John Hollinger explains:

[The Jefferson re-signing] raised eyebrows in front offices around the league, many of which suspected that there was a prearranged deal between the two parties. [...]

That said, we have no smoking gun that there was any kind of prearranged deal between the Spurs and Jefferson. We don't even have a smokeless gun. All we have is the circumstantial evidence above, as well as two other pieces of information:

1. The Spurs don't sign bad contracts.

2. This is the worst contract of the summer.




Hey, I don't disagree. That's why I made a conditional statement, lol. But there are ways you could distinguish the situations that I am sure I do not need to explain to you. Also, there is a new commissioner and Riley, Wade, and the Heat, might not be the most liked group around the league.

But again, I made a conditional statement for a reason.
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1362 » by aromeoj » Wed Jul 9, 2014 1:03 am

knickabocker88 wrote:Carl, I'll name my sons after you if this goes down


You would have to name them Robert Randolph...he is Carl's source
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1363 » by Jay10 » Wed Jul 9, 2014 1:03 am

Starksfor3 wrote:This leaked too early. Some rat GM is going to screw this up for us.


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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1364 » by AmazingJason » Wed Jul 9, 2014 1:04 am

knickabocker88 wrote:Carl, I'll name my sons after you if this goes down


F*ck that. I would never name my kid Carl. I don't want to think about The Walking Dead every time I say my son's name.
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1365 » by AllanHoustonFan » Wed Jul 9, 2014 1:04 am

Starksfor3 wrote:This leaked too early. Some rat GM is going to screw this up for us.

Carl did say things are about to start rolling though....the timing of this article is crazy.
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1366 » by kane » Wed Jul 9, 2014 1:04 am

Carl2680 wrote:Carmelo is waiting for the Knicks to make a trade in order to commit.


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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1367 » by bfpri » Wed Jul 9, 2014 1:05 am

aromeoj wrote:http://nypost.com/2014/07/08/decisions-to-be-made-before-lebron-could-join-melo-in-ny/


doesn't look good guys, in other words, whether Melo comes to Ny depends on whether we can clear capspace to get Lebron.

I guess Melo is gone :-? Though I don't really care much.
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1368 » by Ray Finkle » Wed Jul 9, 2014 1:05 am

The problem with the dream of trading Amare and Bargs is that, considering all of the assets you'd have to give up to get it done (Shump, THJR, etc), you'd need a verbal commitment from Lebron beforehand. And I highly doubt Phil has received that from Lebron's camp. Phil simply can't afford to make those trades and then get shunned by Lebron. He would need to be sure, beforehand. That's the biggest reason I cant' see any of this happening.
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1369 » by Starksfor3 » Wed Jul 9, 2014 1:05 am

AmazingJason wrote:
knickabocker88 wrote:Carl, I'll name my sons after you if this goes down


F*ck that. I would never name my kid Carl. I don't want to think about The Walking Dead every time I say my son's name.


But think how fun it would be to say CORRRRRRAAALLLLLLL
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1370 » by H_20 » Wed Jul 9, 2014 1:05 am

aromeoj wrote:
knickabocker88 wrote:Carl, I'll name my sons after you if this goes down


You would have to name them Robert Randolph...he is Carl's source


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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1371 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Jul 9, 2014 1:05 am

knickabocker88 wrote:Carl, I'll name my sons after you if this goes down



I think 2680 is going to be a little pissed you named him that. Carl won't mind though. :lol:
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1372 » by DowNY » Wed Jul 9, 2014 1:06 am

Starksfor3 wrote:This leaked too early. Some rat GM is going to screw this up for us.

That's what I'm saying. If this leaked tomorrow around this time then it would have a better shot but giving GMs more than a day & a half is dangerous.
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1373 » by Carl2680 » Wed Jul 9, 2014 1:06 am

Melodrama 6.6.....
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1374 » by Starksfor3 » Wed Jul 9, 2014 1:06 am

I really hope Phil has the trades made and Lebron in tow or this **** will fall apart fast...
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1375 » by bfpri » Wed Jul 9, 2014 1:07 am

Carl2680 wrote:I told you guys about the 6+7 hint.


carl my man, you know that trying to do something and actually succeeding are 2 different things right?
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1376 » by Deeeez Knicks » Wed Jul 9, 2014 1:07 am

Clearing all that cap space isn't going to be easy. A lot of teams would love to drop $30mil. Going to take a lot if its even possible

and another fu to dolan/grunnie/caa for messing it up with bargs and wasting the amnesty
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1377 » by Jose7 » Wed Jul 9, 2014 1:07 am

Carl2680 wrote:Melodrama 6.6.....


what he said
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1378 » by deadwinged » Wed Jul 9, 2014 1:07 am

bfpri wrote:
aromeoj wrote:http://nypost.com/2014/07/08/decisions-to-be-made-before-lebron-could-join-melo-in-ny/


doesn't look good guys, in other words, whether Melo comes to Ny depends on whether we can clear capspace to get Lebron.

I guess Melo is gone :-? Though I don't really care much.

Melo isn't leaving if Phil can get you guys Gasol. I think that's the most likely scenario. The LeBron stuff is a pipe dream. Not that Phil won't at least try.
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1379 » by AmazingJason » Wed Jul 9, 2014 1:07 am

Looking back, the Tyson trade is genius. We kept thinking about how we had way too many guards; well, we're likely going to use Shumpert and Hardaway to shed Amare and Bargnani. Even without them, the cupboard isn't bare. We have Larkin, Early and Ellington ready to take their place. Plus JR is a starting level SG.
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Re: MeloDrama 6.5: The Prelude 

Post#1380 » by SoCalKnickFan » Wed Jul 9, 2014 1:07 am

Soooo....

Melo: I wanna be a Knick but I ain't doing another season with Stat and Bargnani. Lose em and I'll sign.

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