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official Melo trade speculation - thread 2

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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1361 » by god shammgod » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:26 pm

K P 6 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:how are people mad that melo asked for a buyout ? that's what you all wanted a couple of pages ago. there has been no trade to a favorable location presented him. what do want him to do ? go to sacramento ? you're not being for serious.


1. You dont know what trades were presented.
2. Off course he would want a buyout. He gets his money while screwing the team royally for the second time.


right. like they wouldn't pass it along to the press that melo refused a trade to a contender.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1362 » by Knox » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:26 pm

BklyntoTNeck wrote:No crime in him not waiving his NTC just as its no crime to have him come off the bench in a reduced role and Phil rejecting all buyout approaches. What's best for the team is him being traded. I'm a Knicks fan, not a Melo rider. Force him to waive the NTC or reduce his role until he does.


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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1363 » by god shammgod » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:28 pm

King of Canada wrote:I'm ok with a buyout ONLY if he's leaving a lot of money on the table. I don't want to pay Melo really close to his full contract and let him walk to a contendor for nothing.


the full amount counts against the cap no matter what. so what's the difference ? all of a sudden people are worried about james dolan's money ?
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1364 » by Sark » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:28 pm

god shammgod wrote:how are people mad that melo asked for a buyout ? that's what you all wanted a couple of pages ago. there has been no trade to a favorable location presented him. what do want him to do ? go to sacramento ? you're not being for serious.


I'm ecstatic about it. We finally have a resolution on the way. Or at least the process is starting.

Now it's just about positioning. Phil has the upper hand here, but he needs to be fair to help his image, and not look like the bad guy again. I'd give Melo the 2017/8 contract amount + kicker, but nothing for the 2018/9 player option year. I think that's entirely fair for both sides.
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Post#1365 » by Greenie » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:28 pm

WTF?

Phil is playing. He doesn't want Melo gone.

Oh lawd. Put Melo in the KP boat.
He's trying to scare them straight.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1367 » by F N 11 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:29 pm

If you rather keep Melo and fire Phil Jackson after he is committed to rebuild. Your basketball IQ is terrible. Did Phil try to put guys around Melo. I guess yeah. That was wack. Guess what!! He's starting from scratch.

"we want to build our kids"

Yall hear that and still want Melo to stay? I just cant.
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Post#1368 » by blueNorange » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:30 pm

EchelonNYK wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:Melo should counter with not waiving his NTC for on one. Let's see who blinks first.


The way people ride for Melo makes me believe some of you would physically fight someone over him. I don't get it :lol:.

hey melo has done a lot for the knicks, like that time he
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1369 » by Traveyknicks23 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:31 pm

Greenie wrote:WTF?

Phil is playing. He doesn't want Melo gone.

Oh lawd. Put Melo in the KP boat.
He's trying to scare them straight.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL



Why would you let melo walk for nothing?

I get you on that anti Phil but na
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1370 » by god shammgod » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:31 pm

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Then he can stay on the team and embrace the rebuild. If Melo's NTC is a part of the problem with moving him. Phil should not even entertain a buyout. We get nothing out of it


he never asked to leave. phil keeps talking about he wants to see him compete at this age and go somewhere else. people here are just making up scenarios.


If he is asking for a buyout then more then likely he wants to leave


they keep telling him he's not wanted :lol:
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1371 » by FreeSpiritNY » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:31 pm

The only way I do a buy out of it doesn't include next year otherwise I play hard ball and call his bluff and revisit it at the deadline. Will it hurt us yes are we winning anything in he next 5 year either way no. I'd rather not look like a team that just keeps buying players out and be stomped all over. Let's actually make it known that if you don't play right then you'll be treated that way. I'm tired of these play acting entitled likes it's there team. You get paid millions of dollars and you receive get fame and to travel. The least you can do is buy into a system and play defense.

We are a known team that once you get paid you can run rampid and do what you want. I'm actually all in favor for Phil playing hard ball.

We need an identity that if you come here it's hard work and no playing around.

I've been saying this for 3 year screw Carmelo even got suspended a few times for it.

Now I can laugh at the people who suspended me over it because now there I'm the same train of getting rid of him.

I knew it from day one we resigned him it was going to be all bad. I was hoping it was a regular deal so we can atleast trade him. But nope we are the Knicks and had to give him the extra.

It's like our fo operates like we're a small market team .

We are New York a big market team and really need to start acting like it. Players should take less to play here not more.

Players should get shorter contracts. Not longer.
It's like ass backwards.

Dolan and the fo has to be the most in incompetent rich person I've ever read or done research in thy has owned a franchise. He bought this team like 16 years ago and had only 1 good season.

Dolan also needs to sell this team.
How do you go about playing in a band while the NBA draft is happening. Atleast be excited and there for your team with out and decision making.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1372 » by ChaosHamster » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:31 pm

blueNorange wrote:
EchelonNYK wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:Melo should counter with not waiving his NTC for on one. Let's see who blinks first.


The way people ride for Melo makes me believe some of you would physically fight someone over him. I don't get it :lol:.

hey melo has done a lot for the knicks, like that time he


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Post#1373 » by duetta » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:32 pm

I'd rather have Anthony than Rose.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1374 » by Traveyknicks23 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:32 pm

K P 6 wrote:If you rather keep Melo and fire Phil Jackson after he is committed to rebuild. Your basketball IQ is terrible. Did Phil try to put guys around Melo. I guess yeah. That was wack. Guess what!! He's starting from scratch.

"we want to build our kids"

Yall hear that and still want Melo to stay? I just cant.


So we suppose to let this dude walk for nothing ? Wtf
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1375 » by JohnStarksTheDunk » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:32 pm

K P 6 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:how are people mad that melo asked for a buyout ? that's what you all wanted a couple of pages ago. there has been no trade to a favorable location presented him. what do want him to do ? go to sacramento ? you're not being for serious.


1. You dont know what trades were presented.
2. Off course he would want a buyout. He gets his money while screwing the team royally for the second time.


I honestly don't think that screwing us over is something that he wants or cares about. He just wants the luxury of being able to choose where he plays, and he can't really do that through trade because the destination team would need to be willing to offer a deal that benefits the Knicks.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1376 » by SelbyCobra » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:32 pm

There's a bit of misinterpretation of what a NTC actually means. It doesn't mean a productive player can force a buyout or that management has to throw their hands up and bend to his wishes. It also doesn't mean they have to leave him alone going forward. It simply means he has the right to reject any agreed upon trades that involve his contract. He doesn't "deserve" anything outside that ability - nor does it give him any additional power.

It's analogous to a builder coming in to a rural area and buying up land for a development, and everyone sells except one owner. That owner is absolutely within his rights to keep his land and to stay. Good for him. But it doesn't mean he can halt the project, and he usually ends up cutting off his nose to spite his face. He can be as defiant as possible, making all the demands he wants to try and get things exactly the way he wants them, but he doesn't hold all the cards - just the ones involving his specific plot of land.

Understanding this is all business, there's no surprise (and no sympathy) when the home owner ends up like this:

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I mean, good for him on some level, but I guarantee you he's a lot less well off and with a lot more unnecessary vitriol than his former neighbors who saw the writing on the wall and moved on despite not really wanting to leave.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1377 » by Greenie » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:32 pm

Sark wrote:
god shammgod wrote:how are people mad that melo asked for a buyout ? that's what you all wanted a couple of pages ago. there has been no trade to a favorable location presented him. what do want him to do ? go to sacramento ? you're not being for serious.


I'm ecstatic about it. We finally have a resolution on the way. Or at least the process is starting.

Now it's just about positioning. Phil has the upper hand here, but he needs to be fair to help his image, and not look like the bad guy again. I'd give Melo the 2017/8 contract amount + kicker, but nothing for the 2018/9 player option year. I think that's entirely fair for both sides.

Nope. Run the full contract.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1378 » by DaGawd » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:33 pm

I'm not even mad at Melo from an objective standpoint tho...Phil tried to drag his name thru the dirt and took every opportunity to **** on him when he could to drive home the point he wants him out. If that was me I'd make Phil's ass pony up and give me my cake so I can eat it too.. This whole thing is a ****
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1379 » by NoLayupRule » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:34 pm

the idea of buying melo out is insane

Im stunned at this league sometimes

Butler, the best 2 way SG in the league, traded for a couple of whatevers
Wade and Rondo being bought out so they can sign with clev probably

and were supposed to buy out a perennial all star so he can sign with the cavs too?

sickening

this league is gross

why bother with the regular season even?
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1380 » by god shammgod » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:34 pm

"i hate melo. he sucks. he's ruining the team. i want to rebuild with the kids. i want to tank properly." "oh he wants his money, he's staying". how do those work together ? lol

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