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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1361 » by dakomish23 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:10 pm

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shtolky wrote:Frank is still on the team, right? What's with the conspiracy theories? I mean I know it's RealGM but still. You think Mills is actually going to say "wow, Frank looks good now, but he's a Phil guy GOTTA TRADE HIM NOW!!" That's crazy. The real issue is finding minutes for him on a team with actual depth. Good thing is he's under team control for at least two seasons and again, is only 21. Crazy to think he's still a baby when it feels like he's been on the team for years.


Playing Jack and Mudiay over him, only to let them walk for retirement or small money, isn't a conspiracy theory.

He's not in the cards unless he goes nuclear and then Steve Compete Mills is forced to play him.

To be real here frank had his chance to start early and if you can't get starting job from jack, session, mudiay, and burke then you don't deserve to start that competition in front frank wasn't that hard.


Cmon man. We were bad and he’s a kid. You have to go through the growing pains with most kids. Most kids aren’t as game ready as guys who’ve been in the league for years.
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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1362 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:10 pm

Swish1906 wrote:Yeah im kind of annoyed of franks good game. Would love to get him. Doncic/Wright/Brunson/Frank would be a perfect mix at the guard positions.

Too bad we cant deal our 2020 FRP, would trade it Top-10 protected in a heatbeat for Frank.


Don't worry. He'll wind up on the Mavs, next to KP, one way or another. I predicted KP going there months before it happened and always stated Frank would wind up there too, somehow.

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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1363 » by robillionaire » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:11 pm

mpharris36 wrote:The fact this front office has cluttered our roster to the point our 21 developmental lottery pick has no easy path to play and improve makes we question the path of this organization. Rinse wash repeat where 1 year mercenaries are going to take the much needed playing time of our youth in a year we have no shot to make the playoffs.


They were trying to trade him for a 2nd round pick. They don't see him as a player to develop they see him as a player they want to get rid of
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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1364 » by dakomish23 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:12 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:God damn
Read on Twitter


And he shut his ass down.

I'll never get to see him and DSJ together, will I? :noway:

Seth Curry would be a better fit (purely fictional). Frank would be ridiculous next to Harden, would be insane on the Clippers, would also be good on the Spurs as starting PG next to DeRozan, could start next to Trae Young, the Warriors could fit him in. Orlando should like the fit next to Fournier. Let's not overreact, but Dennis Smith doesn't seem like such a great fit due to his own deficiencies (shooting and needs a lot of space to be effective) and tendency to maneuver into bad situations late in the clock.


He can def play on all those teams. Add in ATL DAL PHX.

I still wanna see it. Their in theory projections have always seemed like a great combination.
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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1365 » by dakomish23 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:13 pm

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Swish1906 wrote:Yeah im kind of annoyed of franks good game. Would love to get him. Doncic/Wright/Brunson/Frank would be a perfect mix at the guard positions.

Too bad we cant deal our 2020 FRP, would trade it Top-10 protected in a heatbeat for Frank.


Don't worry. He'll wind up on the Mavs, next to KP, one way or another. I predicted KP going there months before it happened and always stated Frank would wind up there too, somehow.

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Speak it into existence, Buzz. Also send my guys Dotson and WHG there too. Thx xoxo
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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1366 » by taj2133 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:14 pm

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Playing Jack and Mudiay over him, only to let them walk for retirement or small money, isn't a conspiracy theory.

He's not in the cards unless he goes nuclear and then Steve Compete Mills is forced to play him.

To be real here frank had his chance to start early and if you can't get starting job from jack, session, mudiay, and burke then you don't deserve to start that competition in front frank wasn't that hard.


Cmon man. We were bad and he’s a kid. You have to go through the growing pains with most kids. Most kids aren’t as game ready as guys who’ve been in the league for years.

Mudiay and burke were fighting for there basketball careers not to be over and frank just was okay player that average 8 points and 5 assist just to have the starting job but couldn't do it.
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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1367 » by dakomish23 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:14 pm

remi_222 wrote:If they're smart, the NYK staff absolutely should use Frank the same way he's used when he plays with De Colo which is either him or Nando who runs the ball first. With a ball handler like DSJ, this duo can be very complementary, both of them like each other and they wanna support each other playing good and make sacrifices for the team.
The thing with Frank is he makes his teamates better because he's willing to make them better, and its kinda weird when you play in the NBA to be like that, but Batum, Diaw, Noah, Pietrus, Turiaf, Mahinmi and Fournier are great exemples for him to remain who you are and devellop his all around game always based on DEFENSE !!!


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Post#1368 » by Deeeez Knicks » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:15 pm

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Playing Jack and Mudiay over him, only to let them walk for retirement or small money, isn't a conspiracy theory.

He's not in the cards unless he goes nuclear and then Steve Compete Mills is forced to play him.

To be real here frank had his chance to start early and if you can't get starting job from jack, session, mudiay, and burke then you don't deserve to start that competition in front frank wasn't that hard.


Cmon man. We were bad and he’s a kid. You have to go through the growing pains with most kids. Most kids aren’t as game ready as guys who’ve been in the league for years.


Plus they started him at SF and had him defending wings. It negated his #1 strength of defending pgs and the point of attack. It didnt really make sense.
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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1369 » by taj2133 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:15 pm

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Swish1906 wrote:Yeah im kind of annoyed of franks good game. Would love to get him. Doncic/Wright/Brunson/Frank would be a perfect mix at the guard positions.

Too bad we cant deal our 2020 FRP, would trade it Top-10 protected in a heatbeat for Frank.


Don't worry. He'll wind up on the Mavs, next to KP, one way or another. I predicted KP going there months before it happened and always stated Frank would wind up there too, somehow.

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I doubt they will do trades dallas again not happening.
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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1370 » by dakomish23 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:15 pm

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taj2133 wrote:To be real here frank had his chance to start early and if you can't get starting job from jack, session, mudiay, and burke then you don't deserve to start that competition in front frank wasn't that hard.


Cmon man. We were bad and he’s a kid. You have to go through the growing pains with most kids. Most kids aren’t as game ready as guys who’ve been in the league for years.

Mudiay and burke were fighting for there basketball careers not to be over and frank just was okay player that average 8 points and 5 assist just to have the starting job but couldn't do it.


He also wasnt given anywhere near the leash those guys got
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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1371 » by GONYK » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:15 pm

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taj2133 wrote:To be real here frank had his chance to start early and if you can't get starting job from jack, session, mudiay, and burke then you don't deserve to start that competition in front frank wasn't that hard.


Cmon man. We were bad and he’s a kid. You have to go through the growing pains with most kids. Most kids aren’t as game ready as guys who’ve been in the league for years.

Mudiay and burke were fighting for there basketball careers not to be over and frank just was okay player that average 8 points and 5 assist just to have the starting job but couldn't do it.


A competent organization doesn't prioritize resuscitating the flailing careers of players that won't be retained over developing a 20 yr old lotto pick.
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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1372 » by mpharris36 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:16 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:The fact this front office has cluttered our roster to the point our 21 developmental lottery pick has no easy path to play and improve makes we question the path of this organization. Rinse wash repeat where 1 year mercenaries are going to take the much needed playing time of our youth in a year we have no shot to make the playoffs.


They were trying to trade him for a 2nd round pick. They don't see him as a player to develop they see him as a player they want to get rid of


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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1373 » by dakomish23 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:16 pm

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taj2133 wrote:To be real here frank had his chance to start early and if you can't get starting job from jack, session, mudiay, and burke then you don't deserve to start that competition in front frank wasn't that hard.


Cmon man. We were bad and he’s a kid. You have to go through the growing pains with most kids. Most kids aren’t as game ready as guys who’ve been in the league for years.


Plus they started him at SF and had him defending wings. It negated his #1 strength of defending pgs and the point of attack. It didnt really make sense.


Add it to the list of things that don’t make sense :lol:
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Post#1374 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:16 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:God damn
Read on Twitter


And he shut his ass down.

I'll never get to see him and DSJ together, will I? :noway:


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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1375 » by GONYK » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:17 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:The fact this front office has cluttered our roster to the point our 21 developmental lottery pick has no easy path to play and improve makes we question the path of this organization. Rinse wash repeat where 1 year mercenaries are going to take the much needed playing time of our youth in a year we have no shot to make the playoffs.


They were trying to trade him for a 2nd round pick. They don't see him as a player to develop they see him as a player they want to get rid of


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I don't fully buy this. If they wanted to just be rid of Frank, they could have traded him for anything.

They wanted value back, and didn't get it, so they kept him.
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Post#1376 » by K_ick_God » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:18 pm

Assassin is a French word.

Frank already trying to embarrass the Celtics.

And the Jazz for thinking they drafted a better player.
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Post#1378 » by robillionaire » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:22 pm

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They were trying to trade him for a 2nd round pick. They don't see him as a player to develop they see him as a player they want to get rid of


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I don't fully buy this. If they wanted to just be rid of Frank, they could have traded him for anything.

They wanted value back, and didn't get it, so they kept him.


Well, according to Begley the value they wanted back was a 2nd round pick in the draft this year, and they didn't get it so they kept him. Take it with a grain of salt I guess.
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Post#1379 » by mpharris36 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:22 pm

GONYK wrote:
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They were trying to trade him for a 2nd round pick. They don't see him as a player to develop they see him as a player they want to get rid of


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I don't fully buy this. If they wanted to just be rid of Frank, they could have traded him for anything.

They wanted value back, and didn't get it, so they kept him.


I mean it depended on the value. If they got a pick in the 30-40 range of this draft I believe 100% he was traded. I don’t think anyone was offering him that.

So they do value him but very little due to how they have been bringing in trash to play over him constantly.
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Post#1380 » by GONYK » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:23 pm

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I don't fully buy this. If they wanted to just be rid of Frank, they could have traded him for anything.

They wanted value back, and didn't get it, so they kept him.


Well, according to Begley the value they wanted back was a 2nd round pick in the draft this year, and they didn't get it so they kept him. Take it with a grain of salt I guess.


I believe Begley. I'm just saying there is a difference between the 31st pick and the 59th pick.

I don't think they were looking to trade him just to trade him.

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