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[bringbackhoffa]

Me doing a mock draft is completely different from what Hoffa is doing though.

I agree but I wouldnt have had an issue if you did a mock and still owned the 4th pick. I'm at least consistent with that.

What I'm not sure we can do is tell him how to spend his money. If he wants to troll with his money he might piss people off but guess what he will be left a non playoff team. Because as you have shown if you target the right players and the players you want you will be better off than playing the I will bid on everyone game and left with some good value players but still not the best players. Because the simple fact is even the best players that get paid the most (maybe even overpaid a little) still dominate the league.

I wouldn’t do a mock draft if I had a pick. I only did it solely to add commentary to the league. That’s the difference between me and Hoffa. He is doing his player profiles for selfish reasons. I have no benefit in this

Hoffa has beef with 2010 so it’s obvious he’s trying to make him lose his free agents by repeatedly reposting the Raptors free agents profiles. Why? So he can make the playoffs over him. And then he’s advertising other teams players to make sure there is not a market for Siakam next year and he can resign him for cheap. How do y’all not see this? And then as usual, he will make sure certain players don’t go for cheap when the actual free agency starts by publicly announcing bids, which completely defeats the purpose of bidding on players privately via pm. Everything Hoffa does is in bad faith.

First of all no beef on my end, second of all I only repost the profiles from the day before and the new one from the current day. I haven't singled out 2010 in any way, for the most part all my profiles follow the same template it just so happens 2010 has more free agents than other teams so it may seem like he gets pick on more but that is just by chance. Go look at the LMA profile i did today no different than any of the raps ones

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[bringbackhoffa]

At the end of the day you do realize you do not have to bid on players I tell you to bid on right?

If I hold that much power why aren't you trading me superstars for fournier when I propose said deals.

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[mpharris36]

Me doing a mock draft is completely different from what Hoffa is doing though.

I agree but I wouldnt have had an issue if you did a mock and still owned the 4th pick. I'm at least consistent with that.

What I'm not sure we can do is tell him how to spend his money. If he wants to troll with his money he might piss people off but guess what he will be left a non playoff team. Because as you have shown if you target the right players and the players you want you will be better off than playing the I will bid on everyone game and left with some good value players but still not the best players. Because the simple fact is even the best players that get paid the most (maybe even overpaid a little) still dominate the league.

I wouldn’t do a mock draft if I had a pick. I only did it solely to add commentary to the league. That’s the difference between me and Hoffa. He is doing his player profiles for selfish reasons. I have no benefit in this

Hoffa has beef with 2010 so it’s obvious he’s trying to make him lose his free agents by repeatedly reposting the Raptors free agents profiles. Why? So he can make the playoffs over him. And then he’s advertising other teams players to make sure there is not a market for Siakam next year and he can resign him for cheap. How do y’all not see this? And then as usual, he will make sure certain players don’t go for cheap when the actual free agency starts by publicly announcing bids, which completely defeats the purpose of bidding on players privately via pm. Everything Hoffa does is in bad faith.

I think people see it they just ignore it because I have yet to see anyone come in and post and take his opinion seriously. Why would you trust someone opinoin that hasn't made the playoffs? If hoffa told me to do something I would probably do the opposite

Like I said before if people really had issues with the player profiles then I'm sure if there was enough people with issues even though bish doesn't like the idea im sure he would listen. But I don't even think that is many peoples issue. People seem to have issues with his frivolous bidding. But I just don't see a way how you can tell him how to spend his money on bidding on players.

[2010]

Me doing a mock draft is completely different from what Hoffa is doing though.

I agree but I wouldnt have had an issue if you did a mock and still owned the 4th pick. I'm at least consistent with that.

What I'm not sure we can do is tell him how to spend his money. If he wants to troll with his money he might piss people off but guess what he will be left a non playoff team. Because as you have shown if you target the right players and the players you want you will be better off than playing the I will bid on everyone game and left with some good value players but still not the best players. Because the simple fact is even the best players that get paid the most (maybe even overpaid a little) still dominate the league.

I wouldn’t do a mock draft if I had a pick. I only did it solely to add commentary to the league. That’s the difference between me and Hoffa. He is doing his player profiles for selfish reasons. I have no benefit in this

Hoffa has beef with 2010 so it’s obvious he’s trying to make him lose his free agents by repeatedly reposting the Raptors free agents profiles. Why? So he can make the playoffs over him. And then he’s advertising other teams players to make sure there is not a market for Siakam next year and he can resign him for cheap. How do y’all not see this? And then as usual, he will make sure certain players don’t go for cheap when the actual free agency starts by publicly announcing bids, which completely defeats the purpose of bidding on players privately via pm. Everything Hoffa does is in bad faith.

But Hoffa is active and spent time on his profiles so, shhhhh...lets ignore all of that.

[3toheadmelo]

I agree but I wouldnt have had an issue if you did a mock and still owned the 4th pick. I'm at least consistent with that.

What I'm not sure we can do is tell him how to spend his money. If he wants to troll with his money he might piss people off but guess what he will be left a non playoff team. Because as you have shown if you target the right players and the players you want you will be better off than playing the I will bid on everyone game and left with some good value players but still not the best players. Because the simple fact is even the best players that get paid the most (maybe even overpaid a little) still dominate the league.

I wouldn’t do a mock draft if I had a pick. I only did it solely to add commentary to the league. That’s the difference between me and Hoffa. He is doing his player profiles for selfish reasons. I have no benefit in this

Hoffa has beef with 2010 so it’s obvious he’s trying to make him lose his free agents by repeatedly reposting the Raptors free agents profiles. Why? So he can make the playoffs over him. And then he’s advertising other teams players to make sure there is not a market for Siakam next year and he can resign him for cheap. How do y’all not see this? And then as usual, he will make sure certain players don’t go for cheap when the actual free agency starts by publicly announcing bids, which completely defeats the purpose of bidding on players privately via pm. Everything Hoffa does is in bad faith.

I think people see it they just ignore it because I have yet to see anyone come in and post and take his opinion seriously. Why would you trust someone opinoin that hasn't made the playoffs? If hoffa told me to do something I would probably do the opposite

Like I said before if people really had issues with the player profiles then I'm sure if there was enough people with issues even though bish doesn't like the idea im sure he would listen. But I don't even think that is many peoples issue. People seem to have issues with his frivolous bidding. But I just don't see a way how you can tell him how to spend his money on bidding on players.

He doesn’t have to tell you directly to bid on them. But now he is essentially putting all of the free agents on notice to every single team. That’s basically doing teams homework for them. This will now start bidding wars and will ultimately create a worse market for Siakam next year when teams cap them selves out.

[2010]

I agree but I wouldnt have had an issue if you did a mock and still owned the 4th pick. I'm at least consistent with that.

What I'm not sure we can do is tell him how to spend his money. If he wants to troll with his money he might piss people off but guess what he will be left a non playoff team. Because as you have shown if you target the right players and the players you want you will be better off than playing the I will bid on everyone game and left with some good value players but still not the best players. Because the simple fact is even the best players that get paid the most (maybe even overpaid a little) still dominate the league.

I wouldn’t do a mock draft if I had a pick. I only did it solely to add commentary to the league. That’s the difference between me and Hoffa. He is doing his player profiles for selfish reasons. I have no benefit in this

Hoffa has beef with 2010 so it’s obvious he’s trying to make him lose his free agents by repeatedly reposting the Raptors free agents profiles. Why? So he can make the playoffs over him. And then he’s advertising other teams players to make sure there is not a market for Siakam next year and he can resign him for cheap. How do y’all not see this? And then as usual, he will make sure certain players don’t go for cheap when the actual free agency starts by publicly announcing bids, which completely defeats the purpose of bidding on players privately via pm. Everything Hoffa does is in bad faith.

First of all no beef on my end, second of all I only repost the profiles from the day before and the new one from the current day. I haven't singled out 2010 in any way, for the most part all my profiles follow the same template it just so happens 2010 has more free agents than other teams so it may seem like he gets pick on more but that is just by chance. Go look at the LMA profile i did today no different than any of the raps ones

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Dude, bye with your nonsense. I ignored your shenanigans for MONTHS before finally answering your calls for fuggery. You have been at this since early early spring. Started with constantly mentioning D-Rose. Before you even started your first profile. Then it continued with the rest of my players in constant chirping. I didn't take your bait. Then you started your profiles (mainly cuz you wanted to drive up the price of my players). You then feigned to included all notable free agents just for cover. After that I started to fire back on your ass. Stop tryna play innocent. That act doesn't work on me.

You provoked drama cuz you wanted to call attention to my free agents and cap situation.Then I made contingency plan transactions once I saw you were tryna sabotage my offseason. Mainly cuz you know your team bombed last year down the stretch. You know playoff spots will be another dogfight and you don't want to compete legitimately like a man. So you've resorted to bush league tactics. But this is your character. You've conducted yourself like a douche your entire BaF tenure. Which is why your reputation preceded you when I joined and was forewarned. Which is why you had no luck in the lottery. Which is why you seemingly had a good team and everyone jumped on your dicc after the Vucevic trade yet you still failed to make the playoffs. You constantly wish injuries on players. Everything about you is penis-heady.

Enjoy...

[mpharris36]

I wouldn’t do a mock draft if I had a pick. I only did it solely to add commentary to the league. That’s the difference between me and Hoffa. He is doing his player profiles for selfish reasons. I have no benefit in this

Hoffa has beef with 2010 so it’s obvious he’s trying to make him lose his free agents by repeatedly reposting the Raptors free agents profiles. Why? So he can make the playoffs over him. And then he’s advertising other teams players to make sure there is not a market for Siakam next year and he can resign him for cheap. How do y’all not see this? And then as usual, he will make sure certain players don’t go for cheap when the actual free agency starts by publicly announcing bids, which completely defeats the purpose of bidding on players privately via pm. Everything Hoffa does is in bad faith.

I think people see it they just ignore it because I have yet to see anyone come in and post and take his opinion seriously. Why would you trust someone opinoin that hasn't made the playoffs? If hoffa told me to do something I would probably do the opposite

Like I said before if people really had issues with the player profiles then I'm sure if there was enough people with issues even though bish doesn't like the idea im sure he would listen. But I don't even think that is many peoples issue. People seem to have issues with his frivolous bidding. But I just don't see a way how you can tell him how to spend his money on bidding on players.

He doesn’t have to tell you directly to bid on them. But now he is essentially putting all of the free agents on notice to every single team. That’s basically doing teams homework for them. This will now start bidding wars and will ultimately create a worse market for Siakam next year when teams cap them selves out.

I guess I have more faith in our group of GM's then you do. Hoffa aint creating any bidding wars for players that those GM's don't want to be it. I think we have already had our most active GM's come in and say they don't take a word Hoffa says seriously.

Just like him offering to take a top 5 pick for free to save us cap space...no one actually takes him serious.

[DOT]

. You know playoff spots will be another dogfight and you don't want to compete legitimately like a man.

[Strick]

I am intrigued about potentially making my way into the draft one way or another. If you are interested in guys like Will Barton or Dennis Schroeder feel free to shoot me a potential deal or a feeler for negotiations.

You can send stuff for OG and/or Allen as well, but know I will probably hold off on one of those deals until I can kind of get a feel for values so a Barton and/or Schroder deal would probably take place before that happens (or another player not listed). I understand the draft is Saturday and some people are trying to make deals before then, so I will try and get back to you as soon as I can if you reach out with an offer, feeler, or just general trade convos!

I look forward to hearing from some of you guys

[bringbackhoffa]

Yea I did over 50 profiles so I can cover up driving up only derrick rose contract.. makes complete sense.. especially considering derrick rose is one of my key offseason targets so I'd just be driving up my own price..

And yes I will enjoy

[3toheadmelo]

I think people see it they just ignore it because I have yet to see anyone come in and post and take his opinion seriously. Why would you trust someone opinoin that hasn't made the playoffs? If hoffa told me to do something I would probably do the opposite

Like I said before if people really had issues with the player profiles then I'm sure if there was enough people with issues even though bish doesn't like the idea im sure he would listen. But I don't even think that is many peoples issue. People seem to have issues with his frivolous bidding. But I just don't see a way how you can tell him how to spend his money on bidding on players.

He doesn’t have to tell you directly to bid on them. But now he is essentially putting all of the free agents on notice to every single team. That’s basically doing teams homework for them. This will now start bidding wars and will ultimately create a worse market for Siakam next year when teams cap them selves out.

I guess I have more faith in our group of GM's then you do. Hoffa aint creating any bidding wars for players that those GM's don't want to be it. I think we have already have had our most active GM's come in and say they don't take a word Hoffa says seriously.

Just like him offering to take a top 5 pick for free to save us cap space...no one actually takes him serious.

He’s putting all players on notice for teams that ain’t doing their homework. That works in hoffa’s favor to create a worse market for Siakam.

And even if you don’t think gm’s aren’t listening or taking notes on Hoffa’s profiles, he’s still operating in bad faith period.

[DOT]

I am intrigued about potentially making my way into the draft one way or another. If you are interested in guys like Will Barton or Dennis Schroeder feel free to shoot me a potential deal or a feeler for negotiations.

You can send stuff for OG and/or Allen as well, but know I will probably hold off on one of those deals until I can kind of get a feel for values so a Barton and/or Schroder deal would probably take place before that happens (or another player not listed). I understand the draft is Saturday and some people are trying to make deals before then, so I will try and get back to you as soon as I can if you reach out with an offer, feeler, or just general trade convos!

I look forward to hearing from some of you guys

Best I can do is Josh Jackson

[bringbackhoffa]

He doesn’t have to tell you directly to bid on them. But now he is essentially putting all of the free agents on notice to every single team. That’s basically doing teams homework for them. This will now start bidding wars and will ultimately create a worse market for Siakam next year when teams cap them selves out.

I guess I have more faith in our group of GM's then you do. Hoffa aint creating any bidding wars for players that those GM's don't want to be it. I think we have already have had our most active GM's come in and say they don't take a word Hoffa says seriously.

Just like him offering to take a top 5 pick for free to save us cap space...no one actually takes him serious.

He’s putting all players on notice for teams that ain’t doing their homework. That works in hoffa’s favor to create a worse market for Siakam.

And even if you don’t think gm’s aren’t listening or taking notes on Hoffa’s profiles, he’s still operating in bad faith period.

Detroit is getting siakam next year he has the space and im not touching him over 250 bucks

[mpharris36]

He doesn’t have to tell you directly to bid on them. But now he is essentially putting all of the free agents on notice to every single team. That’s basically doing teams homework for them. This will now start bidding wars and will ultimately create a worse market for Siakam next year when teams cap them selves out.

I guess I have more faith in our group of GM's then you do. Hoffa aint creating any bidding wars for players that those GM's don't want to be it. I think we have already have had our most active GM's come in and say they don't take a word Hoffa says seriously.

Just like him offering to take a top 5 pick for free to save us cap space...no one actually takes him serious.

He’s putting all players on notice for teams that ain’t doing their homework. That works in hoffa’s favor to create a worse market for Siakam.

And even if you don’t think gm’s aren’t listening or taking notes on Hoffa’s profiles, he’s still operating in bad faith period.

lets say we all agree his FA writeups are bad faith for the sake of argument and do away with them. If thats what you want.

You haven't addressed what seems to be the biggest issue him bidding up players he doesn't want on purpose (which has been brought up). How would bish be able to determine what are legitimate bids and what are bids hoffa just wants to get matched or beat?

[Strick]

I am intrigued about potentially making my way into the draft one way or another. If you are interested in guys like Will Barton or Dennis Schroeder feel free to shoot me a potential deal or a feeler for negotiations.

You can send stuff for OG and/or Allen as well, but know I will probably hold off on one of those deals until I can kind of get a feel for values so a Barton and/or Schroder deal would probably take place before that happens (or another player not listed). I understand the draft is Saturday and some people are trying to make deals before then, so I will try and get back to you as soon as I can if you reach out with an offer, feeler, or just general trade convos!

I look forward to hearing from some of you guys

Best I can do is Josh Jackson

*checks BAF notes and information*

[DOT]

I am intrigued about potentially making my way into the draft one way or another. If you are interested in guys like Will Barton or Dennis Schroeder feel free to shoot me a potential deal or a feeler for negotiations.

You can send stuff for OG and/or Allen as well, but know I will probably hold off on one of those deals until I can kind of get a feel for values so a Barton and/or Schroder deal would probably take place before that happens (or another player not listed). I understand the draft is Saturday and some people are trying to make deals before then, so I will try and get back to you as soon as I can if you reach out with an offer, feeler, or just general trade convos!

I look forward to hearing from some of you guys

Best I can do is Josh Jackson

*checks BAF notes and information*

[3toheadmelo]

I guess I have more faith in our group of GM's then you do. Hoffa aint creating any bidding wars for players that those GM's don't want to be it. I think we have already have had our most active GM's come in and say they don't take a word Hoffa says seriously.

Just like him offering to take a top 5 pick for free to save us cap space...no one actually takes him serious.

He’s putting all players on notice for teams that ain’t doing their homework. That works in hoffa’s favor to create a worse market for Siakam.

And even if you don’t think gm’s aren’t listening or taking notes on Hoffa’s profiles, he’s still operating in bad faith period.

lets say we all agree his FA writeups are bad faith for the sake of argument and do away with them. If thats what you want.

You haven't addressed what seems to be the biggest issue him bidding up players he doesn't want on purpose (which has been brought up). How would bish be able to determine what are legitimate bids and what are bids hoffa just wants to get matched or beat?

You can’t. Because Hoffa will lie about all of his bids. But that’s not the biggest issue at all. I never even made any posts about that.

The point is that his write ups are in bad faith for the reasons I stated. And then he will publicly announce bids which defeats the purpose of pming bids to bish.

[mpharris36]

speaking of Josh Jackson. How Melo was able to build his current team and originally gave out Josh Jackson and DSJ's contract in year 1 of this is simply amazing. Crazy good job!

[mpharris36]

He’s putting all players on notice for teams that ain’t doing their homework. That works in hoffa’s favor to create a worse market for Siakam.

And even if you don’t think gm’s aren’t listening or taking notes on Hoffa’s profiles, he’s still operating in bad faith period.

lets say we all agree his FA writeups are bad faith for the sake of argument and do away with them. If thats what you want.

You haven't addressed what seems to be the biggest issue him bidding up players he doesn't want on purpose (which has been brought up). How would bish be able to determine what are legitimate bids and what are bids hoffa just wants to get matched or beat?

You can’t. Because Hoffa will lie about all of his bids. But that’s not the biggest issue at all. I never even made any posts about that.

The point is that his write ups are in bad faith for the reasons I stated. And then he will publicly announce bids which defeats the purpose of pming bids to bish.

Agreed on publically announcing bids. I agree on that.

But there seems to be different opinions on what people hate about hoffa the most

You - issues with his FA profiles

KDOT - issues with him bad faith bidding up players he doesn't want

2010 - just thinks he's a "penis head" and hates everything about him

I'm just saying instead of just going through this cycle lets see if we can do something about it. I think we can solve the public announcing of bids and asking people to beat the current offer with a rule . I think that is fair. The other stuff is a pretty tough "grey" area I think would be difficult to touch.

[bringbackhoffa]

He’s putting all players on notice for teams that ain’t doing their homework. That works in hoffa’s favor to create a worse market for Siakam.

And even if you don’t think gm’s aren’t listening or taking notes on Hoffa’s profiles, he’s still operating in bad faith period.

lets say we all agree his FA writeups are bad faith for the sake of argument and do away with them. If thats what you want.

You haven't addressed what seems to be the biggest issue him bidding up players he doesn't want on purpose (which has been brought up). How would bish be able to determine what are legitimate bids and what are bids hoffa just wants to get matched or beat?

You can’t. Because Hoffa will lie about all of his bids. But that’s not the biggest issue at all. I never even made any posts about that.

The point is that his write ups are in bad faith for the reasons I stated. And then he will publicly announce bids which defeats the purpose of pming bids to bish.

Yea and team benching their star players so you can tank is any better, how is that not bad faith, you essentially secured the sixth pick by benching or reducing the minutes of your star players

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