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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1361 » by Pointgod » Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:32 am

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GONYK wrote:It hasn't impacted polls in the slightest

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I saw this one that says it’s having an impact

https://nypost.com/2020/10/17/joe-bidens-polling-lead-slips-in-wake-of-post-report-on-hunter/
"Slipping" to 7 points in one poll is statistically insignificant, especially since the margin of error is +- 3.

It's also still terrible news for Trump if Biden is up 7.


And it’s also posted by the NY Post.... so they took the one poll that showed a slip and tried to tie it to the fraudulent smear campaign that they were a part of.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1362 » by Pointgod » Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:46 am

Kampuchea wrote:I told y’all this was a problem :banghead:

It’s impacting polls.


https://nypost.com/2020/10/19/john-ratcliffe-info-on-hunter-biden-laptop-not-russian-disinformation/

“Hunter Biden’s laptop is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign,” Ratcliffe said.

“Let me be clear: The intelligence community doesn’t believe that because there is no intelligence that supports that. And we have shared no intelligence with Adam Schiff, or any member of Congress,” he said.


You know the FBI is investigating whether the Hunter Biden laptop idiocy is Part of a Russian disinformation campaign (of course it is).

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Post#1363 » by Pointgod » Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:47 am

frothbrain wrote:WAIT A MINUTE ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT HUNTER BIDEN RUNNING A MONEY LAUNDERING SCHEME FOR THE MAYOR OF MOSCOW'S WIFE ISN'T RUSSIAN FAKE NEWS?!! Insert colorful gif and or tweet here.
Surely Democrats are honest people by association and a career politician like Joe Biden honestly created a family dynasty holding public office.
No way Joe Biden, his brothers, and his children all became multimillionaires through dishonest means!
FAKE NEWS via the RUSSIANS, just not the ones that Biden worked with of course..


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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1364 » by aq_ua » Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:48 am

Kampuchea wrote:I told y’all this was a problem :banghead:

It’s impacting polls.


https://nypost.com/2020/10/19/john-ratcliffe-info-on-hunter-biden-laptop-not-russian-disinformation/

“Hunter Biden’s laptop is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign,” Ratcliffe said.

“Let me be clear: The intelligence community doesn’t believe that because there is no intelligence that supports that. And we have shared no intelligence with Adam Schiff, or any member of Congress,” he said.

Frank Figliuzzi, an NBC News contributor and former FBI counterintelligence chief, said it's possible the laptop was the product of a political dirty trick by domestic actors.

"We have to be careful about saying this is absolutely a Russian operation, because there's a sloppiness here that almost seems too sloppy for Russian intelligence," he said.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/ratcliffe-says-no-proof-foreign-actors-tied-biden-laptop-officials-n1243874

It would be hilarious if Russia denied the allegations under the "sloppiness" defense.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1365 » by Pointgod » Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:48 am

frothbrain wrote:Hunter is going to sink Biden's campaign if these CP charges come to light.
Public opinion will change regarding Biden's character if his son is a pedo. Fair or not, people hold parents responsible for their children's actions.

This plus whatever dirt Cooney spilled on Hunter to get released from prison.


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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1366 » by Phish Tank » Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:48 am

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frothbrain wrote:Hunter is going to sink Biden's campaign if these CP charges come to light.
Public opinion will change regarding Biden's character if his son is a pedo. Fair or not, people hold parents responsible for their children's actions.

This plus whatever dirt Cooney spilled on Hunter to get released from prison.


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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1368 » by stuporman » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:28 am

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I wonder where all Trump's money went


Laundered right into the Trump organization through his properties and other services just like he has been doing with taxpayers money, foreign interests and dignitaries money which has been going on for not only the past four years of his term and initial campaign but his whole career as a business man.

He is the one of the dirtiest businessmen to ever have existed defrauding investors, banks and his tax returns for decades but now he's become officially a corrupt politician dredging up the swampiest behavior all to enrich himself, his family and a few select associates.

Of course, all of this won't come out until after he's out of office and nothing will happen to him or his family except he will be tweeting 'fake news' right up until his deathbed tweet which his final one will likely be calling us all losers and suckers.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1369 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:29 am

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While the HunterBidiots do their stupid dance the NYTimes just put this out.

All of the October surprises thus far are about Donald Trump.

Why does Donald want to hide that he has a banking account in China?

Who dumped that money into his bank account that he treated as a piggy bank of thus far unreported found money in 2017?

Hmmmm?

For the intellectually challenged: All Chinese banks = The Chinese government. You bank there, the government knows it and allows it. 17M does not appear in your bank account without PRC knowledge or approval, especially for the POTUS.

Trump Records Shed New Light on Chinese Business Pursuits
As he raises questions about his opponent’s standing with China, President Trump’s taxes reveal details about his own activities there, including a previously unknown bank account.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/20/us/trump-taxes-china.htm

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And it turns out that China is one of only three foreign nations — the others are Britain and Ireland — where Mr. Trump maintains a bank account, according to an analysis of the president’s tax records, which were obtained by The New York Times. The foreign accounts do not show up on Mr. Trump’s public financial disclosures, where he must list personal assets, because they are held under corporate names. The identities of the financial institutions are not clear.


Mr. Garten would not identify the bank in China where the account is held. Until last year, China’s biggest state-controlled bank rented three floors in Trump Tower, a lucrative lease that drew accusations of a conflict of interest for the president.


But Mr. Trump’s plans in China have been largely driven by a different company, Trump International Hotels Management — the one with a Chinese bank account.

The company has direct ownership of THC China Development, but is also involved in management of other Trump-branded properties around the world, and it is not possible to discern from its tax records how much of its financial activity is China-related. It normally reports a few million dollars in annual income and deductible expenses.

In 2017, the company reported an unusually large spike in revenue — some $17.5 million, more than the previous five years’ combined. It was accompanied by a $15.1 million withdrawal by Mr. Trump from the company’s capital account.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1370 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:40 am

stuporman wrote:
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I wonder where all Trump's money went


Laundered right into the Trump organization through his properties and other services just like he has been doing with taxpayers money, foreign interests and dignitaries money which has been going on for not only the past four years of his term and initial campaign but his whole career as a business man.

He is the one of the dirtiest businessmen to ever have existed defrauding investors, banks and his tax returns for decades but now he's become officially a corrupt politician dredging up the swampiest behavior all to enrich himself, his family and a few select associates.

Of course, all of this won't come out until after he's out of office and nothing will happen to him or his family except he will be tweeting 'fake news' right up until his deathbed tweet which his final one will likely be calling us all losers and suckers.


Multiple direct Trump associates are rotting in jail for fraud, tax evasion, campaign activites and lying to the feds. They have been going to jail for a while even with Bill Barr failing to run effective interference. The ability to prosecute and put away these criminals will be 10X what it is today under Biden so none of these people are escaping prosecution.

There is a grand jury preparing its indictment of Trump for many months now.

Eric Trump was just deposed for a whole day by Tish James for his role in the Trump Organization which is classic mafia takedown procedure to break down the weakest link and work your way up the ladder to the top man.

So, no, they are not getting away with it.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1371 » by stuporman » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:52 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
stuporman wrote:
GONYK wrote:
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I wonder where all Trump's money went


Laundered right into the Trump organization through his properties and other services just like he has been doing with taxpayers money, foreign interests and dignitaries money which has been going on for not only the past four years of his term and initial campaign but his whole career as a business man.

He is the one of the dirtiest businessmen to ever have existed defrauding investors, banks and his tax returns for decades but now he's become officially a corrupt politician dredging up the swampiest behavior all to enrich himself, his family and a few select associates.

Of course, all of this won't come out until after he's out of office and nothing will happen to him or his family except he will be tweeting 'fake news' right up until his deathbed tweet which his final one will likely be calling us all losers and suckers.


Multiple direct Trump associates are rotting in jail for fraud, tax evasion, campaign activites and lying to the feds. They have been going to jail for a while even with Bill Barr failing to run effective interference. The ability to prosecute and put away these criminals will be 10X what it is today under Biden so none of these people are escaping prosecution.

There is a grand jury preparing its indictment of Trump for many months now.

Eric Trump was just deposed for a whole day by Tish James for his role in the Trump Organization which is classic mafia takedown procedure to break down the weakest link and work your way up the ladder to the top man.

So, no, they are not getting away with it.


I'm not as convinced that any of the Trump's or the main players will see a day in jail let alone any real consequences other than maybe fines or something. Trump like many politicians and 'crime bosses' have plenty of patsies around to take the fall for them.

I would love to be proven wrong but until then I go with what is the proven pattern of the political world. I'm even surprised that this much has come out already but to republicans and his base it won't make a lick of difference, he's their cult hero and the chosen one.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1372 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:05 am

stuporman wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
stuporman wrote:
Laundered right into the Trump organization through his properties and other services just like he has been doing with taxpayers money, foreign interests and dignitaries money which has been going on for not only the past four years of his term and initial campaign but his whole career as a business man.

He is the one of the dirtiest businessmen to ever have existed defrauding investors, banks and his tax returns for decades but now he's become officially a corrupt politician dredging up the swampiest behavior all to enrich himself, his family and a few select associates.

Of course, all of this won't come out until after he's out of office and nothing will happen to him or his family except he will be tweeting 'fake news' right up until his deathbed tweet which his final one will likely be calling us all losers and suckers.


Multiple direct Trump associates are rotting in jail for fraud, tax evasion, campaign activites and lying to the feds. They have been going to jail for a while even with Bill Barr failing to run effective interference. The ability to prosecute and put away these criminals will be 10X what it is today under Biden so none of these people are escaping prosecution.

There is a grand jury preparing its indictment of Trump for many months now.

Eric Trump was just deposed for a whole day by Tish James for his role in the Trump Organization which is classic mafia takedown procedure to break down the weakest link and work your way up the ladder to the top man.

So, no, they are not getting away with it.


I'm not as convinced that any of the Trump's or the main players will see a day in jail let alone any real consequences other than maybe fines or something. Trump like many politicians and 'crime bosses' have plenty of patsies around to take the fall for them.

I would love to be proven wrong but until then I go with what is the proven pattern of the political world. I'm even surprised that this much has come out already but to republicans and his base it won't make a lick of difference, he's their cult hero and the chosen one.


To be fair, your innate pessimism over this is stronger than mine so I merely pointed to the empirical evidence so far that Trump's inner circle continues to get popped and jailed. This is trend that continues up to very recently with the arrest of Bannon and Elliott Broidy. And Parscale is in custody too. All three are walking encyclopedias on Trump's corruption.

The only way the DoJ is going to restore itself is to show it is not corrupt and there are clearly still powerful people within the department who are not Trump partisans who keep hacking away. Bill Barr has made massive enemies within the department and one term was not enough to purge the department and make it a complete annex to the WH.

Once a new AG comes in they will be unburdened by these WH sponsored criminals trying to suppress their efforts and they will be unleashed. There has been a massive amount of pent-up energy accrued by the clearly obvious internal resistance within the department that is probably going to explode into a flurry of activity once Barr walks out the door.

Biden has no choice at this point but to empower the DoJ to take action, because there is no precedent for this kind of corruption. If Biden turns a blind eye then this becomes the New Normal. That is not going to happen. The wheels of justice have already been turning for a while now. They'll start spinning much faster under Biden. It will be a historical take-down of lots of public officials who collaborated with the WH.

So I'd be shocked if that does not happen. You'd be shocked if it does evidently. We'll just have to wait and see.

P.S. Trump and his circle are the most reckless criminals imaginable. Patsies will not shield them. The evidence trail they've created is quite vast. Just the digital info-sec acquired by five eyes alone will put some of these people away for a long time. Plus, we're talking about treason here, not just fraud. There are so many people within the IC sitting on lots of proof waiting for these bastards to lose and be gone so they can go back to doing their jobs without the deep state crap. They are pretty resentful for good reason so lots of grudges are going to be settled and that is almost entirely bad news for the Trump circle.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1373 » by stuporman » Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:14 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
stuporman wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Multiple direct Trump associates are rotting in jail for fraud, tax evasion, campaign activites and lying to the feds. They have been going to jail for a while even with Bill Barr failing to run effective interference. The ability to prosecute and put away these criminals will be 10X what it is today under Biden so none of these people are escaping prosecution.

There is a grand jury preparing its indictment of Trump for many months now.

Eric Trump was just deposed for a whole day by Tish James for his role in the Trump Organization which is classic mafia takedown procedure to break down the weakest link and work your way up the ladder to the top man.

So, no, they are not getting away with it.


I'm not as convinced that any of the Trump's or the main players will see a day in jail let alone any real consequences other than maybe fines or something. Trump like many politicians and 'crime bosses' have plenty of patsies around to take the fall for them.

I would love to be proven wrong but until then I go with what is the proven pattern of the political world. I'm even surprised that this much has come out already but to republicans and his base it won't make a lick of difference, he's their cult hero and the chosen one.


To be fair, your innate pessimism over this is stronger than mine so I merely pointed to the empirical evidence so far that Trump's inner circle continues to get popped and jailed. This is trend that continues up to very recently with the arrest of Bannon and Elliott Broidy. And Parscale is in custody too. All three are walking encyclopedias on Trump's corruption.

The only way the DoJ is going to restore itself is to show it is not corrupt and there are clearly still powerful people within the department who are not Trump partisans who keep hacking away. Bill Barr has made massive enemies within the department and one term was not enough to purge the department and make it a complete annex to the WH.

Once a new AG comes in they will be unburdened by these WH sponsored criminals trying to suppress their efforts and they will be unleashed. There has been a massive amount of pent-up energy accrued by the clearly obvious internal resistance within the department that is probably going to explode into a flurry of activity once Barr walks out the door.

Biden has no choice at this point but to empower the DoJ to take action, because there is no precedent for this kind of corruption. If Biden turns a blind eye then this becomes the New Normal. That is not going to happen. The wheels of justice have already been turning for a while now. They'll start spinning much faster under Biden. It will be a historical take-down of lots of public officials who collaborated with the WH.

So I'd be shocked if that does not happen. You'd be shocked if it does evidently. We'll just have to wait and see.

P.S. Trump and his circle are the most reckless criminals imaginable. Patsies will not shield them. The evidence trail they've created is quite vast. Just the digital info-sec acquired by five eyes alone will put some of these people away for a long time. Plus, we're talking about treason here, not just fraud. There are so many people within the IC sitting on lots of proof waiting for these bastards to lose and be gone so they can go back to doing their jobs without the deep state crap. They are pretty resentful for good reason so lots of grudges are going to be settled and that is almost entirely bad news for the Trump circle.


I hope you are right. One thing I'd love to see is the hotel in DC Trump leases from the govt gets embroiled in this and they take it away from him. Seeing his name ripped off that would be beautifully symbolic.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1374 » by GONYK » Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:28 am

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While the HunterBidiots do their stupid dance the NYTimes just put this out.

All of the October surprises thus far are about Donald Trump.

Why does Donald want to hide that he has a banking account in China?

Who dumped that money into his bank account that he treated as a piggy bank of thus far unreported found money in 2017?

Hmmmm?

For the intellectually challenged: All Chinese banks = The Chinese government. You bank there, the government knows it and allows it. 17M does not appear in your bank account without PRC knowledge or approval, especially for the POTUS.

Trump Records Shed New Light on Chinese Business Pursuits
As he raises questions about his opponent’s standing with China, President Trump’s taxes reveal details about his own activities there, including a previously unknown bank account.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/20/us/trump-taxes-china.htm

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And it turns out that China is one of only three foreign nations — the others are Britain and Ireland — where Mr. Trump maintains a bank account, according to an analysis of the president’s tax records, which were obtained by The New York Times. The foreign accounts do not show up on Mr. Trump’s public financial disclosures, where he must list personal assets, because they are held under corporate names. The identities of the financial institutions are not clear.


Mr. Garten would not identify the bank in China where the account is held. Until last year, China’s biggest state-controlled bank rented three floors in Trump Tower, a lucrative lease that drew accusations of a conflict of interest for the president.


But Mr. Trump’s plans in China have been largely driven by a different company, Trump International Hotels Management — the one with a Chinese bank account.

The company has direct ownership of THC China Development, but is also involved in management of other Trump-branded properties around the world, and it is not possible to discern from its tax records how much of its financial activity is China-related. It normally reports a few million dollars in annual income and deductible expenses.

In 2017, the company reported an unusually large spike in revenue — some $17.5 million, more than the previous five years’ combined. It was accompanied by a $15.1 million withdrawal by Mr. Trump from the company’s capital account.

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1375 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:28 am

stuporman wrote:
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I'm not as convinced that any of the Trump's or the main players will see a day in jail let alone any real consequences other than maybe fines or something. Trump like many politicians and 'crime bosses' have plenty of patsies around to take the fall for them.

I would love to be proven wrong but until then I go with what is the proven pattern of the political world. I'm even surprised that this much has come out already but to republicans and his base it won't make a lick of difference, he's their cult hero and the chosen one.


To be fair, your innate pessimism over this is stronger than mine so I merely pointed to the empirical evidence so far that Trump's inner circle continues to get popped and jailed. This is trend that continues up to very recently with the arrest of Bannon and Elliott Broidy. And Parscale is in custody too. All three are walking encyclopedias on Trump's corruption.

The only way the DoJ is going to restore itself is to show it is not corrupt and there are clearly still powerful people within the department who are not Trump partisans who keep hacking away. Bill Barr has made massive enemies within the department and one term was not enough to purge the department and make it a complete annex to the WH.

Once a new AG comes in they will be unburdened by these WH sponsored criminals trying to suppress their efforts and they will be unleashed. There has been a massive amount of pent-up energy accrued by the clearly obvious internal resistance within the department that is probably going to explode into a flurry of activity once Barr walks out the door.

Biden has no choice at this point but to empower the DoJ to take action, because there is no precedent for this kind of corruption. If Biden turns a blind eye then this becomes the New Normal. That is not going to happen. The wheels of justice have already been turning for a while now. They'll start spinning much faster under Biden. It will be a historical take-down of lots of public officials who collaborated with the WH.

So I'd be shocked if that does not happen. You'd be shocked if it does evidently. We'll just have to wait and see.

P.S. Trump and his circle are the most reckless criminals imaginable. Patsies will not shield them. The evidence trail they've created is quite vast. Just the digital info-sec acquired by five eyes alone will put some of these people away for a long time. Plus, we're talking about treason here, not just fraud. There are so many people within the IC sitting on lots of proof waiting for these bastards to lose and be gone so they can go back to doing their jobs without the deep state crap. They are pretty resentful for good reason so lots of grudges are going to be settled and that is almost entirely bad news for the Trump circle.


I hope you are right. One thing I'd love to see is the hotel in DC Trump leases from the govt gets embroiled in this and they take it away from him. Seeing his name ripped off that would be beautifully symbolic.


The only place the name Trump will likely still be seen on a building within a couple of years will be the Q Lodge in Outer Derpistan

A poetic moment would be NY State seizing Trump Tower for failure to come up with the 100M+ bill they'll hand him after conviction on the banking, insurance and tax fraud charges they are preparing right now.

BTW, Trump is so broke I read somewhere he tried to sell his DC Hotel because it was one of his only cashflow postive properties worth buying, but he probably failed at that because that cash flow was intrinsically due to emoulements fraud. Kind of hard to convince a buyer they'll be able to continue overcharging oil sheiks for the privilege of staying there without the power of presidential quid pro quo grifting.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1376 » by DOT » Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:42 am

Just so we're clear:

Allegations against Hunter Biden of child porn - can't vote for Joe

Allegations against Donald Trump of raping a 13 year old girl - not a problem
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1379 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:51 am

K-DOT wrote:Just so we're clear:

Allegations against Hunter Biden of child porn (doctored lap top by Rudy with assistance of Kremlin) - can't vote for Joe

Allegations against Donald Trump of raping a 13 year old girl (Actual court case with affidavit filed in NY still available online) - not a problem


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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch 

Post#1380 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:51 am

I understand that Trump walked out on an interview with Leslie Stahl for 60 Minutes to be aired this Sunday night.

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