OT: The Official COVID/Omicron Variant+ thread

[seren]

Let me get this straight. Delta CEO demanded cutting the quarantine time by half (from 10 days to 5 days) and CDC obliged? No wonder people have no trust whatsoever in these institutions. FDA, CDC all in the pockets of businesses. The administration changes but the result does not. We are basically all on our own

[Clyde_Style]

Props to RS for the great headline

Trump Adviser Worried He’s Not Getting Enough Credit for Trying to Ruin American Democracy

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/jan6-peter-navarro-ted-cruz-green-bay-sweep-1276742/

[WargamesX]

Let me get this straight. Delta CEO demanded cutting the quarantine time by half (from 10 days to 5 days) and CDC obliged? No wonder people have no trust whatsoever in these institutions. FDA, CDC all in the pockets of businesses. The administration changes but the result does not. We are basically all on our own

It’s absurd that America didn’t rejoin the WHO during a global pandemic …. But that would require us to share and work with others to get through this thing . Also CEO’s opinions wouldn’t carry as much weight.

[Clyde_Style]

Let me get this straight. Delta CEO demanded cutting the quarantine time by half (from 10 days to 5 days) and CDC obliged? No wonder people have no trust whatsoever in these institutions. FDA, CDC all in the pockets of businesses. The administration changes but the result does not. We are basically all on our own

It’s absurd that America didn’t rejoin the WHO during a global pandemic …. But that would require us to share and work with others to get through this thing . Also CEO’s opinions wouldn’t carry as much weight.

Biden rejoined the WHO

Equating Trump’s handling of the virus with Biden’s is totally off-base

[ag3]

Let me get this straight. Delta CEO demanded cutting the quarantine time by half (from 10 days to 5 days) and CDC obliged? No wonder people have no trust whatsoever in these institutions. FDA, CDC all in the pockets of businesses. The administration changes but the result does not. We are basically all on our own

The entire America will be infected with Omicron in the next month.

Quarantine of 10 days would crush business.

There's nothing you can do to stop a virus this contagious.

Sorry.

If you are vaccinated you have a high chance of being fine. If you are not, then that is your choice. 90%+ of all Omicron deaths will be in the unvaccinated.

[Zenzibar]

Let me get this straight. Delta CEO demanded cutting the quarantine time by half (from 10 days to 5 days) and CDC obliged? No wonder people have no trust whatsoever in these institutions. FDA, CDC all in the pockets of businesses. The administration changes but the result does not. We are basically all on our own

The entire America will be infected with Omicron in the next month.

Quarantine of 10 days would crush business.

There's nothing you can do to stop a virus this contagious.

Sorry.

If you are vaccinated you have a high chance of being fine. If you are not, then that is your choice. 90%+ of all Omicron deaths will be in the unvaccinated.

Luckily very few are dying, due to Omicron.

[nedleeds]

Let me get this straight. Delta CEO demanded cutting the quarantine time by half (from 10 days to 5 days) and CDC obliged? No wonder people have no trust whatsoever in these institutions. FDA, CDC all in the pockets of businesses. The administration changes but the result does not. We are basically all on our own

It’s absurd that America didn’t rejoin the WHO during a global pandemic …. But that would require us to share and work with others to get through this thing . Also CEO’s opinions wouldn’t carry as much weight.

Lol. Thanks Xi. The same WHO that kept the Taiwanese letters from December hidden until the virus had a chance to get out from China through 2 holiday travel events? To make sure the rest of the worlds economy went down with it. I'm good with never giving these **** murderers another nickel of my tax dollars.

[HarthorneWingo]

New York State hospitalization rate climbs up 63% in one week.

[HarthorneWingo]

Let me get this straight. Delta CEO demanded cutting the quarantine time by half (from 10 days to 5 days) and CDC obliged? No wonder people have no trust whatsoever in these institutions. FDA, CDC all in the pockets of businesses. The administration changes but the result does not. We are basically all on our own

It’s absurd that America didn’t rejoin the WHO during a global pandemic …. But that would require us to share and work with others to get through this thing . Also CEO’s opinions wouldn’t carry as much weight.

Lol. Thanks Xi. The same WHO that kept the Taiwanese letters from December hidden until the virus had a chance to get out from China through 2 holiday travel events? To make sure the rest of the worlds economy went down with it. I'm good with never giving these **** murderers another nickel of my tax dollars.

Blame Trump for taking our scientist/CDC watchdogs out of China who would’ve been keeping tabs on this.

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2020/3/23/21190713/coronavirus-trump-china-cdc-embed-quick

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN21C3N5

[Pointgod]

Let me get this straight. Delta CEO demanded cutting the quarantine time by half (from 10 days to 5 days) and CDC obliged? No wonder people have no trust whatsoever in these institutions. FDA, CDC all in the pockets of businesses. The administration changes but the result does not. We are basically all on our own

This makes no sense. You really think the Delta CEO has sway over the CDC? Lol. Think about that for a minute. The CDC, FDA are all publicly funded. You think they give a **** about what the Delta CEO says?

There are certainly issues with the new guidelines but you’re being baited into falling for misinformation that’s meant to make you distrust institutions.

[cgmw]

Let me get this straight. Delta CEO demanded cutting the quarantine time by half (from 10 days to 5 days) and CDC obliged? No wonder people have no trust whatsoever in these institutions. FDA, CDC all in the pockets of businesses. The administration changes but the result does not. We are basically all on our own

This makes no sense. You really think the Delta CEO has sway over the CDC? Lol. Think about that for a minute. The CDC, FDA are all publicly funded. You think they give a **** about what the Delta CEO says?

There are certainly issues with the new guidelines but you’re being baited into falling for misinformation that’s meant to make you distrust institutions.

Idk what really happened or why, but saying that the CDC is immune (get it?) to business influence because it’s funded by elected officials is like saying mice don’t like cheese.

Devil’s advocate (literally?) there could be serious public health consequences to having the economy shutter a second time. Seems like the CDC is throwing its hands up and saying, well if we’re all getting it anyway, might as well not F the economy too. Really doesn’t seem far fetched that Delta (airlines, not virus) showed that the extra 5 days does absolutely 0 to help stop the spread. Keep in mind you’re supposed to quarantine 5 days AND until you show no symptoms. If a Delta employee still has a runny nose after 5 days, I really hope they stay the F home.

[seren]

Blame Trump for sure but putting it all on him and not the corrupt system is a cop out. We are two years in the pandemic and can’t give our hands on a covid test. If you can find one, the cheapest price you can get is $14 for a two-pack. You can find these tests for less than $2 in a supermarket in Germany. Why? Because FDA has only approved a few tests - as opposed to its European counterpart - and effectively created an oligopoly over tests. Germany has 70+ different companies producing these tests. Heck, some US firms sell their tests to Europe but can’t sell here since they don’t have approval.

This is by no means an accident. The government is in bed with big companies. They will make sure their favorite donors are taken care of. They will tilt the market via regulators such as FDA, they will change CDC guidelines such as the quarantine period when there is a backlash from airlines. They have done it before and will continue to do it.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I dislike Trump as much as the next sane person, but he's been out of office a year now and this recent surge falls at the feet of Biden. There were major missteps that got us here, the rush to drop mask wearing by the administration to prove they had it "beat" and other stupid things done just for optics. And just like Trump the economy comes before safety of people with Biden just the same.

[Clyde_Style]

I dislike Trump as much as the next sane person, but he's been out of office a year now and this recent surge falls at the feet of Biden. There were major missteps that got us here, the rush to drop mask wearing by the administration to prove they had it "beat" and other stupid things done just for optics. And just like Trump the economy comes before safety of people with Biden just the same.

If you’ve read my posts, you know I’m in Florida. Most of them have not masked up for a long time now even though there is a slight uptick the past two weeks. The mandate to mask up falls upon local jurisdictions, not Joe Biden. And I can tell you that even when there were county-wide decrees that you were required to wear a mask in public places there were plenty of people here who ignored it.

Covid was going to spread no matter what and it is not Biden’s cross to bear if the public decides to spread it to each other. And Omicron came out of South Africa and in several weeks had colonized the globe.

You know what Biden did? Something highly unpopular with many Americans. He mandated vaccinations or regular testing within federal agencies and private companies with more than 100 employees. But he could do an Irish jig all day long trying to get Americans to mask up and it wouldn’t make a difference. Those who are going to mask up don’t need to be told to do it. The rest can’t be forced to do it. And covid will spread as a result.

Let’s not even begin to compare the efforts of the two administrations please. One was a grotesque, profiteering, self-agrandizing middle finger to scientific reason and another is doing the best they can. If Europe can’t stop Omicron from spreading, what makes you think that Biden could do any better anyway?

[Clyde_Style]

New findings are Omicron is mostly head and throat symptoms and not so much in the lungs anymore. That’s good news. It’s much milder in most instances apparently though more contagious.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I dislike Trump as much as the next sane person, but he's been out of office a year now and this recent surge falls at the feet of Biden. There were major missteps that got us here, the rush to drop mask wearing by the administration to prove they had it "beat" and other stupid things done just for optics. And just like Trump the economy comes before safety of people with Biden just the same.

If you’ve read my posts, you know I’m in Florida. Most of them have not masked up for a long time now even though there is a slight uptick the past two weeks. The mandate to mask up falls upon local jurisdictions, not Joe Biden. And I can tell you that even when there were county-wide decrees that you were required to wear a mask in public places there were plenty of people here who ignored it.

Covid was going to spread no matter what and it is not Biden’s cross to bear if the public decides to spread it to each other. And Omicron came out of South Africa and in several weeks had colonized the globe.

You know what Biden did? Something highly unpopular with many Americans. He mandated vaccinations or regular testing within federal agencies and private companies with more than 100 employees. But he could do an Irish jib all day long trying to get Americans to mask up and it wouldn’t make a difference. Those who are going to mask up don’t need to be told to do it. The rest can’t be forced to do it. And covid will spread as a result.

Let’s not even begin to compare the efforts of the two administrations please. One was a grotesque, profiteering, self-agrandizing middle finger to scientific reason and another is doing the best they can. If Europe can’t stop Omicron from spreading, what makes you think that Biden could do any better anyway?

I'm in NY, the local government here took cues from Fauci / CDC that said people with vaccines could drop mask wearing, that is a blunder that falls squarely on this administration. They relaxed and it's come back on them, so many people here stopped wearing masks as a result, it went from 90% adherence down to maybe 50\50 at best. They should have never said people with vaccines don't need to wear masks.

[Clyde_Style]

I dislike Trump as much as the next sane person, but he's been out of office a year now and this recent surge falls at the feet of Biden. There were major missteps that got us here, the rush to drop mask wearing by the administration to prove they had it "beat" and other stupid things done just for optics. And just like Trump the economy comes before safety of people with Biden just the same.

If you’ve read my posts, you know I’m in Florida. Most of them have not masked up for a long time now even though there is a slight uptick the past two weeks. The mandate to mask up falls upon local jurisdictions, not Joe Biden. And I can tell you that even when there were county-wide decrees that you were required to wear a mask in public places there were plenty of people here who ignored it.

Covid was going to spread no matter what and it is not Biden’s cross to bear if the public decides to spread it to each other. And Omicron came out of South Africa and in several weeks had colonized the globe.

You know what Biden did? Something highly unpopular with many Americans. He mandated vaccinations or regular testing within federal agencies and private companies with more than 100 employees. But he could do an Irish jib all day long trying to get Americans to mask up and it wouldn’t make a difference. Those who are going to mask up don’t need to be told to do it. The rest can’t be forced to do it. And covid will spread as a result.

Let’s not even begin to compare the efforts of the two administrations please. One was a grotesque, profiteering, self-agrandizing middle finger to scientific reason and another is doing the best they can. If Europe can’t stop Omicron from spreading, what makes you think that Biden could do any better anyway?

I'm in NY, the local government here took cues from Fauci / CDC that said people with vaccines could drop mask wearing, that is a blunder that falls squarely on this administration. They relaxed and it's come back on them, so many people here stopped wearing masks as a result, it went from 90% adherence down to maybe 50\50 at best. They should have never said people with vaccines don't need to wear masks.

I would’ve been more cautious in making updated masking advisories too. But we’re two years into this and every country is improvising every week and every month on how to protect the public. We’ve had four variants of significance so far and with the mutations come additional changes to vaccine efficacy. The current curveball is not as bad as it could have been since the latest mutation seems far less dangerous, but way more contagious. Still, some people will die from it.

It is wishful thinking to say CDC masking advisories would have changed what is happening in the NYC area though, precisely because of what I said about Florida. You could be 100% masked up and you’ll still get the wave coming from the South, because they do NOT mask down here. And it will spread to every corner of the country because of it, regardless of what the CDC recommends. Your local government could still do what it wants, but even if they followed the CDC recommendations if you think it would have been much different then I beg to differ.

[HarthorneWingo]

New findings are Omicron is mostly head and throat symptoms and not so much in the lungs anymore. That’s good news. It’s much milder in most instances apparently though more contagious.

I also read something about how omicron overpowers delta preventing it from invading the system. I guess omicron’s spikes/keys are so much better at it that it pushes the delta virus out of the way while it does it’s work. Interesting.

[HarthorneWingo]

Props to RS for the great headline

Trump Adviser Worried He’s Not Getting Enough Credit for Trying to Ruin American Democracy

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/jan6-peter-navarro-ted-cruz-green-bay-sweep-1276742/

Looks like Navarro is now a witness against Trump. What’s with all these couple crazy people graduating from Harvard? Pompeo, Scaramucci, Navarro … crazy

[Clyde_Style]

Props to RS for the great headline

Trump Adviser Worried He’s Not Getting Enough Credit for Trying to Ruin American Democracy

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/jan6-peter-navarro-ted-cruz-green-bay-sweep-1276742/

Looks like Navarro is now a witness against Trump. What’s with all these couple crazy people graduating from Harvard? Pompeo, Scaramucci, Navarro … crazy

Ivy League produces tons of scumbags. Bushes went to Yale. Bush Jr. was a drunk in school