OT: Official Mets' 2024 Thread (p. 19)

[Jeffrey]

Baty is a AAAA player.. Vientos is having his sophmore slump. This is my worst fear.

If Baty hits, that would be a big plus, and he could platoon some with Vientos if Vientos struggles. He's got the bat speed and the power and the swing, he just hasn't put it together. He's still got trade value, because other teams see the upside. Not as much value as he used to have, but he's still got some. A bad team could play him every day and tell him to relax and do his thing and he might be fine.

Vientos is a monster, but the K rate is scary and he struggles with off-speed stuff, so you could be right on both counts. If the Cards end up rebuilding this year, they could trade Arenado and NY might be fine. They need a bat at 3rd (Vientos, Baty, Arenado maybe), and a bat at 2nd (McNeil or maybe Baty steps up and Vientos holds 3rd). I'm not overly worried, but obviously, those 2 guys hitting would be better. Boston would probably give away Devers for free at this point and maybe even eat some salary, but I don't think I want him.

Long story short, 3B/2B should be fixable, either internally or by trade. There are enough options, considering they're only looking for #5/#6 bat types.

I'm really hoping Vientos can be that .260 25 homerun guy this year. I'm not expecting anymore than that.

What I'm really wishing for is one of the "pre-arb" young hitters that can step up like Vientos did last year. Whether that is Baty, Acuna, Mauricio, Gilbert, Jett etc.

Obviously, this will help allocate our funds towards another position.

[LFGK]

Baty is a AAAA player.. Vientos is having his sophmore slump. This is my worst fear.

If Baty hits, that would be a big plus, and he could platoon some with Vientos if Vientos struggles. He's got the bat speed and the power and the swing, he just hasn't put it together. He's still got trade value, because other teams see the upside. Not as much value as he used to have, but he's still got some. A bad team could play him every day and tell him to relax and do his thing and he might be fine.

Vientos is a monster, but the K rate is scary and he struggles with off-speed stuff, so you could be right on both counts. If the Cards end up rebuilding this year, they could trade Arenado and NY might be fine. They need a bat at 3rd (Vientos, Baty, Arenado maybe), and a bat at 2nd (McNeil or maybe Baty steps up and Vientos holds 3rd). I'm not overly worried, but obviously, those 2 guys hitting would be better. Boston would probably give away Devers for free at this point and maybe even eat some salary, but I don't think I want him.

Long story short, 3B/2B should be fixable, either internally or by trade. There are enough options, considering they're only looking for #5/#6 bat types.

I'm really hoping Vientos can be that .260 25 homerun guy this year. I'm not expecting anymore than that.

What I'm really wishing for is one of the "pre-arb" young hitters that can step up like Vientos did last year. Whether that is Baty, Acuna, Mauricio, Gilbert, Jett etc.

Obviously, this will help allocate our funds towards another position.

Will def hit more then 25 HR this year

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They got the sweep. 6-3 is a nice start, even if the bats aren't really hitting, but lots of teams struggle to hit in April (cept for the Yankees for some reason).

In other news, Matt Allen plays his first game in 5 years. He pitched 10 innings in 2019, the year he was drafted.

No minors in 2020

Then he missed, 21, 22, 23 and 24. Now he's back. That's a lot of years to miss and it's just low A, but he pitched pretty well,

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/mets-sp-matt-allan-thrives-in-first-minor-league-start-since-2019/ar-AA1Cp6e6?

Marlins tomorrow, then off to Oakland (I mean, Sacramento), then Mini. Lots of AL opponents to start the year this year.

[LFGK]

Pitching is unreal, I knew the pen would be good but even the starters have been good, Nunez gets into the fold and they might have the best pen in baseball, becomes a 5 inning game. 22 Runs through 10 games, and only 17ER, insanity

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Pitching is unreal, I knew the pen would be good but even the starters have been good, Nunez gets into the fold and they might have the best pen in baseball, becomes a 5 inning game. 22 Runs through 10 games, and only 17ER, insanity

All the hitting came from Lindor, Soto, Pete (7 of their 9 hits). Vientos got 3 walks and he's been hitting the ball hard, just not in the right places. so he might be fine, despite the slow start.

Nimmo's hitting .211 but 2 homers, his K rate is in line with last year and .711 OPS, so not good, but almost league average.

The Mets might have given up on Baty and I could see him being traded at this point. A lefty infielder and plus defender at 3rd could be useful, but I don't think they want to be patient with him at this point. He's probably destined to end up on a roster like Pittsburgh or KC or Oakland or something like that. He seems like a good guy and I wish him well.

Taylor vs Siri is an interesting decision. Siri steals more bases and has better defense than Taylor and Siri steals lead to a win in the 3-2 game 2 days ago and added an insurance run tonight, but the fact is, Taylor makes better contact. Taylor's generally a 230-240 hitter type compared to Siri who hit below 200 last year and this year he's 1 for 17, though he has 3 walks. They're roughly equal in terms of power. If the mets can help Siri figure out how to hit 220 or draw enough walks, he's a keeper, but that remains to be seen. It's good to have both guys for now and see who earns playing time and Siri's a guy who can help a team in other ways, even if he hits like crap.

Sleeping bats aside, 7-3 is fun.

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In other news. Vlad got $500 million. I think it's too much for a guy who's destined to be a DH, but he's still a good hitter. I don't know if the Mets should resign Pete if he has a good year. There are still questions about how Pete will age, even if he's off to a good start this year. But, if guys who can hit are hard to find, it's something to think about. Vientos could move to 1st, provided he hits enough to earn it. The Mets have Baez, Mauricio who could maybe move to 3rd or in Clifford's case, first. But Cohen said he wishes Pete well and the Mets will likely make that decision in the off-season. One decision at a time. as they say.

And who knows what's going to happen with the baseball negotiations and next CBA. A few players get gonzo deals, A lot more players find free agency underwhelming and even frustrating. . . . so, the negotiations could be interesting, and perhaps an extended lockout next time around. I'd hate to see that, but I suspect the two sides are far apart, and the rich teams vs poor teams could also be an issue. Deal with that when it happens, I suppose. Too much money and too much at risk to lose a full season, but there's a boatload to be worked out, so I don't think it'll be easy. . . . will be interesting to see how it goes.

and, I type too much. Bad habit.

Go Mets!!!

[mpharris36]

Stearns and the pitching lab is legit. Don't even have arms like Manaea, Montas, Nunez yet due to injury.

The bottom of the order has been rough...we miss McNeil and Alvarez lengthening the lineup but finding ways to win even with the bats off to a slow start shows you the potential of this team.

[LFGK]

Pitching is unreal, I knew the pen would be good but even the starters have been good, Nunez gets into the fold and they might have the best pen in baseball, becomes a 5 inning game. 22 Runs through 10 games, and only 17ER, insanity

All the hitting came from Lindor, Soto, Pete (7 of their 9 hits). Vientos got 3 walks and he's been hitting the ball hard, just not in the right places. so he might be fine, despite the slow start.

Nimmo's hitting .211 but 2 homers, his K rate is in line with last year and .711 OPS, so not good, but almost league average.

The Mets might have given up on Baty and I could see him being traded at this point. A lefty infielder and plus defender at 3rd could be useful, but I don't think they want to be patient with him at this point. He's probably destined to end up on a roster like Pittsburgh or KC or Oakland or something like that. He seems like a good guy and I wish him well.

Taylor vs Siri is an interesting decision. Siri steals more bases and has better defense than Taylor and Siri steals lead to a win in the 3-2 game 2 days ago and added an insurance run tonight, but the fact is, Taylor makes better contact. Taylor's generally a 230-240 hitter type compared to Siri who hit below 200 last year and this year he's 1 for 17, though he has 3 walks. They're roughly equal in terms of power. If the mets can help Siri figure out how to hit 220 or draw enough walks, he's a keeper, but that remains to be seen. It's good to have both guys for now and see who earns playing time and Siri's a guy who can help a team in other ways, even if he hits like crap.

Sleeping bats aside, 7-3 is fun.

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In other news. Vlad got $500 million. I think it's too much for a guy who's destined to be a DH, but he's still a good hitter. I don't know if the Mets should resign Pete if he has a good year. There are still questions about how Pete will age, even if he's off to a good start this year. But, if guys who can hit are hard to find, it's something to think about. Vientos could move to 1st, provided he hits enough to earn it. The Mets have Baez, Mauricio who could maybe move to 3rd or in Clifford's case, first. But Cohen said he wishes Pete well and the Mets will likely make that decision in the off-season. One decision at a time. as they say.

And who knows what's going to happen with the baseball negotiations and next CBA. A few players get gonzo deals, A lot more players find free agency underwhelming and even frustrating. . . . so, the negotiations could be interesting, and perhaps an extended lockout next time around. I'd hate to see that, but I suspect the two sides are far apart, and the rich teams vs poor teams could also be an issue. Deal with that when it happens, I suppose. Too much money and too much at risk to lose a full season, but there's a boatload to be worked out, so I don't think it'll be easy. . . . will be interesting to see how it goes.

and, I type too much. Bad habit.

Go Mets!!!

Bats will be fine, Baty, my god man he is lost, def wont be here in 2 months. Pete probably will be resigned, Imagine we didnt have him rite now and Nimmo/Vientos was the 3-4. Pete should be given a 180-200 over five years.

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[HarthorneWingo]

Senga was in mid season form today

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Baty hit a triple. Soto went hitless, but 2 walks. He has 14 walks in 15 games. 10-5 start is nice and with 2 injured position player starters and 2 injured starting pitchers.

[LFGK]

Good start to the season, put more distance between us and the braves. Once the staff is 100% with this bullpen the team is going to be dangerous, offense will come around as well. Thank god Alonso was resigned and they should look to sign him long term the bat behind Soto. Also, the Yankees stink lol

[HarthorneWingo]

Siri out 4-6 months with a fractured tibia. That leaves Tyrone Taylor as the every day CF which is not acceptable.

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Siri out 4-6 months with a fractured tibia. That leaves Tyrone Taylor as the every day CF which is not acceptable.

If Taylor can repeat what he did last year (2.0 WAR), that's not too bad. Siri is more fun, but Taylor's been above replacement.

I'm curious if they'll try Acuna in CF. He played it some in the minors, or maybe just use him as an emergency option. Or they could do a trade.

Bit of a rough year with injuries so far. Nunez (might be back soon), Blackburn (hasn't pitched yet), Montas, Manea, McNeil, Alvarez, but Stearns is big on having depth on the roster and they're 11-5. Not a bad start.

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And if you haven't seen it, the Vientos double was funny.

https://www.mlb.com/news/mark-vientos-hit-with-bizarre-relay-throw-to-second-base?msockid=27a2f0c302556f742e8ee34103526efd

[HarthorneWingo]

Siri out 4-6 months with a fractured tibia. That leaves Tyrone Taylor as the every day CF which is not acceptable.

If Taylor can repeat what he did last year (2.0 WAR), that's not too bad. Siri is more fun, but Taylor's been above replacement.

I'm curious if they'll try Acuna in CF. He played it some in the minors, or maybe just use him as an emergency option. Or they could do a trade.

Bit of a rough year with injuries so far. Nunez (might be back soon), Blackburn (hasn't pitched yet), Montas, Manea, McNeil, Alvarez, but Stearns is big on having depth on the roster and they're 11-5. Not a bad start.

Not a bad start considering that the ram really hasn’t started to hit. Looking forward to seeing what a healthy Mets team can do once we get these guys back.

I heard that Acuna could see time there because the Mets don’t see Taylor as an everyday player. Drew Gilbert is presently down in Port St Lucie on a rehab assignment and could be in AAA Syracuse sometime next week. If he gets off to a good start, we may see him.

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Not a bad start considering that the ram really hasn’t started to hit. Looking forward to seeing what a healthy Mets team can do once we get these guys back.

I heard that Acuna could see time there because the Mets don’t see Taylor as an everyday player. Drew Gilbert is presently down in Port St Lucie on a rehab assignment and could be in AAA Syracuse sometime next week. If he gets off to a good start, we may see him.

It's too soon for Gilbert, given how little he played last year and how little time he's had in AAA and he's not on the 40. We could see him this year, but I don't think we'll see him soon.

Your guy, Alexander Canario is 2 for 19 for the Pirates. He hits like Siri, at least so far.

I think Azocar will be called up from Syracuse when they decide they need a 2nd CF. It's either him or they go with Acuna in that role, which wouldn't be crazy, though he's only played like 40 games there in his minor league career. Azocar can be waived if he doesn't work out so it's a low risk move.

At some point, a trade might be an option.

[HarthorneWingo]

Not a bad start considering that the ram really hasn’t started to hit. Looking forward to seeing what a healthy Mets team can do once we get these guys back.

I heard that Acuna could see time there because the Mets don’t see Taylor as an everyday player. Drew Gilbert is presently down in Port St Lucie on a rehab assignment and could be in AAA Syracuse sometime next week. If he gets off to a good start, we may see him.

It's too soon for Gilbert, given how little he played last year and how little time he's had in AAA and he's not on the 40. We could see him this year, but I don't think we'll see him soon.

Your guy, Alexander Canario is 2 for 19 for the Pirates. He hits like Siri, at least so far.

I think Azocar will be called up from Syracuse when they decide they need a 2nd CF. It's either him or they go with Acuna in that role, which wouldn't be crazy, though he's only played like 40 games there in his minor league career. Azocar can be waived if he doesn't work out so it's a low risk move.

At some point, a trade might be an option.

I did hear that about Azocar. Nice glove but another weak stick.

I heard that Jeff McNeil played some CF in his rehab assignment.

Will Nimmo ever hit over .230 again?

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I did hear that about Azocar. Nice glove but another weak stick.

I heard that Jeff McNeil played some CF in his rehab assignment.

Will Nimmo ever hit over .230 again?

Sweeping St. Louis is fun. Soto's started to hit. Holmes looking legit. I think it's going to be a fun season.

I heard about Jeff in CF. I doubt well see it in the majors, but Jeff is one of those guys who loves to play. Even in the minors I heard he's just one of those guys who loves being on the field, even when everyone else is ready to go home.

Baty probably gets sent down when Jeff comes up. Acuna is useful in ways that Baty isn't, but if Baty continues to hit, that could be a discussion.

In the minors, Sproat had a nifty outing. McLean had a nifty outing. Both guys have questions, for McLean, it's his walks. For Sproat, it's whether he can make the jump to majors or if he'll struggle like Christian Scott did last year, but it's nice to see some good outings.

[Jeffrey]

I did hear that about Azocar. Nice glove but another weak stick.

I heard that Jeff McNeil played some CF in his rehab assignment.

Will Nimmo ever hit over .230 again?

Sweeping St. Louis is fun. Soto's started to hit. Holmes looking legit. I think it's going to be a fun season.

I heard about Jeff in CF. I doubt well see it in the majors, but Jeff is one of those guys who loves to play. Even in the minors I heard he's just one of those guys who loves being on the field, even when everyone else is ready to go home.

Baty probably gets sent down when Jeff comes up. Acuna is useful in ways that Baty isn't, but if Baty continues to hit, that could be a discussion.

In the minors, Sproat had a nifty outing. McLean had a nifty outing. Both guys have questions, for McLean, it's his walks. For Sproat, it's whether he can make the jump to majors or if he'll struggle like Christian Scott did last year, but it's nice to see some good outings.

I would also like to add that this time last year, there weren't a whole lot of positive news regarding our farm. Some were injured but most were struggling. This year, I think its a little different. There's a few that has done very well and as you mentioned Sproat, McLean doing what they need to do.

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I would also like to add that this time last year, there weren't a whole lot of positive news regarding our farm. Some were injured but most were struggling. This year, I think its a little different. There's a few that has done very well and as you mentioned Sproat, McLean doing what they need to do.

We had some promising starts last year, mostly on the pitching end. Christian Scott, Blade Tidwell, Sproat and Jonah Tong all started out hot last year. Tidwell & Sproat struggled reaching AAA. Scott struggled reaching MLB. The hitters were less good last year, Gilbert & Jett got hurt and Clifford started out slow.

I try not to get too excised about prospects because it's such an unknown. Vientos seems to have worked out. His slow start this year is partly bad luck and his K rate is actually down compared to last year. Last year he struck out nearly 30% of the time, this year he's below 20% and his walks are up. His Babip is below 200, so Vientos might be fine, maybe even improved on last year. Time will tell.

Acuna is interesting. A slow (3 for 19 start), he's been 10 for 26 since then. He's a very interesting player if he can get on base enough. As for players like Gilbert, Clifford or Jett Williams, I have no idea. Gotta wait and see.