Trades and Transactions 2025 IV

[kNicksGmen]

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I like this Huff dude, didn't know it was 2nd rd picks cheap to get him

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How did we get this pick again??

Traded our 2022 1st - which I believe turned out to be Jalen Duran a pick before Jalen Williams - for a protected Bucks pick (#19 in 25 traded to Brooklyn) and protected Detroit pick (#16 in 25 traded MIN) and the WAS pick.

In hindsight, would have been better to have just kept Jalen Williams, did a sign and trade with Dallas for Brunson, and not done the Mikal trade.

Mavs refused to do a sign n trade. Maybe they could have been convinced but Knicks could have freed up the money another way also.

[GettinitDone]

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I like this Huff dude, didn't know it was 2nd rd picks cheap to get him

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How did we get this pick again??

Traded our 2022 1st - which I believe turned out to be Jalen Duran a pick before Jalen Williams - for a protected Bucks pick (#19 in 25 traded to Brooklyn) and protected Detroit pick (#16 in 25 traded MIN) and the WAS pick.

In hindsight, would have been better to have just kept Jalen Williams, did a sign and trade with Dallas for Brunson, and not done the Mikal trade.

Thanks for the Indo

"Just" kept JDub, you have a knack for making things light OBVIOUSLY !! He's an All Star and All NBA Defender

[Ravenxvirall]

If Mikel wants the max we HAVE to trade him. He is not a Max player ata all. Great role player good teammate but not close to a max guy. Giving our war chest up for him was a serious mistake, signing him to a max deal would be a even bigger blunder.

[Polk377]

If Mikel wants the max we HAVE to trade him. He is not a Max player ata all. Great role player good teammate but not close to a max guy. Giving our war chest up for him was a serious mistake, signing him to a max deal would be a even bigger blunder.

Not a mistake at all to trade for Bridges. Knicks got their #3 scorer who plays defense and plays every game. Thibs system did Mikal no favors in the offense. He is a motion scorer not a spot up corner 3 taker. Second year with Mike Brown's motion system will do wonders for him. Mikal still had 18-3-4 on 50/35/81 splits. It wasn't a terrible season at all. They are not trading him.

[knickstape4ever]

If Mikel wants the max we HAVE to trade him. He is not a Max player ata all. Great role player good teammate but not close to a max guy. Giving our war chest up for him was a serious mistake, signing him to a max deal would be a even bigger blunder.

Not a mistake at all to trade for Bridges. Knicks got their #3 scorer who plays defense and plays every game. Thibs system did Mikal no favors in the offense. He is a motion scorer not a spot up corner 3 taker. Second year with Mike Brown's motion system will do wonders for him. Mikal still had 18-3-4 on 50/35/81 splits. It wasn't a terrible season at all. They are not trading him.

2 things can be true. 1) Mikal was misused by Thibs 2) Mikal trade was an overpay

4-5 1st rounders for a player who lacks an elite quality (other than durability), and takes us out of bidding for the next actual star that becomes available. Knicks weren't willing to part w/ the draft capital for Donovan Mitchell who is a more impactful player, but did so for Mikal because of the Nova connection, which was misguided. Bridges is a very good player, not a star, and we gave up the # of picks befitting of a star trade

+ Mikal not being able to shoot 3's above the break is on him, not Thibs

[Moose]

If Mikel wants the max we HAVE to trade him. He is not a Max player ata all. Great role player good teammate but not close to a max guy. Giving our war chest up for him was a serious mistake, signing him to a max deal would be a even bigger blunder.

Not a mistake at all to trade for Bridges. Knicks got their #3 scorer who plays defense and plays every game. Thibs system did Mikal no favors in the offense. He is a motion scorer not a spot up corner 3 taker. Second year with Mike Brown's motion system will do wonders for him. Mikal still had 18-3-4 on 50/35/81 splits. It wasn't a terrible season at all. They are not trading him.

2 things can be true. 1) Mikal was misused by Thibs 2) Mikal trade was an overpay

4-5 1st rounders for a player who lacks an elite quality (other than durability), and takes us out of bidding for the next actual star that becomes available. Knicks weren't willing to part w/ the draft capital for Donovan Mitchell who is a more impactful player, but did so for Mikal because of the Nova connection, which was misguided. Bridges is a very good player, not a star, and we gave up the # of picks befitting of a star trade

+ Mikal not being able to shoot 3's above the break is on him, not Thibs

They made the trade because of the timing with the CBA.

I've posted this before:

1. The Knicks couldn't do this trade next off-season based on

A. Bridges would have been dealt elsewhere,

B. The apron, cap situation would be more difficult to pull off a big trade next off-season,

C. They had the Bogs contract in hand. Look at the roster now. Who can be moved that isn't losing a player of value with a contract to match?

2. Knicks gave up no young players. Not McBride. It's picks only.

3. Nets worked with the Knicks to figure out the cap with weird signings and such, that costs something too.

4. It's a local, rival team, that's an extra pick right there lol

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You can't assume someone like Bane is going to become available, and even then, you see what Bane went for.

Waiting was never happening.

Also, teams up against the aprons would rather have early second round picks than late first round picks.

It makes it easier to manage the cap.

[thebuzzardman]

Knicks FO done getting fat on the holiday weekend and sign that last vet yet?

[thebuzzardman]

If Mikel wants the max we HAVE to trade him. He is not a Max player ata all. Great role player good teammate but not close to a max guy. Giving our war chest up for him was a serious mistake, signing him to a max deal would be a even bigger blunder.

Not a mistake at all to trade for Bridges. Knicks got their #3 scorer who plays defense and plays every game. Thibs system did Mikal no favors in the offense. He is a motion scorer not a spot up corner 3 taker. Second year with Mike Brown's motion system will do wonders for him. Mikal still had 18-3-4 on 50/35/81 splits. It wasn't a terrible season at all. They are not trading him.

I like this FO but they used 5 1st round picks on Tim Hardaway Jr

[Jalen Bluntson]

One Vet mini left to sign. Whoever gets the rookie deal will be a project. The vet mini needs to net a true rotational bench player. We need a true backup PG IMO. Preferably someone taller than 6'1

[DaGawd]

i need bridges traded this week

[Jalen Bluntson]

i need bridges traded this week

You just want him on your Pacers squad.

[Rodimus921]

How good would Josh Hart be if he had a consistent jumpshot??

Would he be a 20+ ppg ?? All star ?

[DaGawd]

How good would Josh Hart be if he had a consistent jumpshot??

Would he be a 20+ ppg ?? All star ?

he basically wouldn’t have been traded as many times as he has been

[Polk377]

Not a mistake at all to trade for Bridges. Knicks got their #3 scorer who plays defense and plays every game. Thibs system did Mikal no favors in the offense. He is a motion scorer not a spot up corner 3 taker. Second year with Mike Brown's motion system will do wonders for him. Mikal still had 18-3-4 on 50/35/81 splits. It wasn't a terrible season at all. They are not trading him.

2 things can be true. 1) Mikal was misused by Thibs 2) Mikal trade was an overpay

4-5 1st rounders for a player who lacks an elite quality (other than durability), and takes us out of bidding for the next actual star that becomes available. Knicks weren't willing to part w/ the draft capital for Donovan Mitchell who is a more impactful player, but did so for Mikal because of the Nova connection, which was misguided. Bridges is a very good player, not a star, and we gave up the # of picks befitting of a star trade

+ Mikal not being able to shoot 3's above the break is on him, not Thibs

They made the trade because of the timing with the CBA.

I've posted this before:

1. The Knicks couldn't do this trade next off-season based on

A. Bridges would have been dealt elsewhere,

B. The apron, cap situation would be more difficult to pull off a big trade next off-season,

C. They had the Bogs contract in hand. Look at the roster now. Who can be moved that isn't losing a player of value with a contract to match?

2. Knicks gave up no young players. Not McBride. It's picks only.

3. Nets worked with the Knicks to figure out the cap with weird signings and such, that costs something too.

4. It's a local, rival team, that's an extra pick right there lol

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You can't assume someone like Bane is going to become available, and even then, you see what Bane went for.

Waiting was never happening.

Also, teams up against the aprons would rather have early second round picks than late first round picks.

It makes it easier to manage the cap.

Exactly. The business element of how the Knicks operate is top notch. He checked all of the boxes for the price and cap hit they could work with to put a competing team together last year. The FO has done a phenomenal job of managing the on court with the business to be seamless.

[Polk377]

If Mikel wants the max we HAVE to trade him. He is not a Max player ata all. Great role player good teammate but not close to a max guy. Giving our war chest up for him was a serious mistake, signing him to a max deal would be a even bigger blunder.

Not a mistake at all to trade for Bridges. Knicks got their #3 scorer who plays defense and plays every game. Thibs system did Mikal no favors in the offense. He is a motion scorer not a spot up corner 3 taker. Second year with Mike Brown's motion system will do wonders for him. Mikal still had 18-3-4 on 50/35/81 splits. It wasn't a terrible season at all. They are not trading him.

I like this FO but they used 5 1st round picks on Tim Hardaway Jr

They could have used the 5 on the actual Tim Hardaway Jr.... it is progress in the right direction. Trust Don Leon and Brock Cap God Aller.

[JayTWill]

2 things can be true. 1) Mikal was misused by Thibs 2) Mikal trade was an overpay

4-5 1st rounders for a player who lacks an elite quality (other than durability), and takes us out of bidding for the next actual star that becomes available. Knicks weren't willing to part w/ the draft capital for Donovan Mitchell who is a more impactful player, but did so for Mikal because of the Nova connection, which was misguided. Bridges is a very good player, not a star, and we gave up the # of picks befitting of a star trade

+ Mikal not being able to shoot 3's above the break is on him, not Thibs

They made the trade because of the timing with the CBA.

I've posted this before:

1. The Knicks couldn't do this trade next off-season based on

A. Bridges would have been dealt elsewhere,

B. The apron, cap situation would be more difficult to pull off a big trade next off-season,

C. They had the Bogs contract in hand. Look at the roster now. Who can be moved that isn't losing a player of value with a contract to match?

2. Knicks gave up no young players. Not McBride. It's picks only.

3. Nets worked with the Knicks to figure out the cap with weird signings and such, that costs something too.

4. It's a local, rival team, that's an extra pick right there lol

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You can't assume someone like Bane is going to become available, and even then, you see what Bane went for.

Waiting was never happening.

Also, teams up against the aprons would rather have early second round picks than late first round picks.

It makes it easier to manage the cap.

Exactly. The business element of how the Knicks operate is top notch. He checked all of the boxes for the price and cap hit they could work with to put a competing team together last year. The FO has done a phenomenal job of managing the on court with the business to be seamless.

If I told you 2 years ago after the Knicks won 47 games that they would trade all their youth and draft picks they had available to trade at that time along with a few core pieces to win 4 more games you wouldn't question some of the decisions this front office has made? Their assets management has been highly questionable especially for a roster that hasn't been a perfect fit together.

The Mikal deal seems like another poor use of assets. They could have pivoted to another player or waited for the price to come down. If Mikal came back to the Nets with that same broken re-worked jumper and the same early season struggle he had with the Knicks I can't imagine anyone would have come close to giving the amount of value the Knicks gave up for him.

[StlHawksFan]

Traded our 2022 1st - which I believe turned out to be Jalen Duran a pick before Jalen Williams - for a protected Bucks pick (#19 in 25 traded to Brooklyn) and protected Detroit pick (#16 in 25 traded MIN) and the WAS pick.

In hindsight, would have been better to have just kept Jalen Williams, did a sign and trade with Dallas for Brunson, and not done the Mikal trade.

You're mixing up a few trades.

The Duren pick was dealt along with Kemba Walker to free up space to sign Hartenstein after we had already freed up enough space to sign Brunson. In the end Hartenstein ended up being so good that he got paid way more than we could offer, but I think everyone would agree he was worth the first.

Here are the trades:
1. Clearing room for Brunson:
Knicks sent Alec Burks, Nerlens Noel, cash, a 2023 2nd round draft pick (James Nnaji was later selected) and a 2026 2nd round draft pick
Pistons sent rights to Nikola Radičević and a conditional 2025 2nd round draft pick that did not convey

Ironically we ended up getting Nnaji later.

2. Getting draft capital (this is where the Washington pick came from)
Knicks sent draft rights to Ousmane Dieng (11th pick)
Thunder sent Denver's 2023 1st round draft pick, the Detroit conditional pick (that we flipped to Minny for KAT), and the Wizards conditional first (that will either be a 2025 late lottery pick or two very good second rounders).

3. Getting Duren as a trade piece:
Knicks sent Denver's 2023 1st round draft pick, 3 2023 2nds, and a 2024 2nd
Hornets sent draft rights to Jalen Duren.

4. Clearing room for Hartenstein:
Knicks sent draft rights to Jalen Duren and Kemba Walker
Pistons sent the 2025 Milwaukee 1st round draft pick (we flipped it to Brooklyn for Bridges).

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[mpharris36]

the Jazz FO is making sure they suck this year...no chance to be good because they don't want to be in an overachieving position

[Polk377]

They made the trade because of the timing with the CBA.

I've posted this before:

1. The Knicks couldn't do this trade next off-season based on

A. Bridges would have been dealt elsewhere,

B. The apron, cap situation would be more difficult to pull off a big trade next off-season,

C. They had the Bogs contract in hand. Look at the roster now. Who can be moved that isn't losing a player of value with a contract to match?

2. Knicks gave up no young players. Not McBride. It's picks only.

3. Nets worked with the Knicks to figure out the cap with weird signings and such, that costs something too.

4. It's a local, rival team, that's an extra pick right there lol

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You can't assume someone like Bane is going to become available, and even then, you see what Bane went for.

Waiting was never happening.

Also, teams up against the aprons would rather have early second round picks than late first round picks.

It makes it easier to manage the cap.

Exactly. The business element of how the Knicks operate is top notch. He checked all of the boxes for the price and cap hit they could work with to put a competing team together last year. The FO has done a phenomenal job of managing the on court with the business to be seamless.

If I told you 2 years ago after the Knicks won 47 games that they would trade all their youth and draft picks they had available to trade at that time along with a few core pieces to win 4 more games you wouldn't question some of the decisions this front office has made? Their assets management has been highly questionable especially for a roster that hasn't been a perfect fit together.

The Mikal deal seems like another poor use of assets. They could have pivoted to another player or waited for the price to come down. If Mikal came back to the Nets with that same broken re-worked jumper and the same early season struggle he had with the Knicks I can't imagine anyone would have come close to giving the amount of value the Knicks gave up for him.

There are only a few opportunities to get something done for a piece that you feel checks your boxes. Mikal is still in his prime, wasn't extended yet so the cap figure worked, didn't have to trade a rotation piece for him, fit next to JB and OG, plays every game and heavy minutes. Who were they going to wait on and who would they have to have given up from the current rotation to make the salaries work and of comparable value? Think about it and 90% is just fantasy.