Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII

[omerome]

I'm not going to lie, this feels like the Decision all over again. I just hope that we make the right decision.

[K_ick_God]

Really?

But: Eisley had a much better track record than Felton before he came to the Knicks. Eisley had been a key player on winning teams. He wasn't great but he was effective. Felton has had seasons where he was ineffective.

So has Lin

Fail.

He did not play until last year, when he had the best half dozen starts (or whatever) than any man ever.

[j4remi]

i'm bored of this whole thing already. just end it.

quoted for truth

[seren]

The only downside of matching Lin is to Dolan's pocket. I still don't get how anyone would support not matching.

[Realmatic]

its probably me, but I just have a bad feeling about tonight. I'll still watch the games because I've been a knick fan since 1st grade, but for once I hope they do the right thing.

[makeitstop]

i'm bored of this whole thing already. just end it.

quoted for truth

Me, too.

[ibraheim718]

The NEts just signed Hump to 12per... WIth Wallace at 10per, williams and Johnson at 20 a apiece, and How much for Lopez? Are they about to have a bigger payroll then the Knicks?

[PainKiller]

Where's our derek jeter, eli manning?

[AllanHoustonFan]

The NEts just signed Hump to 12per... WIth Wallace at 10per, williams and Johnson at 20 a apiece, and How much for Lopez? Are they about to have a bigger payroll then the Knicks?

yup. Also won't bode well for the Knicks in the future when free agents see Proky is willing to spend while Dolan is being "cheap".

[Knicker23]

Lin is the more fun choice and has potential... But to act like we're going to drop off the map bc Felton is here is giving him too much credit.

Lin may be the [perhaps much] better player than Felton... But Felton very well may mesh better with these guys.. And he will certainly be "good enough" to where the pressure is on our stars to perform -- as it should be.

I guess that's where I differ. I don't think Amare and Melo are good enough to win without a third guy on offense who's borderline all-star. The effectiveness of this combo has been overrated from day 1. When Melo was brought in the prevailing mindset was that you could surround them with minimum players and still have an offensive powerhouse.

I don't think they're on the brink of winning a ring either.. But I don't think replacing Lin with Felton/Kidd drops them back a whole lot further.. I agree they may need another big talent to push them over the top, but I'm not sure Lin was going to do that.

Felton may very well be a relatively big drop off from Lin.. But I do think he'll be good enough to put it on Melo/Amare to get it done - as I believe it would have been either way...As opposed to dropping us into irrelevancy.

Kidd knows how to manage a game, I think there's a possibility Kidd could benefit this team more in his ability to get the most out of Melo and Stat in a way neither Lin nor Felton would do - which could makeup for losing however much better you think Lin is than the two...

Lin may be the better player than both, but i'm not convinced Melo/Stat will drop off a whole lot w Kidd or Felton holding the ball as opposed to Lin.... At which point you'd say 'well it's not about Melo/Stat dropping off, it's about winning'... And I think the two are somewhat tied, as we aren't winning anything without those two performing... Lin won a lot of games for us in himself, Felton/Kidd would have to help us win games by making up what they lack from Lin in making Melo/Stat better.

[21shumpst]

Why does everyone say that Felton is a better fit for Woody's offense? Felton'e best statistical stretch came under MDA, just like Lin. This is just baffling to me. It's like people are brain washed into this by a few mediots and then everyone is repeating this stance, without any concrete reasons or evidence.

The only thing I can think of is that, for Melo to thrive, he needs a scrub PG running the show.

[putiger78]

A few days ago I commented that the board was overrating Felton and what he was and placing too much importance on his Knicks tenure. Now I think he is being severely underrated by many. The guy has been a solid NBAer for a while and doesn't deserve to be cast as the fat bum many are suggesting.

[NOOB77]

So Lin = Nash ???

We don't know yet. Very possible. What we know is Felton = Eisley.

Really?

Absolutely. Felton just happened to get more minutes in the league since he was a high draft pick. Otherwise, they are the same player. Eisley was in better shape though.

I don't care about the Felton part I think at most he is an average PG. But Lin = Nash is well .......

[Bill Bradley]

I don't think you get it. This isn't about one move but it's more of a final straw. To me, essentially trading Lin for Felton just reaffirms that Dolan and his cronies don't care about the fans and aren't really interested in winning. It's all about paying off people who are part of their group and who tow the company line. Without Lin, Fields, and Jeffries we are basically a team of guys with poor character who I can't relate to or support on any level. We will be a team of iso chuckers, prima donnas who can't even take their jobs seriously enough to stay in shape. Our PG will be selfish fatass, his backup will be a wifebeater with a criminal record. At SG will get a guy who was just photographed smoking a blunt out of his window. At SF we have a guy that is considered one of the most selfish and overrated stars in the league. At PF we have a guy who only cares about living the superstar lifestyle and who couldn't give a damn about trying on the defensive end. Chandler and Novak are the only guys that I would actually be able to root for on this team.

Lin, Fields, and Jeffries were more team oriented and unselfish players, and instead we are going back to the days of Marbury, Eddy Curry, and Zach Randolph. We become an Isiah team once again and I want no part of it. I wouldn't expect you to understand since you supported every move Isiah made when he was here and bashed other posters for not being on board, but I just can't get with the program.

I hear all of that completely. But for me, I've been resigned to that fact for years now. As an older fan, I figured you'd come to terms with that already. It's just our cross to bear as Knicks fans. Regardless of how much Dolan's moves are all about the money and done with little care about the characters of the players on this roster, I stick with this team through and through, till my death. I'm a New Yorker and I'm a basketball fanatic. I will support them regardless of how **** and dysfunctional they are. Doesn't mean I like everything they do, but I will never give up my allegiance to them simply because of roster moves. 

As for your comments regarding my views on Isiah's move, they are CATEGORICALLY false. I often decried his moves, I just happen to put a positive outlook on everything because it's in my nature as a fan and I prefer to view my teams as positively as I can, knowing full well that no matter what, I will always ride with and bleed orange and blue.

Off to class now, I'll catch up with y'all later.

Well I guess we are just different kinds of fans. I don't believe in spending my time and money on an organization that doesn't care about winning or its fans. That is the only power that fans have- they can choose not to continue to support a rotten product.

Another thing that turns me off to the team is its fanbase, and in particular, posters who bash Lin supporters such as yourself. I have been mortified at the treatment of our new Asian fans on this board. It really has sickened me. Posters who regularly deride them as "bandwagon fans" or "Lin fans" and say things like they can't wait for them to leave are as classless as one can be. We should be welcoming in new fans and people who want to support our players. It's hard for me to regularly see posters attacked simply for being a fan of a player who are not lifelong Knick fans, as if that's such a badge of honor and above the rules of kindness and decency. And yeah, I'm fed up with it and I expect not to be posting on here after today so I don't mind letting them know how I about them. This board is full of children and bullies, and it's sad for me to see that you have become one of them.

[ibraheim718]

The NEts just signed Hump to 12per... WIth Wallace at 10per, williams and Johnson at 20 a apiece, and How much for Lopez? Are they about to have a bigger payroll then the Knicks?

yup. Also won't bode well for the Knicks in the future when free agents see Proky is willing to spend while Dolan is being "cheap".

Prokhorov is hilarious... He makes half of what the luxury tax would cost in one day...

[GONYK]

Why does everyone say that Felton is a better fit for Woody's offense? Felton'e best statistical stretch came under MDA, just like Lin. This is just baffling to me. It's like people are brain washed into this by a few mediots and then everyone is repeating this stance, without any concrete reasons or evidence.

The only thing I can think of is that, for Melo to thrive, he needs a scrub PG running the show.

I guess Woody's offense requires PG's with limited vision, and inability to consistently run the PnR, and a shooter's mentality.

[Red Vines]

I want to take one of Kidd's "sleeping aids" until a decision is made.

[Boss_]

We just need a point guard to pass the ball to melo and amare for iso plays and clear-outs

[seren]

I don't care about the Felton part I think at most he is an average PG. But Lin = Nash is well .......

Who knew Nash would become an MVP in his second year? Are you telling me Lin was not as good last year as Nash was in his second year in the league?

[Ginger Bean]

It seems like the media has gotten their talking points re: Felton being better and tougher and having more heart than Lin. I say he's a goner.