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[3toheadmelo]

lets say we all agree his FA writeups are bad faith for the sake of argument and do away with them. If thats what you want.

You haven't addressed what seems to be the biggest issue him bidding up players he doesn't want on purpose (which has been brought up). How would bish be able to determine what are legitimate bids and what are bids hoffa just wants to get matched or beat?

You can’t. Because Hoffa will lie about all of his bids. But that’s not the biggest issue at all. I never even made any posts about that.

The point is that his write ups are in bad faith for the reasons I stated. And then he will publicly announce bids which defeats the purpose of pming bids to bish.

Agreed on publically announcing bids. I agree on that.

But there seems to be different opinions on what people hate about hoffa the most

You - issues with his FA profiles

KDOT - issues with him bad faith bidding up players he doesn't want

2010 - just thinks he's a "penis head" and hates everything about him

I'm just saying instead of just going through this cycle lets see if we can do something about it. I think we can solve the public announcing of bids and asking people to beat the current offer with a rule . I think that is fair. The other stuff is a pretty tough "grey" area I think would be difficult to touch.

Either way it’s a bad look for Hoffa. But me and 2010 share the same issues about the player profiles. And K-Dot’s issues are legitmate as well. So Hoffa needs to clean up his act for once.

[mpharris36]

You can’t. Because Hoffa will lie about all of his bids. But that’s not the biggest issue at all. I never even made any posts about that.

The point is that his write ups are in bad faith for the reasons I stated. And then he will publicly announce bids which defeats the purpose of pming bids to bish.

Agreed on publically announcing bids. I agree on that.

But there seems to be different opinions on what people hate about hoffa the most

You - issues with his FA profiles

KDOT - issues with him bad faith bidding up players he doesn't want

2010 - just thinks he's a "penis head" and hates everything about him

I'm just saying instead of just going through this cycle lets see if we can do something about it. I think we can solve the public announcing of bids and asking people to beat the current offer with a rule . I think that is fair. The other stuff is a pretty tough "grey" area I think would be difficult to touch.

Either way it’s a bad look for Hoffa. But me and 2010 share the same issues about the player profiles. And K-Dot’s issues are legitmate as well. So Hoffa needs to clean up his act for once.

I have proposed rules to clean up some acts that I have felt are in bad faith and even tried to work with Bish to make a potential rule as fair as possible and people said let people run there teams the way they want. Its tough to crack down on some things people consider bad faith but let others do other things that seem questionable to get a desired result.

[bringbackhoffa]

You can’t. Because Hoffa will lie about all of his bids. But that’s not the biggest issue at all. I never even made any posts about that.

The point is that his write ups are in bad faith for the reasons I stated. And then he will publicly announce bids which defeats the purpose of pming bids to bish.

Agreed on publically announcing bids. I agree on that.

But there seems to be different opinions on what people hate about hoffa the most

You - issues with his FA profiles

KDOT - issues with him bad faith bidding up players he doesn't want

2010 - just thinks he's a "penis head" and hates everything about him

I'm just saying instead of just going through this cycle lets see if we can do something about it. I think we can solve the public announcing of bids and asking people to beat the current offer with a rule . I think that is fair. The other stuff is a pretty tough "grey" area I think would be difficult to touch.

Either way it’s a bad look for Hoffa. But me and 2010 share the same issues about the player profiles. And K-Dot’s issues are legitmate as well. So Hoffa needs to clean up his act for once.

So it wasn't bad faith when you had Tatum, lavine, ayton, and bam come off the bench for 20 plus games or so, so you could essentially tank and secure a better pick and you were only like 2 games out of a playoff spot when you started doing that

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[3toheadmelo]

lets say we all agree his FA writeups are bad faith for the sake of argument and do away with them. If thats what you want.

You haven't addressed what seems to be the biggest issue him bidding up players he doesn't want on purpose (which has been brought up). How would bish be able to determine what are legitimate bids and what are bids hoffa just wants to get matched or beat?

You can’t. Because Hoffa will lie about all of his bids. But that’s not the biggest issue at all. I never even made any posts about that.

The point is that his write ups are in bad faith for the reasons I stated. And then he will publicly announce bids which defeats the purpose of pming bids to bish.

Yea and team benching their star players so you can tank is any better, how is that not bad faith

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Yeah I sure tanked by playing all of my starters after the all star break to try and make the playoffs. If I didn’t “tank”, I wouldn’t have found out point bam was a cheat code. You sound ridiculous once again.

[bringbackhoffa]

You can’t. Because Hoffa will lie about all of his bids. But that’s not the biggest issue at all. I never even made any posts about that.

The point is that his write ups are in bad faith for the reasons I stated. And then he will publicly announce bids which defeats the purpose of pming bids to bish.

Yea and team benching their star players so you can tank is any better, how is that not bad faith

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Yeah I sure tanked by playing all of my starters after the all star break to try and make the playoffs. If I didn’t “tank”, I wouldn’t have found out point bam was a cheat code. You sound ridiculous once again.

Tatum averaged 23mpg in the sim last season cause you tanked his minutes towards the end and only started 61 of 82 games he played. In what realm isn't it bad faith to have a superstar like Tatum not starting every game with his replacement in the starting lineup being royce oneil

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[3toheadmelo]

Agreed on publically announcing bids. I agree on that.

But there seems to be different opinions on what people hate about hoffa the most

You - issues with his FA profiles

KDOT - issues with him bad faith bidding up players he doesn't want

2010 - just thinks he's a "penis head" and hates everything about him

I'm just saying instead of just going through this cycle lets see if we can do something about it. I think we can solve the public announcing of bids and asking people to beat the current offer with a rule . I think that is fair. The other stuff is a pretty tough "grey" area I think would be difficult to touch.

Either way it’s a bad look for Hoffa. But me and 2010 share the same issues about the player profiles. And K-Dot’s issues are legitmate as well. So Hoffa needs to clean up his act for once.

So it wasn't bad faith when you had Tatum, lavine, ayton, and bam come off the bench for 20 plus games or so, so you could essentially tank and secure a better pick and you were only like 2 games out of a playoff spot when you started doing that

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I wasn’t 2 games out of a playoff spot. Go check again. It was more than that. And my record was still essentially the same when I brought them back. You sound dumb af. If I cared so much about “tanking” why didn’t I tank for the rest of the year? I even went on a little winning streak. I could’ve pulled the plug on them to make sure I got a higher pick. So explain that.

[3toheadmelo]

Yea and team benching their star players so you can tank is any better, how is that not bad faith

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Yeah I sure tanked by playing all of my starters after the all star break to try and make the playoffs. If I didn’t “tank”, I wouldn’t have found out point bam was a cheat code. You sound ridiculous once again.

Tatum averaged 23mpg in the sim last season cause you tanked his minutes towards the end and only started 61 of 82 games he played. In what realm isn't it bad faith to have a superstar like Tatum not starting every game with his replacement in the starting lineup being royce oneil

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Tatum was absolute garbage in the sim. He wasn’t helping me win games. Try again. Zach Lavine was much better than him in the sim and I played him 29 MPG. Randle played 28, Bam played 28. Those were my top 3 players on my team. If I was “tanking” they would’ve gotten 20 MPG or less.

[bringbackhoffa]

Either way it’s a bad look for Hoffa. But me and 2010 share the same issues about the player profiles. And K-Dot’s issues are legitmate as well. So Hoffa needs to clean up his act for once.

So it wasn't bad faith when you had Tatum, lavine, ayton, and bam come off the bench for 20 plus games or so, so you could essentially tank and secure a better pick and you were only like 2 games out of a playoff spot when you started doing that

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I wasn’t 2 games out of a playoff spot. Go check again. It was more than that. And my record was still essentially the same when I brought them back. You sound dumb af. If I cared so much about “tanking” why didn’t I tank for the rest of the year? I even went on a little winning streak. I could’ve pulled the plug on them to make sure I got a higher pick. So explain that.

Oh come on we all saw and commented on the fact you were tanking and you would pop in and post a stupid gif. You had your entire starting line up coming off the bench at one point. If you allege my profiles are bad faith I can just as easily allege you were acting with bad faith with your line up manipulations which impacted lottery and playoff seeds

[3toheadmelo]

Agreed on publically announcing bids. I agree on that.

But there seems to be different opinions on what people hate about hoffa the most

You - issues with his FA profiles

KDOT - issues with him bad faith bidding up players he doesn't want

2010 - just thinks he's a "penis head" and hates everything about him

I'm just saying instead of just going through this cycle lets see if we can do something about it. I think we can solve the public announcing of bids and asking people to beat the current offer with a rule . I think that is fair. The other stuff is a pretty tough "grey" area I think would be difficult to touch.

Either way it’s a bad look for Hoffa. But me and 2010 share the same issues about the player profiles. And K-Dot’s issues are legitmate as well. So Hoffa needs to clean up his act for once.

I have proposed rules to clean up some acts that I have felt are in bad faith and even tried to work with Bish to make a potential rule as fair as possible and people said let people run there teams the way they want. Its tough to crack down on some things people consider bad faith but let others do other things that seem questionable to get a desired result.

Telling Hoffa to stop doing his write ups because he’s only doing it for his own benefit and telling him to stop publicly announcing bids would solve some problems at least. We can’t stop him from bidding on players to raise their price though. But that can backfire for him and make him hold the bag.

[3toheadmelo]

So it wasn't bad faith when you had Tatum, lavine, ayton, and bam come off the bench for 20 plus games or so, so you could essentially tank and secure a better pick and you were only like 2 games out of a playoff spot when you started doing that

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I wasn’t 2 games out of a playoff spot. Go check again. It was more than that. And my record was still essentially the same when I brought them back. You sound dumb af. If I cared so much about “tanking” why didn’t I tank for the rest of the year? I even went on a little winning streak. I could’ve pulled the plug on them to make sure I got a higher pick. So explain that.

Oh come on we all saw and commented on the fact you were tanking and you would pop in and post a stupid gif. You had your entire starting line up coming off the bench at one point. If you allege my profiles are bad faith I can just as easily allege you were acting with bad faith with your line up manipulations which impacted lottery and playoff seeds

Yeah a tanking team plays their top 3 players 29 mpg. Keep hitting that crack pipe. I only benched my players for a small period of time to see if I can find better rotation pieces that work because this sim is confusing. And I found out point bam was my best point guard so I played him with all of my starters to try and still make the playoffs. No tanking team still tries to make the playoffs by playing their best players heavy minutes. Just stop.

[2010]

Yea I did over 50 profiles so I can cover up driving up only derrick rose contract.. makes complete sense.. especially considering derrick rose is one of my key offseason targets so I'd just be driving up my own price..

And yes I will enjoy

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[2010]

I guess I have more faith in our group of GM's then you do. Hoffa aint creating any bidding wars for players that those GM's don't want to be it. I think we have already have had our most active GM's come in and say they don't take a word Hoffa says seriously.

Just like him offering to take a top 5 pick for free to save us cap space...no one actually takes him serious.

He’s putting all players on notice for teams that ain’t doing their homework. That works in hoffa’s favor to create a worse market for Siakam.

And even if you don’t think gm’s aren’t listening or taking notes on Hoffa’s profiles, he’s still operating in bad faith period.

lets say we all agree his FA writeups are bad faith for the sake of argument and do away with them. If thats what you want.

You haven't addressed what seems to be the biggest issue him bidding up players he doesn't want on purpose (which has been brought up). How would bish be able to determine what are legitimate bids and what are bids hoffa just wants to get matched or beat?

I don't care so much what he bids. I care about him coercing other GMs to bid and do his dirty work for him. It's that simple. So in that regard, the snitching on what current private high bids are should be outlawed. The posting about "Hey, player XXX is almost at the winning bid finish line and about to sign cheap for XXX, get your bid in now now...hurry!" needs to stop and should be illegal. It's really not hard to solve.

[2010]

Agreed on publically announcing bids. I agree on that.

But there seems to be different opinions on what people hate about hoffa the most

You - issues with his FA profiles

KDOT - issues with him bad faith bidding up players he doesn't want

2010 - just thinks he's a "penis head" and hates everything about him

I'm just saying instead of just going through this cycle lets see if we can do something about it. I think we can solve the public announcing of bids and asking people to beat the current offer with a rule . I think that is fair. The other stuff is a pretty tough "grey" area I think would be difficult to touch.

Either way it’s a bad look for Hoffa. But me and 2010 share the same issues about the player profiles. And K-Dot’s issues are legitmate as well. So Hoffa needs to clean up his act for once.

I have proposed rules to clean up some acts that I have felt are in bad faith and even tried to work with Bish to make a potential rule as fair as possible and people said let people run there teams the way they want. Its tough to crack down on some things people consider bad faith but let others do other things that seem questionable to get a desired result.

Playing guys out of traditional position is nowhere near as egregious as the acts Hoffa commits. In the positionless era with C's playing PG, or acting as primary facilitators like Bam and Jokic, is the reason I think your rule change didn't get enough votes to pass. I think we have seen that Cs at PG isn't that unrealistic after all. But if any GM IRL did the things Hoffa does he'd be blackballed or fined/suspended or punished by having to relinquish picks.

[2010]

So it wasn't bad faith when you had Tatum, lavine, ayton, and bam come off the bench for 20 plus games or so, so you could essentially tank and secure a better pick and you were only like 2 games out of a playoff spot when you started doing that

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I wasn’t 2 games out of a playoff spot. Go check again. It was more than that. And my record was still essentially the same when I brought them back. You sound dumb af. If I cared so much about “tanking” why didn’t I tank for the rest of the year? I even went on a little winning streak. I could’ve pulled the plug on them to make sure I got a higher pick. So explain that.

Oh come on we all saw and commented on the fact you were tanking and you would pop in and post a stupid gif. You had your entire starting line up coming off the bench at one point. If you allege my profiles are bad faith I can just as easily allege you were acting with bad faith with your line up manipulations which impacted lottery and playoff seeds

Says the dude who has a horrible free agent rating and will have to overpay to sign players, directly as a result of tanking.

[Depalma2002]

and you will never make it far by doing that but do you

because if you even make the playoffs you will match up with guys like Embiid, KAT, Harden Tatum, Curry, Luka that don't care that Fournier and Bogs are on good value deals

Hey fournier puts up 19ppg on 40 percent shooting from 3 on 7 attempts a game..and bogs averages 20ppg..

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Only 1 player that fits the superstar player this offseason and the knicks are not letting him go

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Which is why teams with cap space and an appropriately talented rookie contract player and or pick(s) should enter the Jimmy Butler sweepstakes

[El Poochio]

Welcome Strick!!!!

Let Hoffa writeups guide you through thick and thin

[El Poochio]

Ffs needed FA recommendations for Pelicans by Hoffa before he got demoted

[bringbackhoffa]

Ffs needed FA recommendations for Pelicans by Hoffa before he got demoted

You like shooting so Joe Harris, JJ Reddick, Alec Burks, and Mirotic all fit the bill with the cap space situation you have you may even need to clear some more to fit them in...

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[3toheadmelo]

I wasn’t 2 games out of a playoff spot. Go check again. It was more than that. And my record was still essentially the same when I brought them back. You sound dumb af. If I cared so much about “tanking” why didn’t I tank for the rest of the year? I even went on a little winning streak. I could’ve pulled the plug on them to make sure I got a higher pick. So explain that.

Oh come on we all saw and commented on the fact you were tanking and you would pop in and post a stupid gif. You had your entire starting line up coming off the bench at one point. If you allege my profiles are bad faith I can just as easily allege you were acting with bad faith with your line up manipulations which impacted lottery and playoff seeds

Says the dude who has a horrible free agent rating and will have to overpay to sign players, directly as a result of tanking.

Exactly

[3toheadmelo]

Yea I did over 50 profiles so I can cover up driving up only derrick rose contract.. makes complete sense.. especially considering derrick rose is one of my key offseason targets so I'd just be driving up my own price..

And yes I will enjoy

Quote me when you talk to me, so I don't have to look for it. Coward.

Hoffa running from the smoke. But he’ll indirectly come at you with more player profiles cause he pu*ssy