Knicks Get Reddish per Woj

[nedleeds]

We get to see how he is

He's not a rookie. We have 3 years of how Reddish is. So far he's been utterly unplayable. We say all this **** about Knox and how useless he is, well they're the same age and Knox has shot better. We actually have more minutes from Reddish arguably playing with a real NBA point guard and he's just as terrible as Knox. I'd rather start with a fresh pick on year 0 of their rookie scale. Or again just use the pick to get further up in the draft by a few spots. Our only hope of getting a top 50 player is to draft one, or the fading hope that RJ or IQ become one.

[prophet_of_rage]

It’s zion. The plan has to be zion

When Randle went out we lost a lot on the boards. We are not trading scraps unless we get a rebounder in return. It’s gotta be zion next year. Aka Randle ad fillers and future firsts and seconds

Zion isn't a great rebounder.

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[3toheadmelo]

You guys start a gofundme and I might consider writing an article.

No article, no good play.

How about an article for a song?

What type of music. Assuming it fits any genre.

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[Kampuchea]

So Cam was unhappy with his minutes and wanted out of ATL, therefore we have added him to our team stacked with mid-level talent at his position that all deserve minutes, and for a coach who is not very generous to backups with his rotations.

Is this going to end well?

[Chanel Bomber]

How about an article for a song?

What type of music. Assuming it fits any genre.

a medieval song played on a mandolin and using autotune

This is sadly beyond my powers. There's only so much I can do.

[prophet_of_rage]

Let's pretend for a bit.

Knicks get Zion and reproduce the Duke trio.

Assume Randle goes out in the trade. That's it. Obviously it will take a lot more.
But

Leave yourself some role players.
Part of this is you get to debate if RJ continues to improve, or doesn't, or fixes certain flaws or doesn't.
Same for Cam
For the sake of sanity, Zion is the best possible version seen in the short time he's been healthy.

Oh. And all 3 have to start.
Can you build a deep playoff team with two realistic additions etc at C/PF (depending on how you want to use Zion) and PG?

Which handful of young Knicks would you retain to fill out the bench or even start?

What is their ceiling?

Same as at Duke. You don't go deep because Zion still has no jumpshot can't defend and isn't a great rebounder. But he also takes up all the space inside.

It isn't a good mix.

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So much for the NY Dukerbockers!

I think Zion finds a jumper.

I think it could work, maybe, with a stretch 5 and a good shooting PG. Then again, those kinds of players help a lot of teams.
And several 3&D role players on the bench, where the 3 is solid.

I just see the more experienced product playing in New Orleans right now.

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[Chanel Bomber]

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Dope

[cgmw]

Until you have to watch Fox play against a packed on defence.

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Honestly what’s the difference? We’re so hurt up for a legit PG in his prime, I’d take losing with Fox over losing with Randle any day.

Why? What difference does losing differently with veterans make?

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Point guard. I mean not that Marbury did us any favors, but it’s been a while.

Then again, if Fox can’t shoot threes I can see how that might hurt the development of others.

Anyway, this is the Cam thread and just a bullsh*t rumor where they never even mentioned the Knicks so I’ll shut up.

[Spree2Houston]

Zion's body was already breaking down after he got drafted. Now it's compounded with the added weight. I don't think he'll last 5 more years.

[j4remi]

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Spilligion got my favorite album of the past couple years. JID >>>>

[Kampuchea]

Also, the Hawks are betting on addition by subtraction.

They think they can be better without Reddish's minutes. And they probably will be.

That's a red flag.

I see Cam wanted to be traded and requested it months ago

Read on Twitter

Seems the Hawks had little choice here but to trade him. That is less "addition by subtraction" and more about getting anything they can for a player that wanted out.

Given that, this is a good trade for both teams IMO. Although I am concerned with him being happy in NY with our glut of mediocre players deserving minutes in his spot.

[mpharris36]

to really get a sense of who Cam is as a player another follow up trade needs to be made. We really need to clear 24-28 minutes from him. If he is playing the Obi type role for a wing with 5 minute stretches it makes no sense.

Even though the 1st rounder is heavily protected we still shouldn't be throwing it away if we don't have a plan to really see what Cam has.

Yeah, without another move, this trade is perplexing. Trying to put together the rotation once Rose is back, and we assume Kemba is still part of it,

Kemba/Rose
Fournier/Quick
RJ/Burks
Randle/Obi
Mitch/Noel

There's just no minutes for Cam. Unless we're going super small and dropping one of Mitch/Noel from the rotation, have Obi be the backup 5, but I think that's unlikely

Only way he gets minutes once everyone is healthy is if we drop Kemba from the rotation entirely and continue to play Burks in the Elfrid Payton role. But even then, Cam would be competing with Grimes for minutes

I'd say it's proof another trade is coming, but we came into the season doing the same thing, with Grimes and McBride. So, I don't know. I think if it doesn't happen by the game tomorrow, it won't happen until the deadline, which is gonna make for a weird month.

Keeping Burks at PG would resolve it...I wouldn't like it, but it means Kemba gets dealt and then you start Rose when he gets back.

Rose/Burks
Fournier/IQ
RJ/Reddish
Randle/Obi
Mitch/Noel

You can flip Burks and IQ in the second unit but they'd basically share the ball-handling like they do now when they're together. I'm not sure how I feel about it, but if Thibs really likes Burks at PG then I guess this could be a rotation he might employ.

But yeah, I much prefer this being the precursor of another move or moves to come...unless those moves suck.

Even then I don't think Thibs specifically likes playing 10 man rotations especially with his main guys in the high 30's in terms of minutes.

With the above rotation with Randle and RJ 36-40 minute a night guys. Cam and Obi playing 10-12 minutes each still really doesn't provide much value.

Because really is Cam that much better than Grimes in a short spurts?

At the end of the day if they really want to value this trade and give Cam a shot. Fournier or a larger trade that includes the likes of maybe Burks/Obi ect...needs to happen to truly open up bigger minutes.

[snadler]

Between covid, and injuries, you can never have enough depth..

[F N 11]

Raw is saying he believes Scott Perry is the one who wanted to pull the trigger on Grimes lol. Get Perry up outta here.

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[3toheadmelo]

@chanel

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[F N 11]

Cam would prob heal up fast for Saturday. Even if he does, Thibs would prob say he’s not playing because he didn’t practice or some garbage like that.

[Chanel Bomber]

@chanel

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He's not wrong.

[3toheadmelo]

From Jake Fischer who called a lot of signings in the offseason, including Fournier.


Knicks interested in Turner, Levert and Schroder.

Myles Turner appears the likeliest Indiana player to be traded before the deadline, with a list of suitors that includes Dallas, Minnesota, New York, Sacramento, Charlotte and Portland. Toronto was also mentioned by several league personnel as a team to keep an eye on for Turner's services. The Pacers' asking price is said to include multiple first-round picks.

Caris LeVert has known suitors in Cleveland and New York, but so far Indiana has requested multiple first-round picks for the 27-year-old guard as well, sources said. The Pacers have also placed calls assessing the value of Justin Holiday, Jeremy Lamb and Torrey Craig.

There's a strong possibility Dennis Schroder is traded ahead of the deadline. Boston is expected to avoid the tax and therefore likely won't be able to afford the point guard this offseason, which was also why the Celtics moved Daniel Theis to the Bulls last season. New York, Cleveland and Dallas have been mentioned as potential destinations for Schroder.

[evevale]

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def not playing saturday confirmed

he should take all the time he needs to rest up and recover. the kevin knox trashtime minutes will be there for him when he comes back

[Spree2Houston]

Keep in mind that the Hawks drafted Jalen Johnson. He's going to need to play at some point. It probably played a little role in their decision to trade Reddish.