July 1st Free Agency Begins - Catchall thread

Moose · Post #13841 » by **Moose** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 3:36 pm

Zooropa wrote:If Jose has a good year (I suspect he will), some of you guys will never hear the end of it from me.

And if he doesn't?

I'd prefer to move his salary because I would want to save almost 8mill against the cap next season.

I also feel shved, Galloway, and grant can handle the PG duties and our win-loss record won't be all that much different for it.

Knicksfan1992 · Post #13842 » by **Knicksfan1992** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 3:46 pm

Moose wrote:
Zooropa wrote:If Jose has a good year (I suspect he will), some of you guys will never hear the end of it from me.

And if he doesn't?

I'd prefer to move his salary because I would want to save almost 8mill against the cap next season.

I also feel shved, Galloway, and grant can handle the PG duties and our win-loss record won't be all that much different for it.

At this point I'd rather wait it out until mid season or next offseason. there's not a lot of attractive options out tehre to move him. If he can stay healthy and prove to be a good back up for a contender it could be rather easy to unload him. I still think Cleveland would be a perfect fit for him. He's way better than Dellevedova.

delvec19 · Post #13843 » by **delvec19** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 4:10 pm

Chris Mannix of Sports Illustrated posed an interesting scenario in one of his recent columns, suggesting that the Clippers might consider dealing Chris Paul after losing DeAndre Jordan to Dallas via free agency.
First and foremost, Mannix states right off the bat that this isn't even a rumor yet, so this "report/rumor" should be viewed with some major skepticism. That being said, Mannix speculates that the only person out there with a value high enough to entice an offer of dealing one of the leagues top-3 point guards in CP3 would be Kyrie Irving. We'll let you know if this rumor gains any traction, but right now, this is so far off from being a reality it’s not really even worth discussing.

And100 · Post #13844 » by **And100** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 4:14 pm

[unappreciated joke redacted by OP]

Moose · Post #13845 » by **Moose** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 4:15 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:
Moose wrote:
Zooropa wrote:If Jose has a good year (I suspect he will), some of you guys will never hear the end of it from me.

And if he doesn't?

I'd prefer to move his salary because I would want to save almost 8mill against the cap next season.

I also feel shved, Galloway, and grant can handle the PG duties and our win-loss record won't be all that much different for it.

At this point I'd rather wait it out until mid season or next offseason. there's not a lot of attractive options out tehre to move him. If he can stay healthy and prove to be a good back up for a contender it could be rather easy to unload him. I still think Cleveland would be a perfect fit for him. He's way better than Dellevedova.

We'll see what happens. Not sure Shved is back if Calderon is still here. But who knows how the team feels about any of these guys.

Post #13846 » by **NoLayupRule** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 4:20 pm

Blue Ninja wrote:On Williams' defense: Although he was ranked terribly on defense by metrics last year, the year before that, he was actually ranked average or above average on defense by metrics. There was a lot of turmoil in Sacramento last year. Let's see if he gets back to two years ago or is closer to last year on defense.

Im pretty hopeful that his corner 3 can continue and his backdoor cutting will be solid in the triangle

beyond that its gravy

he can handle the ball pretty well and push the pace up court so hopefully he can come into his own with us

Knicksfan20 · Post #13847 » by **Knicksfan20** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 4:21 pm

Kinda hard for Jose not to improve from last season. But I wouldnt judge him from it. We has been a solid player his while career. We know he is a minus on the defensive end, but can space the floor and distribute the ball well. This team is moreally balanced and a better fit for both him and Melo.

Jose is in position to have a much better year a day I think that he will

Post #13848 » by **NoLayupRule** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 4:21 pm

And100 wrote:Think it might be time to put this thread out of its misery.

I think you have a ban coming up

Blue Ninja · Post #13849 » by **Blue Ninja** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 4:23 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:
Blue Ninja wrote:On Williams' defense: Although he was ranked terribly on defense by metrics last year, the year before that, he was actually ranked average or above average on defense by metrics. There was a lot of turmoil in Sacramento last year. Let's see if he gets back to two years ago or is closer to last year on defense.

Im pretty hopeful that his corner 3 can continue and his backdoor cutting will be solid in the triangle

beyond that its gravy

he can handle the ball pretty well and push the pace up court so hopefully he can come into his own with us

I agree, he could thrive here offensively. I like that he isn't much of a ball stopper also. Moves the ball quickly. But, he does need to be somewhat of a decent defender and at least box out on rebounds. Can't have a 4 man that's a completely liability in two major aspects of the game.

Red Vines · Post #13850 » by **Red Vines** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 4:27 pm

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
Story going online now: ESPN sources say Clippers lobbying DeAndre Jordan to reverse his decision to join Dallas and stay in LA with Clips

...

And100 · Post #13851 » by **And100** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 4:27 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:
And100 wrote:Think it might be time to put this thread out of its misery.

I think you have a ban coming up

For joking about how a thread that grew by pages every few minutes last week is now petering out slowly?

delvec19 · Post #13852 » by **delvec19** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 4:28 pm

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 37s37 seconds ago
Story going online now: ESPN sources say Clippers lobbying DeAndre Jordan to reverse his decision to join Dallas and stay in LA with Clips

WTF?

BeagleBoss · Post #13853 » by **BeagleBoss** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 4:31 pm

delvec19 wrote:Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 37s37 seconds ago
Story going online now: ESPN sources say Clippers lobbying DeAndre Jordan to reverse his decision to join Dallas and stay in LA with Clips

WTF?

This can't be legal! If DeAndre changes his mind, Silver should fine him, the Clippers and have them forfeit future picks.

Blue Ninja · Post #13854 » by **Blue Ninja** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 4:35 pm

Red Vines wrote:Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
Story going online now: ESPN sources say Clippers lobbying DeAndre Jordan to reverse his decision to join Dallas and stay in LA with Clips

...

They realize in how much ish they would be without him. Had a few days to scour the market for any big man, and they realize none worth anything would come for minimum. Too bad they didn't try harder sooner. Hope DJ sticks in Dallas, just to watch it all burn and CP3 leave next year.

Fat · Post #13855 » by **Fat** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 4:35 pm

Red Vines wrote:Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
Story going online now: ESPN sources say Clippers lobbying DeAndre Jordan to reverse his decision to join Dallas and stay in LA with Clips

...

Lmao

Triple C · Post #13856 » by **Triple C** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 4:35 pm

Tomorrow all these moves will be official, for now there are only verbal agreements, so it's possible

Post #13857 » by **GONYK** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 4:36 pm

Red Vines wrote:Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
Story going online now: ESPN sources say Clippers lobbying DeAndre Jordan to reverse his decision to join Dallas and stay in LA with Clips

...

That would be PR suicide for DJ

Red Vines · Post #13858 » by **Red Vines** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 4:37 pm

Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA
Piggyback off @ESPNSteinLine: Doc told DJ they didn't know he wanted bigger role. LA offering to hire big man coach & increase DJ's touches.

delvec19 · Post #13859 » by **delvec19** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 4:38 pm

Blue Ninja wrote:
Red Vines wrote:Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
Story going online now: ESPN sources say Clippers lobbying DeAndre Jordan to reverse his decision to join Dallas and stay in LA with Clips

...

They realize in how much ish they would be without him. Had a few days to scour the market for any big man, and they realize none worth anything would come for minimum. Too bad they didn't try harder sooner. Hope DJ sticks in Dallas, just to watch it all burn and CP3 leave next year.

And then come to the Knicks... :nod:

Post #13860 » by **NoLayupRule** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 4:38 pm

Knicksfan20 wrote:Kinda hard for Jose not to improve from last season. But I wouldnt judge him from it. We has been a solid player his while career. We know he is a minus on the defensive end, but can space the floor and distribute the ball well. This team is moreally balanced and a better fit for both him and Melo.

Jose is in position to have a much better year a day I think that he will

Jose with Affalo next to him and Lopez down low is a very different thing than Jose with Smith or Shump or Hardaway next to him and Bargs or Amare down low