July 1st Free Agency Begins - Catchall thread

[HarthorneWingo]

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Not putting this on DJ. Doesn't seem like he wants to not honor his commitment.

Any word from the Mavs or Silver?

[GONYK]

Doc, CP3 and the Los Angeles Floppers are going to be even more hated than before. Is that even possible?

Yea, but CP3 and Doc are doing the right thing in trying to make him come back. It would make them top 3 contender status with Dendre. Ethical or not, if it was the Knicks, I would hope they do the same thing.

CP3 and co. should have shown up to the first meeting if they cared that much

[stuporman]

I wonder if DJ backs out of the verbal agreement and go back to the LAC if it would change the ways teams handle these ' verbal agreements' during the moratorium.

Would it be allowed by the CBA for them to get a signed affidavit saying the FA will sign the contract when the moratorium ends.

The player didn't sign the contract, which would violate the CBA rules, they signed an affidavit as a promissory note that the team could take legal action on to recoup civil damages or something even if the NBA honors the player's reversal of intent and accepts the signed contract.

[NoLayupRule]

I blame this:



DeAndre must've been thinking CP3 shunned him when D-Wade and LeBron (and Gabrielle) got to ride a FREAKING BANANA BOAT!

Im not gonna lie

Gabrielle Union can ride my banana boat anytime



if you know what I mean

nudge nudge wink wink

[kingquan316]

I think if Dallas can make the case that they made other decisions based on that verbal agreement that have cost them in some way, the NBA can do something about it.

My opinion is no. This will never be something that matters to the league. You need a signed contract.

Also by the way, contract law almost always requires a signed contract for anything over a small amount of money. I'd say Jordan is making more than a small amount of money. Not sure about that billion-dollar oil deal -- that sounds like some very unusual exception that I'd have to look at.

But it's moot. The CBA reigns supreme over anything else. This is a special area of law -- collective bargaining agreements. The CBA will be the only recourse Cuban has and I think he has zilcho.

Don't worry, RoLo will probably honor his commitment either way.

It's not just RoLo. Derrick Williams met with them. Kyle O'Quinn looks to be one of the better options available. This could really blow up.

I highly doubt Lopez will back out of his verbal agreement with Phil.

[LJ4pointplay]

I think the story is basically that the Clippers are scrambling and making a last ditch effort.

I can't see DJ really taking this seriously or any of this speculation coming from the DJ camp

end of the day, Clippers screwed this up really bad. They should have had a backup plan in place, and they didn't. They got caught with their pants around their ankles.

[Context]

I blame this:



DeAndre must've been thinking CP3 shunned him when D-Wade and LeBron (and Gabrielle) got to ride a FREAKING BANANA BOAT!

Im not gonna lie

Gabrielle Union can ride my banana boat anytime



if you know what I mean

nudge nudge wink wink

[knicks94]

I wouldn't worry about the Clippers! They still have the Red Holzman, Magic Johnson and Kevin McHale of this era.

[Blue Ninja]

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Not putting this on DJ. Doesn't seem like he wants to not honor his commitment.

Any word from the Mavs or the Silver?

Nothing on twitter from the main guys yet.

[And100]

The NBA doesn't set contract law. It depends on the laws in the state of Texas, and what evidence is available. Unless, the NBA has rules that specifically disallow agreements during this period from being enforced.

The NBA absolutely sets contract law when it comes to their contracts. That's what the CBA is for. It nullifies and replaces any other type of contract law. The CBA reigns supreme here. Could Cuban challenge it in court? Sure. You can always try that. The court will say it's up to the NBA.

And even though Cuban's ego would go in that direction, would he want to go to court? Imagine Jordan showing up to court after being forced to the Mavs?

The endgame wouldn't be Jordan going reluctantly to Dallas, it'd be Dallas getting compensation from LA.

[mpharris36]

Doc, CP3 and the Los Angeles Floppers are going to be even more hated than before. Is that even possible?

Yea, but CP3 and Doc are doing the right thing in trying to make him come back. It would make them top 3 contender status with Dendre. Ethical or not, if it was the Knicks, I would hope they do the same thing.

CP3 and co. should have shown up to the first meeting if they cared that much

bingo, its shady business. It's not the way things should be conducted.

[Red Vines]

Everyone thought DJ made a dumb decision, he has a right to consider that feedback and change his mind.

[kingquan316]

Doc, CP3 and the Los Angeles Floppers are going to be even more hated than before. Is that even possible?

Yea, but CP3 and Doc are doing the right thing in trying to make him come back. It would make them top 3 contender status with Dendre. Ethical or not, if it was the Knicks, I would hope they do the same thing.

CP3 and co. should have shown up to the first meeting if they cared that much

They efffed up, and now they gonna be that guy that is on his knees begging for his girl to give him another chance, but she has her bags packed and ready to leave in the front door.

[K_ick_God]

I think if Dallas can make the case that they made other decisions based on that verbal agreement that have cost them in some way, the NBA can do something about it.

"detrimental reliance"

None of that will apply. The CBA is all that matters. I don't think the CBA has any room for that here, though I suppose the commissioner could just step in and rule by fiat.

That seems like it COULD happen but it's tough. Basically sets a very bizarre precedent where a handshake then FORCES you to sign a contract. Silver is going to force Jordan to sign a contract? I know this might sound crazy to you but that gets into issues of indentured servitude or the like which is not allowed under ANY CBA or other contract-based system lol.

Silver could suspend Jordan or block him from signing with the Clippers, as a way of forcing him to honor his commitment. I wouldn't be that shocked. Yet it does open up a huge can of worms. You can't force someone to work at a specific job or to sign a contract that he or she doesn't want to sign anymore ... as a rule of thumb.

[Governor Dudley]

Deandre Jordan is a babyback bitch.

[HarthorneWingo]

The NBA absolutely sets contract law when it comes to their contracts. That's what the CBA is for. It nullifies and replaces any other type of contract law. The CBA reigns supreme here. Could Cuban challenge it in court? Sure. You can always try that. The court will say it's up to the NBA.

And even though Cuban's ego would go in that direction, would he want to go to court? Imagine Jordan showing up to court after being forced to the Mavs?

The endgame wouldn't be Jordan going reluctantly to Dallas, it'd be Dallas getting compensation from LA.

By compensation, what exactly are you referring to? Draft picks? Players? Cash? All of the above?

[HarthorneWingo]

Deandre Jordan is a babyback bitch.

Yep. Spineless.

[Dirk]

This is so pathetic from the Clippers.

Can you imagine if the Mavs would now be offering more money to Lopez?

The NBA will have to address this in the future.

[knicks94]

Deandre Jordan is the Rajon Rondo of big men! He will show his true deficiencies once he is no longer surrounded by superstars!

[Jeff Van Gully]

I wouldn't worry about the Clippers! They still have the Red Holzman, Magic Johnson and Kevin McHale of this era.

you mean red auerbach?

holzman was the knicks' legendary coach of the time.