Around the nba part 7

[frogfood]

Seriously? Rubio shoots 36% and that's WITH him avoiding as many jumpers as possible. He also cannot finish, something the other 2 are much better at.

edit: I understand he is shooting better, but not by much. He is a non threat, scoring-wise. He is that dude people sag off of.

[Thugger HBC]

Seriously? Rubio shoots 36% and that's WITH him avoiding as many jumpers as possible. He also cannot finish, something the other 2 are much better at.

edit: I understand he is shooting better, but not by much. He is a non threat, scoring-wise. He is that dude people sag off of.

What would you guess is the league average for pg shooting?

[GettinitDone]

19 and 11 in only 30 MINS!! (chilling on the bench all 4th quarter). When he played Rockets (only led by him and Asik and bunch of scrubs) led by as many as 25 pts, and in that 4th quarter without him, the Magic showed how scrubs Rockets really were, cutting the lead to 5pts.

That is SUB-PAR? New York State of "standard" indeed!!

If that is sub-par, actually it means you expect more of Lin, which means you know his ceiling is much higher than 19 and 11. Great compliment. And at the same time, that standard makes Ray Felton seem smaller and smaller.

[K_ick_God]

List all the recent former legit "UNTOUCHABLE" trade assets below:

1. Rodrigue Beaubois
2. Avery Bradley
3. JJ Hickson

It's really true. The NBA landscape is littered with former great-looking prospects.

[Quick Kick]

I hope you get IP banned. @ GID

[Thugger HBC]

19 and 11 in only 30 MINS!! (chilling on the bench all 4th quarter). When he played Rockets (only led by him and Asik and bunch of scrubs) led by as many as 25 pts, and in that 4th quarter without him, the Magic showed how scrubs Rockets really were, cutting the lead to 5pts.

That is SUB-PAR? New York State of "standard" indeed!!

If that is sub-par, actually it means you expect more of Lin, which means you know his ceiling is much higher than 19 and 11. Great compliment. And at the same time, that standard makes Ray Felton seem smaller and smaller.

Dude calm down, I probably love Lin more than you, difference is I can recognize flaws in players and not get bent like they're my mate on the other side of the bed.

None of those three are good shooters, sure they can have a great game, or several in a row.

Rubio had a career-high 23 points (6-12 FG, 1-2 3Pt, 10-12 FT), 10 rebounds, and nine assists Saturday in the loss to the Grizzlies.

It happens.

[NoLayupRule]

Seriously? Rubio shoots 36% and that's WITH him avoiding as many jumpers as possible. He also cannot finish, something the other 2 are much better at.

edit: I understand he is shooting better, but not by much. He is a non threat, scoring-wise. He is that dude people sag off of.

What would you guess is the league average for pg shooting?

Rondo was the same. more or less

Shooting can be learned

ill grant you that Rondo was a better finisher at the basket early on though


Still, Id take Rubio on this team in a flash

[frogfood]

GID is obviously trolling at this point.

Thugger, being a threat to score is a tremendous asset, something the other two have imo. Rubio, well, he is turning it around. I guess we'll see if it is sustainable. Personally, I doubt it.

[K_ick_God]

Recapping last night at the point ...

LIN
19 - 11 - 3 - 3 TO (8-16, 2-4)

BRANDON
19 - 6 - 3 - 1 TO (6-15, 4-9)

RUBIO
9 - 10 - 3 - 2 TO (2-11, 0-2)

Which doesn't belong and why.

Considering Rubio is the best of the three, I'd say he doesn't belong.

5 to 1 assists to turnover ratio...awesome, just wahat a pg SHOULD DO.

If only that were true. You could just do one part of your job well and be best man for your job, even if you do all the other things particularly badly.

[Thugger HBC]

GID is obviously trolling at this point.

Thugger, being a threat to score is a tremendous asset, something the other two have imo. Rubio, well, he is turning it around. I guess we'll see if it is sustainable. Personally, I doubt it.

Scoring is not the same as shooting.

None of them can shoot, I've said nothing about being a threat to score, that isn't even what KG's post was all about.

He was trying a lame attempt to focus on Rubio being 2-11.

[GettinitDone]

19 and 11 in only 30 MINS!! (chilling on the bench all 4th quarter). When he played Rockets (only led by him and Asik and bunch of scrubs) led by as many as 25 pts, and in that 4th quarter without him, the Magic showed how scrubs Rockets really were, cutting the lead to 5pts.

That is SUB-PAR? New York State of "standard" indeed!!

If that is sub-par, actually it means you expect more of Lin, which means you know his ceiling is much higher than 19 and 11. Great compliment. And at the same time, that standard makes Ray Felton seem smaller and smaller.

Dude calm down, I probably love Lin more than you, difference is I can recognize flaws in players and not get bent like they're my mate on the other side of the bed.

None of those three are good shooters, sure they can have a great game, or several in a row.

Rubio had a career-high 23 points (6-12 FG, 1-2 3Pt, 10-12 FT), 10 rebounds, and nine assists Saturday in the loss to the Grizzlies.

It happens.

Since February, Lin is making 41+% 3PT

He cann'ttt shooootttttttt

[Thugger HBC]

Recapping last night at the point ...

LIN
19 - 11 - 3 - 3 TO (8-16, 2-4)

BRANDON
19 - 6 - 3 - 1 TO (6-15, 4-9)

RUBIO
9 - 10 - 3 - 2 TO (2-11, 0-2)

Which doesn't belong and why.

Considering Rubio is the best of the three, I'd say he doesn't belong.

5 to 1 assists to turnover ratio...awesome, just wahat a pg SHOULD DO.

If only that were true. You could just do one part of your job well and be best man for your job, even if you do all the other things particularly badly.

So what's the one part of a pg's job you expect him to do well in?

[K_ick_God]

GID is obviously trolling at this point.

Thugger, being a threat to score is a tremendous asset, something the other two have imo. Rubio, well, he is turning it around. I guess we'll see if it is sustainable. Personally, I doubt it.

I'd say it differently. You must be a competent scorer to be a good starting point guard. You don't have to be great or even very good, but you can't be an effective PG if you're inept at scoring the ball.

Rubio is a long ways from hitting par on his scoring ability.

It's not that Lin and Brandon being able to score is just a bonus that Rubio doesn't get the benefit of. He's so little a threat offensively that it makes his value very questionable over all.

[Dr. Detfink]

Good night for the NBA.

Lin's Rockets are just fun to watch. If that team gets ONE two-way big man...they are going to be VERY tough to hold down. Once again, Lin's charismatic never give up attitude is something you cannot measure by stats.

Pistons own the Raptors...and That twin Tower is deadly as ever.

[Fat Kat]

19 and 11 in only 30 MINS!! (chilling on the bench all 4th quarter). When he played Rockets (only led by him and Asik and bunch of scrubs) led by as many as 25 pts, and in that 4th quarter without him, the Magic showed how scrubs Rockets really were, cutting the lead to 5pts.

That is SUB-PAR? New York State of "standard" indeed!!

If that is sub-par, actually it means you expect more of Lin, which means you know his ceiling is much higher than 19 and 11. Great compliment. And at the same time, that standard makes Ray Felton seem smaller and smaller.

Dude calm down, I probably love Lin more than you, difference is I can recognize flaws in players and not get bent like they're my mate on the other side of the bed.

None of those three are good shooters, sure they can have a great game, or several in a row.

Rubio had a career-high 23 points (6-12 FG, 1-2 3Pt, 10-12 FT), 10 rebounds, and nine assists Saturday in the loss to the Grizzlies.

It happens.

Since February, Lin is making 41+% 3PT

He cann'ttt shooootttttttt

[Thugger HBC]

19 and 11 in only 30 MINS!! (chilling on the bench all 4th quarter). When he played Rockets (only led by him and Asik and bunch of scrubs) led by as many as 25 pts, and in that 4th quarter without him, the Magic showed how scrubs Rockets really were, cutting the lead to 5pts.

That is SUB-PAR? New York State of "standard" indeed!!

If that is sub-par, actually it means you expect more of Lin, which means you know his ceiling is much higher than 19 and 11. Great compliment. And at the same time, that standard makes Ray Felton seem smaller and smaller.

Dude calm down, I probably love Lin more than you, difference is I can recognize flaws in players and not get bent like they're my mate on the other side of the bed.

None of those three are good shooters, sure they can have a great game, or several in a row.

Rubio had a career-high 23 points (6-12 FG, 1-2 3Pt, 10-12 FT), 10 rebounds, and nine assists Saturday in the loss to the Grizzlies.

It happens.

Since February, Lin is making 41+% 3PT

He cann'ttt shooootttttttt

He's improving, he still can't shoot.

Wasn't aware a season started in february.

[GettinitDone]

It'd take a young Steve Nash (his first 4 years in the L) about 2-3 games to accumulate 19pts and 11assists. Around 10 games to accumulate 38pts, the total in a game Lin posted twice in his young career.

Rondo, Deron, Billups, in their first 100 games didn't touch that production. Not even close. Just saying you gotta realize the kid has just played his first 100 real games. Ready to give up on him?

I always believe he'll be a Knick again one day... Rockets are our talent farm. ^__^

[Thugger HBC]

GID is obviously trolling at this point.

Thugger, being a threat to score is a tremendous asset, something the other two have imo. Rubio, well, he is turning it around. I guess we'll see if it is sustainable. Personally, I doubt it.

I'd say it differently. You must be a competent scorer to be a good starting point guard. You don't have to be great or even very good, but you can't be an effective PG if you're inept at scoring the ball.

Rubio is a long ways from hitting par on his scoring ability.

It's not that Lin and Brandon being able to score is just a bonus that Rubio doesn't get the benefit of. He's so little a threat offensively that it makes his value very questionable over all.

Rubio knows his limits, his game does involve scoring.

He'd rather set up his team mates and only shoot to keep teams honest.

As much as I like Lin and can't stand Jennings, neither actually run a team as a pg.

I dont know where the bar changed from but from history of watching the game and playing on a much lower level, scoring the basketball has always been the lower protion of what makes a pg solid.

Even a great like Magic couldn't shoot a lick, but he was never viewed as a liability on offense.

[K_ick_God]

It's scoring, not necessarily shooting, and Magic was a major scoring threat.

Thugger you haven't said a thing that contradicts what I'm saying to be honest.

You're saying PG's are not your primary scorers, and that shooting is overrated for a PG ... I never said anything about EITHER of those things really. You're just throwing out distractions.

I'm simply saying that you must be able to score the ball to be a good starter as a PG. Rubio's 2-11 is not irrelevant or besides the point ... lol ... it's a deal-breaker. You can't be a good player or even a starter if you are that bad offensively. Granted he's been better and he's not 2-11 bad ... but too many nights, he is a zero ... a negative ... offensively.

[frogfood]

Rubio knows his limits, his game does involve scoring.

He'd rather set up his team mates and only shoot to keep teams honest.

As much as I like Lin and can't stand Jennings, neither actually run a team as a pg.

I dont know where the bar changed from but from history of watching the game and playing on a much lower level, scoring the basketball has always been the lower protion of what makes a pg solid.

Even a great like Magic couldn't shoot a lick, but he was never viewed as a liability on offense.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... sma02.html

Because Magic wasn't? He was probably their best scoring threat depending on the season? A good PG must be a threat to score ( not nec. shoot). Being terrible allows a trickle down effect where his defender can sag off, and the next guy can double etc etc etc.