Please trade Chandler!!!!

[BasicBall]

I can see Chandler being dealt to OKC, it's a fit in sooooo many ways.

[NoLayupRule]

The only way for the Knicks to even think of a Westbrook acquisition is if we manipulate a 3rd team with a disgruntled star.

Kyrie Irving?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mmb3ccq

Knicks acquire: Russell Westbrook & Kendrick Perkins
(Deals: Raymond Felton, Iman Shumpert, JR Smith, Tyson Chandler, 2015 1st rd swap, & 2018 1st rd pick)

Thunder acquire: Kyrie Irving, JR Smith, Raymond Felton, Andersan Varejao & 2015 1st rd swap via NYK
(Deals: Russell Westbrook, Kendrick Perkins, Reggie Jackson & 2014 1st rd pick)

Cavs acquire: Reggie Jackson, Iman Shumpert, Tyson Chandler, 2014 1st pick via OKC, & 2018 1st rd pick via NYK
(Deals: Kyrie Irving & Andersan Varejao)

in a flash Id make that trade

[Knicks_Fan2]

We are not getting Russell Westbrook. We barely have enough assets for Kyle Lowry.

[NoLayupRule]

We are not getting Russell Westbrook. We barely have enough assets for Kyle Lowry.

no

unlike Lowry Westbrook would be worth going all in for

but I know we are not getting westbrook

[Brooklyn_Yards]

LOL @ the thought of OKC wanting Kyrie over Westbrook.

[Damas]

The only way for the Knicks to even think of a Westbrook acquisition is if we manipulate a 3rd team with a disgruntled star.

Kyrie Irving?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mmb3ccq

Knicks acquire: Russell Westbrook & Kendrick Perkins
(Deals: Raymond Felton, Iman Shumpert, JR Smith, Tyson Chandler, 2015 1st rd swap, & 2018 1st rd pick)

Thunder acquire: Kyrie Irving, JR Smith, Raymond Felton, Andersan Varejao & 2015 1st rd swap via NYK
(Deals: Russell Westbrook, Kendrick Perkins, Reggie Jackson & 2014 1st rd pick)

Cavs acquire: Reggie Jackson, Iman Shumpert, Tyson Chandler, 2014 1st pick via OKC, & 2018 1st rd pick via NYK
(Deals: Kyrie Irving & Andersan Varejao)

Wait what? Not only do we get a useless player in Perkins but we have to give up two first round picks? Giving up future picks is not the way to build a solid team....that isn't gonna work.

Why in blue roses hell are the Cavaliers doing this? Reggie Jackson is solid but Shumpert and Chandler are trash. Not only that but they only get two first round picks that are 4 years apart?

This deal puts OKC over the top but rapes NY and Cleveland in the ass with no lube.

[DowNY]

LOL @ the thought of OKC wanting Kyrie over Westbrook.

Now that KD took the next step, why not?

Westbrook has had 2 injuries in 1 year now.
Kyrie Irving is younger & doesn't rely as much on his athletic ability.
Kyrie is also on his rookie contract for 2 more seasons.
Kyrie has potential to be better than Westbrook.
If it's a trade that can improve the bench & Center position before the playoffs, why not?

[Thugger HBC]

LOL @ the thought of OKC wanting Kyrie over Westbrook.

I'm tickled silly that the article that a fan wrote has everyone geeked now, and combined with the one that has teams valuing Tyson.

Sure they do, but they arent gonna mortgage their chance to contend by handing a away a key piece for him.

[NoLayupRule]

LOL @ the thought of OKC wanting Kyrie over Westbrook.

I'm tickled silly that the article that a fan wrote has everyone geeked now, and combined with the one that has teams valuing Tyson.

Sure they do, but they arent gonna mortgage their chance to contend by handing a away a key piece for him.

most teams consider Tyson the kind of piece that propels them into contention

its only around here that hes seen as some kind of piece of crap

[DowNY]

The only way for the Knicks to even think of a Westbrook acquisition is if we manipulate a 3rd team with a disgruntled star.

Kyrie Irving?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mmb3ccq

Knicks acquire: Russell Westbrook & Kendrick Perkins
(Deals: Raymond Felton, Iman Shumpert, JR Smith, Tyson Chandler, 2015 1st rd swap, & 2018 1st rd pick)

Thunder acquire: Kyrie Irving, JR Smith, Raymond Felton, Andersan Varejao & 2015 1st rd swap via NYK
(Deals: Russell Westbrook, Kendrick Perkins, Reggie Jackson & 2014 1st rd pick)

Cavs acquire: Reggie Jackson, Iman Shumpert, Tyson Chandler, 2014 1st pick via OKC, & 2018 1st rd pick via NYK
(Deals: Kyrie Irving & Andersan Varejao)

Wait what? Not only do we get a useless player in Perkins but we have to give up two first round picks? Giving up future picks is not the way to build a solid team....that isn't gonna work.

Why in blue roses hell are the Cavaliers doing this? Reggie Jackson is solid but Shumpert and Chandler are trash. Not only that but they only get two first round picks that are 4 years apart?

This deal puts OKC over the top but rapes NY and Cleveland in the ass with no lube.

The alternative is having the Cavs keep Varejao & instead of acquiring Tyson, have the Thunder send them Steven Adams. Then have Tyson Chandler sent to OKC in place of Varejao.

That way, the Cavs keep an asset in Varejao for a deal in the off-season since he's an expiring & they acquire a 1st rd pick from this past draft who is very decent to build on in Steven Adams.

HERE'S THE REASON WHY THIS IS NOT RAPE FOR THE KNICKS:

We finally acquire a star PG for Melo, who does not make the max.
On top of that, we could then work the #'s perfectly with Melo's contract to make sure we can sign a 3rd star in 2015 since Westbrook will already be in the fold.
Felton & JR clears almost $10 mil off our 2015 cap, making the Westbrook acquisition even better. Plus we wouldn't have to dish out extra money for Shumpert's new contract.
Westbrook, THjr & Melo would only be on the books for 2015 FA.

[Phish Tank]

as I will repeat earlier: The Thunder are not getting rid of Russell Westbrook

[Thugger HBC]

LOL @ the thought of OKC wanting Kyrie over Westbrook.

Now that KD took the next step, why not?

Westbrook has had 2 injuries in 1 year now.
Kyrie Irving is younger & doesn't rely as much on his athletic ability.
Kyrie is also on his rookie contract for 2 more seasons.
Kyrie has potential to be better than Westbrook.
If it's a trade that can improve the bench & Center position before the playoffs, why not?

Kyrie has been injured in each of his first two seasons, and would be likely to be injured again this season than to believe he'll be healthy.

Him being on a rookie deal is kinda irrelevant, OKC has no tax worries now.

Westbrook is only 3 years and a few months older than Kyrie, so they both have plenty of time to improve, so there's nothing base that Kyrie can not only catch, but also pass him.

That deal has no sense at all for OKC....they take a step back in hopes that Kyrie can catch up.

[Thugger HBC]

LOL @ the thought of OKC wanting Kyrie over Westbrook.

I'm tickled silly that the article that a fan wrote has everyone geeked now, and combined with the one that has teams valuing Tyson.

Sure they do, but they arent gonna mortgage their chance to contend by handing a away a key piece for him.

most teams consider Tyson the kind of piece that propels them into contention

its only around here that hes seen as some kind of piece of crap

No doubt, there's a reason why so many are upset with him, because they know how good he SHOULD be.

The main thing is....a team that believes that Tyson is that piece to take them over the top isn't about to poke their eyes out just to get better shoes.

He isnt THAT kind of player and will not command that kind of haul.

[MKCATL]

wasn't there a report about Chandler always eating lunch with Mills, and the two have become good friends. Mills better not let friendship get in the way.

[DowNY]

ALTERNATE VERSION OF ABOVE TRADE

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ouq5apk

Knicks acquire: Russell Westbrook & Kendrick Perkins
(Deals: Raymond Felton, Iman Shumpert, JR Smith, Tyson Chandler, 2015 1st rd swap, & 2018 1st rd pick)

Thunder acquire: Kyrie Irving, JR Smith, Raymond Felton, Tyson Chandler & 2015 1st rd swap via NYK
(Deals: Russell Westbrook, Kendrick Perkins, Steven Adams, Reggie Jackson & 2014 1st rd pick)

Cavs acquire: Reggie Jackson, Iman Shumpert, Steven Adams, 2014 1st pick via OKC, & 2018 1st rd pick via NYK
(Deals: Kyrie Irving)

[Brooklyn_Yards]

LOL @ the thought of OKC wanting Kyrie over Westbrook.

Now that KD took the next step, why not?

Westbrook has had 2 injuries in 1 year now.
Kyrie Irving is younger & doesn't rely as much on his athletic ability.
Kyrie is also on his rookie contract for 2 more seasons.
Kyrie has potential to be better than Westbrook.
If it's a trade that can improve the bench & Center position before the playoffs, why not?

Kyrie has been injured in each of his first two seasons, and would be likely to be injured again this season than to believe he'll be healthy.

Him being on a rookie deal is kinda irrelevant, OKC has no tax worries now.

Westbrook is only 3 years and a few months older than Kyrie, so they both have plenty of time to improve, so there's nothing base that Kyrie can not only catch, but also pass him.

That deal has no sense at all for OKC....they take a step back in hopes that Kyrie can catch up.

I might add a few things for people who may only watch highlights and not the actual games:
-Westbrook is good defender, Kyrie is not
-Westbrook can play BIG when it matters, Kyrie hasn't made the playoffs
-Westbrook is VERY much a part of OKC's future plans as is Ibaka and of course KD.

[Thugger HBC]

Now that KD took the next step, why not?

Westbrook has had 2 injuries in 1 year now.
Kyrie Irving is younger & doesn't rely as much on his athletic ability.
Kyrie is also on his rookie contract for 2 more seasons.
Kyrie has potential to be better than Westbrook.
If it's a trade that can improve the bench & Center position before the playoffs, why not?

Kyrie has been injured in each of his first two seasons, and would be likely to be injured again this season than to believe he'll be healthy.

Him being on a rookie deal is kinda irrelevant, OKC has no tax worries now.

Westbrook is only 3 years and a few months older than Kyrie, so they both have plenty of time to improve, so there's nothing base that Kyrie can not only catch, but also pass him.

That deal has no sense at all for OKC....they take a step back in hopes that Kyrie can catch up.

I might add a few things for people who may only watch highlights and not the actual games:
-Westbrook is good defender, Kyrie is not
-Westbrook can play BIG when it matters, Kyrie hasn't made the playoffs
-Westbrook is VERY much a part of OKC's future plans as is Ibaka and of course KD.

The part I dont get is the poster is basing the trade off injuries as if Kyrie hasnt had any, and age as if Russ is old.

[DowNY]

LOL @ the thought of OKC wanting Kyrie over Westbrook.

Now that KD took the next step, why not?

Westbrook has had 2 injuries in 1 year now.
Kyrie Irving is younger & doesn't rely as much on his athletic ability.
Kyrie is also on his rookie contract for 2 more seasons.
Kyrie has potential to be better than Westbrook.
If it's a trade that can improve the bench & Center position before the playoffs, why not?

Kyrie has been injured in each of his first two seasons, and would be likely to be injured again this season than to believe he'll be healthy.

Him being on a rookie deal is kinda irrelevant, OKC has no tax worries now.

Westbrook is only 3 years and a few months older than Kyrie, so they both have plenty of time to improve, so there's nothing base that Kyrie can not only catch, but also pass him.

That deal has no sense at all for OKC....they take a step back in hopes that Kyrie can catch up.

Understandable. I do think Kyrie's attitude might blend better with KD & is more of a PG than Westbrook is though.
Also, all small market teams always have tax worries. Lol

[Thugger HBC]

Now that KD took the next step, why not?

Westbrook has had 2 injuries in 1 year now.
Kyrie Irving is younger & doesn't rely as much on his athletic ability.
Kyrie is also on his rookie contract for 2 more seasons.
Kyrie has potential to be better than Westbrook.
If it's a trade that can improve the bench & Center position before the playoffs, why not?

Kyrie has been injured in each of his first two seasons, and would be likely to be injured again this season than to believe he'll be healthy.

Him being on a rookie deal is kinda irrelevant, OKC has no tax worries now.

Westbrook is only 3 years and a few months older than Kyrie, so they both have plenty of time to improve, so there's nothing base that Kyrie can not only catch, but also pass him.

That deal has no sense at all for OKC....they take a step back in hopes that Kyrie can catch up.

Understandable. I do think Kyrie's attitude might blend better with KD & is more of a PG than Westbrook is though.
Also, all small market teams always have tax worries. Lol

Russ thinks he top 10 material....ironically he's proven he is, so his attitude matches his game.

Kyrie by all reports is a bitch.

And how does OKC have tax worries when they've already taken care of it?

They'll make a move when that time comes, but rest assured Russ Durant and Ibaka will NOT get traded.

[Damas]

The only way for the Knicks to even think of a Westbrook acquisition is if we manipulate a 3rd team with a disgruntled star.

Kyrie Irving?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mmb3ccq

Knicks acquire: Russell Westbrook & Kendrick Perkins
(Deals: Raymond Felton, Iman Shumpert, JR Smith, Tyson Chandler, 2015 1st rd swap, & 2018 1st rd pick)

Thunder acquire: Kyrie Irving, JR Smith, Raymond Felton, Andersan Varejao & 2015 1st rd swap via NYK
(Deals: Russell Westbrook, Kendrick Perkins, Reggie Jackson & 2014 1st rd pick)

Cavs acquire: Reggie Jackson, Iman Shumpert, Tyson Chandler, 2014 1st pick via OKC, & 2018 1st rd pick via NYK
(Deals: Kyrie Irving & Andersan Varejao)

Wait what? Not only do we get a useless player in Perkins but we have to give up two first round picks? Giving up future picks is not the way to build a solid team....that isn't gonna work.

Why in blue roses hell are the Cavaliers doing this? Reggie Jackson is solid but Shumpert and Chandler are trash. Not only that but they only get two first round picks that are 4 years apart?

This deal puts OKC over the top but rapes NY and Cleveland in the ass with no lube.

The alternative is having the Cavs keep Varejao & instead of acquiring Tyson, have the Thunder send them Steven Adams. Then have Tyson Chandler sent to OKC in place of Varejao.

That way, the Cavs keep an asset in Varejao for a deal in the off-season since he's an expiring & they acquire a 1st rd pick from this past draft who is very decent to build on in Steven Adams.

HERE'S THE REASON WHY THIS IS NOT RAPE FOR THE KNICKS:

We finally acquire a star PG for Melo, who does not make the max.
On top of that, we could then work the #'s perfectly with Melo's contract to make sure we can sign a 3rd star in 2015 since Westbrook will already be in the fold.
Felton & JR clears almost $10 mil off our 2015 cap, making the Westbrook acquisition even better. Plus we wouldn't have to dish out extra money for Shumpert's new contract.
Westbrook, THjr & Melo would only be on the books for 2015 FA.

I still don't like Shumpert and Tyson heading to the Cavs. Feels too good to be true for us to be trading our players that are garbage to a team that needs a talent boost.