OT:Have you ever experienced a prostitute?

[PaulieWal]

Why do athletes visit prostitutes?

Cheaper, no dining out, won't bitch at you about something and will leave after you bust your nut.

And most importantly no risk of baby mama drama with child support and such.

[Deeeez Knicks]

im getin brainz wile i tiype dis frum a ho. catzup like tumatto sawce homie

[Rasho Brezec]

cause iam getttin brains while iam writing this...ketchup like tomato sauce homie

Fixed.

[CashMoney604]

Please refer to the ladies of the night as Escorts or Lady Companions please.

[jermsknicks]

Please refer to the ladies of the night as Escorts or Lady Companions please.

They are called models the places I have been.

Jaco, CR two bad Dominican jants for 60.

Panama City, Panama Colombianas run wild for the low too.

With the quality in those spots... its hard to argue not calling them models.

[Dr. Detfink]

I find everything and everyone surrounding prostitution utterly pathetic.

Sorry about the offense, I just can't get my head around it. It's so low. Buy three beers, talk to a woman. No luck? Get up, try again next week. Life is about trying hard and getting the **** back up after a beatdown again and again and again... not about buying fake enthusiasm.

Well what if you are someone like Peter Dinklage? I don't know how much sex the average female dwarf gets but I would imagine it's not nearly as prolific as some girl in the East Village.

What if you're handicapped?

Life is not all that black and white as going out with your boys and finding some drunken girl who wants it. Even THEN, I know a bunch of NYC bartenders who foolishly made that mistake and the girl turned out to have some kind of mental illness or tried to have them arrested because when they woke up they couldn't remember what had happened so they assumed they were raped.

The reason why I am not bothered by Prostitution despite it not being for me. Hey, it's more honest than the bar. Guy or woman wants to get off. Plain and simple. Ain't no conversation. No B.S. It's just sex.

[KingDavid]

I really don't know how to express my opinion on this without seeming like I'm on a high horse.

But I can say that I'm not down with that, yet I don't judge those that do. I don't see a need for them personally. I enjoy the thrill and chase and whatnot and if I need to get off, I beat off. I guess I'm not at that age and the profession I'm in has guaranteed vagina at any age.

Granted, I know I'm not going to find bombshells and model looking ones every time or even that often....But it's just not a necessity.

[KingDavid]

I find everything and everyone surrounding prostitution utterly pathetic.

Sorry about the offense, I just can't get my head around it. It's so low. Buy three beers, talk to a woman. No luck? Get up, try again next week. Life is about trying hard and getting the **** back up after a beatdown again and again and again... not about buying fake enthusiasm.

Well what if you are someone like Peter Dinklage? I don't know how much sex the average female dwarf gets but I would imagine it's not nearly as prolific as some girl in the East Village.

What if you're handicapped?

Life is not all that black and white as going out with your boys and finding some drunken girl who wants it. Even THEN, I know a bunch of NYC bartenders who foolishly made that mistake and the girl turned out to have some kind of mental illness or tried to have them arrested because when they woke up they couldn't remember what had happened so they assumed they were raped.

The reason why I am not bothered by Prostitution despite it not being for me. Hey, it's more honest than the bar. Guy or woman wants to get off. Plain and simple. Ain't no conversation. No B.S. It's just sex.

I think he's referring to the general use of prostitutes and not the outliers like the handicapped and dwarfs. His opinion doesn't seem to be all that black and white either, like your metaphor about life.

[Jstarks3]

i dont care what anyone says. "ketchup like tomato sauce homie" is the GOAT line in realgm history. where art thou jcraw

[mrpoetryNmotion]

No, but I did get solicited by one my very first day in South Korea. Good times...

That's strange... Mustve gone to Seoul's Red Light district.

You dont get solicited on the streets walking in Dongdaemun, Namdaemun or Myeongdong, which are high-tourist areas. You mustve gone to some dodgey place.

Source: I'm Korean

I was right outside of Osan Airforce Base at the time...and I was 16 years old.

Does "Songtan Sally" ring any bells? Just noticed that she's memed up now and everything if you google that name.

[Dr. Detfink]

I think he's referring to the general use of prostitutes and not the outliers like the handicapped and dwarfs. His opinion doesn't seem to be all that black and white either, like your metaphor about life.

I might buy that except when it gets to the buy 3 beers, try to get laid, and if it doesn't work try, try again.

I don't think anyone who pays for a prostitute is hung up on rejection.

If you're going to pay $600-1800 for an hour or so with an escort that has fairly decent hygiene, you've thought about this for a fairly good period of time.

[DishAndSwish]

My 2 cents.

First of all, I honestly don't know what the big deal is if we're talking about safe sex between two consenting adults. Safe sex should be practiced regardless of whether you see a prostitute or whether you pick up a girl at a bar. You don't know the sexual history of either and either one is just as likely as the other to have an STD.

Secondly, there's a big difference between street hookers and escorts. The majority of the former often involve women who are victims of circumstance (e.g. drug addicts, sex trafficking, abuse, lack of education etc.) Working "the street" is an inherently dangerous activity, and because they can't resort to the cops for protection, they need to pay pimps, which further victimizes their situation. This is the ugly side of prostitution that may not involve "consent" that does need to be addressed.

Escorts on the other hand, are often well educated and often work independently or for "high priced" agencies with a book of pre-screened clients (think Eliot Spitzer). The internet now allows many escorts to sell their services online from the safety of their home. Many have day jobs and only do it on the side both for extra cash and because they enjoy it. They can screen potential customers and pick and choose who they want to see and when they want to see them, at a safe location.

Working in both law and finance, I know quite a few normal guys who can easily pick up women at bars, but are willing to pay upwards of $1,000 per hour to see an escort because they can. The reasons are many. A lot of these guys tend to be stuck in unhappy marriages, but don't want to get caught in a relationship with another woman. Some just don't want the hassle of being a in a relationship period or don't have time to chase women because they work 100 hours a week. Some are older guys who just want the thrill of banging 23 year old models or college students on a regular basis (which many high end escorts are).

Is any of it sad and pathetic? Well, that depends on your own moral compass. Personally, as long as it involves safe sex between two consenting adults, then I don't know what the big deal is.

[dpgcdr]

Regarding prostitution, if you hire one, how far can you push the boundaries in terms of consensual activities? Say someone gets sexually aroused by water boarding, they pay a prostitute a good amount of money, can they go ahead and subject her to water boarding if she doesn't consent? If she gets forced to do it and injured, does she have an incentive to go to the authorities and are there any legal consequences for the client?

[cibili]

Why do athletes visit prostitutes?

Cheaper, no dining out, won't bitch at you about something and will leave after you bust your nut.

And most importantly no risk of baby mama drama with child support and such.

Paul George wants to believe that, too. Badly.

[Winseb]

Being a het female I've never had any experience with a prostitute, male or female. When I was just a young adult in college however I knew a lot of women that were into that business, and men that didn't mind shelling out large amounts of cash for escorts. I would never dabble in it myself, but I don't look down on anybody that does because everybody has various reasons for doing so.

And everyone talking about STDs and stuff like that, that definitely rings true for those cheap azz, drugged up escorts you'd pick up off the streets, but the professionals and even the non-professionals that have built up reps will almost always be clean. I mean, just think about it-- it's what they do, if they ever had anything they'd be easily found out and would lose everything, especially here in the states where you can get tested easily. I don't know about some countries though, even the ones where it's completely legalized they seem suspect as hell.

[PaulieWal]

Cheaper, no dining out, won't bitch at you about something and will leave after you bust your nut.

And most importantly no risk of baby mama drama with child support and such.

Paul George wants to believe that, too. Badly.

But she was a stripper and a stripper does not always = a hooker/prostitute. Also, if he wasn't paying her for sex regardless of her profession that's a different story then.

[cgmw]

Regarding prostitution, if you hire one, how far can you push the boundaries in terms of consensual activities? Say someone gets sexually aroused by water boarding, they pay a prostitute a good amount of money, can they go ahead and subject her to water boarding if she doesn't consent? If she gets forced to do it and injured, does she have an incentive to go to the authorities and are there any legal consequences for the client?

[Greenie]

Sure if your judgmental or have a low opinion of yourself or have some moral hangup. I have none of those. Any normal man will prefer not having to go to a prostitute but when your single and going through a dry spell it's a better option than going bats**t crazy.

so basically you have a VERY low sense of self confidence and you are/were desperate. gotcha.

copying what I said and rewording it passive aggressively is also kinda sad kiddo. "low opinion of yourself" = "low sense of self confidence".

you sound defensive and bitter that I was and am right. and the ONLY one here with a "low opinion of themselves" is YOU...clearly. if you can't get laid on your own, then you either have physical shortcomings... and/or have serious mental and emotional issues.

Also there were a few times where I traveled as a single guy and I really wanted to get laid and I tried the "normal" way and it didn't work out so I went to a professional. Nothing wrong with that IMHO.

didn't work = girls don't LIKE you. you can't get laid. so you have to pay for it...b/c you're pathetic. and yes there's something seriously disgusting and weird about paying a stranger most likely with std's to get off.

Your pathetic if that is the only way you can or prefer it.

lol the only goddamn "pathetic" one here is YOU. your random defensiveness and passive aggressiveness pretty much proves you haven't gotten laid in half a decade, and are pathetically trying to justify paying a stranger who under other circumstances would have NOTHING to do with your ass.

do you think a future g/f would think you're a real man if she found out you need prostitutes to get laid. lol. no wait, going by your words you probably will never have a g/f again, if you ever have had one.

Also if you think about how much money and time many of us spend in trying to bone, when that is all we really want from a particular chick.

well losers "spend a lot of money" on their chicks. I've actually had chicks spend WAY more money on ME.

p.s. have some f*ckin self respect kid. jesus Christ. justifying the need for prostitution?

Ok guy. How's the view from that high horse?



And talk about overreacting. Your the one that was calling people pathetic. That means most dudes are pathetic then. Because most men in the world have been with a prostitute at some point in their lives. You need to relax bruh, your new here.

That's disgusting and I hope it's not true...

[Greenie]

so basically you have a VERY low sense of self confidence and you are/were desperate. gotcha.

copying what I said and rewording it passive aggressively is also kinda sad kiddo. "low opinion of yourself" = "low sense of self confidence".

you sound defensive and bitter that I was and am right. and the ONLY one here with a "low opinion of themselves" is YOU...clearly. if you can't get laid on your own, then you either have physical shortcomings... and/or have serious mental and emotional issues.



didn't work = girls don't LIKE you. you can't get laid. so you have to pay for it...b/c you're pathetic. and yes there's something seriously disgusting and weird about paying a stranger most likely with std's to get off.



lol the only goddamn "pathetic" one here is YOU. your random defensiveness and passive aggressiveness pretty much proves you haven't gotten laid in half a decade, and are pathetically trying to justify paying a stranger who under other circumstances would have NOTHING to do with your ass.

do you think a future g/f would think you're a real man if she found out you need prostitutes to get laid. lol. no wait, going by your words you probably will never have a g/f again, if you ever have had one.



well losers "spend a lot of money" on their chicks. I've actually had chicks spend WAY more money on ME.

p.s. have some f*ckin self respect kid. jesus Christ. justifying the need for prostitution?

Ok guy. How's the view from that high horse?



And talk about overreacting. Your the one that was calling people pathetic. That means most dudes are pathetic then. Because most men in the world have been with a prostitute at some point in their lives. You need to relax bruh, your new here.

Hey Mase, the rest of your conversation with this guy is a train wreck and I will stay out of it but I do need to point out most men in the US have not visited or patronized a prostitute if all of the studies are to be believed.



http://prostitution.procon.org/view.res ... eID=004119

In reality the number is not even close to half in the US, not unsurprisingly in Cambodia... they are rocking out at 80% of all men on the high estimate.

Thank Jesus

[Greenie]

I find everything and everyone surrounding prostitution utterly pathetic.

Sorry about the offense, I just can't get my head around it. It's so low. Buy three beers, talk to a woman. No luck? Get up, try again next week. Life is about trying hard and getting the **** back up after a beatdown again and again and again... not about buying fake enthusiasm.

What bothers me, is that men would delude themselves into thinking the women involved are super into sex with them. I also intend no offense, but this is part of the fantasy these girls are selling.

Even the biggest nympho has his or her limits, and they want to have sex with partners of their choosing. Now are their dirty tramps who want to bang every man walking without regard for what they look, taste, and smell like? Sure, Ill buy that but I am going to go out on a limb and say those numbers are VERY LOW.

Then the whole "The see girls are artists who enjoy plying their trade, enjoy the act, and work hard to pleasure you because they care about their job" that is kind of crazy talk... do they want you to come back? Sure some of you, not all of you. But not because they want you to be happy, or because they want your approval as sex partners... but because they want your money.

Don't fool yourself into thinking they like it, or you... that really makes you look like a sucker.

Sorry.

Remember they are there for your money, and you are there for their body. YOU might crave their approval "I aint no punk, you like this don't you baby"... sure as much as I like going to my 9 - 5 and I don't have fat, sweaty, disgusting men laying on top of me all day with skin conditions. Now are there good looking professionals who are Johns? Sure there are but I am willing to bet a fair number are pretty much disgusting.

Also even high priced call girls who might have fewer clients and a better quality of client are not necessarily into their jobs, even if they have horrible daddy issues and get paid very well. Some sure, but again you have to be talking about a minority... at the end of the day you are trading bodily fluids for money with people not of your choosing. (yeah yeah I know some can refuse work).

The argument being made that girls who are not prostitutes are JUST as likely to have diseases or MORE so is in fact laughable. Are prostitutes getting checked more often than housewives? Sure, some may be but they are also banging thousands of guys a year not one or two. SO the chances they are going the exposed to a disease is greater by a magnitude of thousands. EVEN if their own husbands cheat on them and have a mistress.

Lets be honest with our selves about what this is and what it isnt.

Bud, it doesn't seem like you're being very reasonable on the topic..

Sure, not every prostitute loves to be with every single client, and of course they may put on an act to make their client feel better because that's what their business is...to show their client a good time, and they can certainly enjoy giving a man what he's lacking in life. In addition, they are human, and if they have an attractive client they can genuinely have a fun time for sure. It's not like some fat old guy comes in and thrusts himself onto her and then bounces...these girls are schmoozed and romanced for the most part to the point where they establish some report ...as result they are comfortable and legitimately willing to satisfy.

Also, as some of us are saying, in regards to the top level girls, they're absolutely not having sex with 1000 men a year. The ones I've talked to say they have maybe 3 men per week max...some of those men request more than a standard hour. They may book them for a whole day or even two and take them out to lavish places as their escort. Again, they only do this a few months a year, so let's say 5 months...their rates are approx $800-$1000 per hour.

Do the math...for arguments sake, let's say they get one all day session out of the 3 per week, and 2 one hour sessions. Let's say the all day session is like, I dunno, approximately a $5000 special, then add two $1000 days...that's $7000 a week, times 4 weeks= $28,000 a month times 5 months =$140,000 per year and only 60 men per year for a couple years until they finish school most likely or open up a business of their own or something...whatever their goal is.

Again, the level of protection they go to ensure they don't catch any diseases...they use rubbers for intercourse and oral, and some don't even kiss. So where exactly would the infection come from? Although it may be possible for high level clients to carry diseases, it's not as frequent as some scumbag off the street looking to bang a 2 dollar hooker.

I know plenty of girls who have had sex with a dude without protection, as well as dudes I know that have had unprotected sex with girls...hell I've done it myself in the heat of the moment when I was younger and stupid...thank god I didn't catch anything, but the fact is that all of us were susceptible to catching something. I'm sure plenty of people here either have done that or know someone who has...therefore, even if it's only %1 of all girls that have slipped up once, the fact is that 100% of prostitutes use protection...that's just the fundamental rule...that statistic alone can argue that point that they are disease ridden. They are probably more likely to get an infection from drug use if we are talking about cheap hookers.

You almost make it seem like the only girls in the world who carry diseases are prostitutes. I used to be in the medical field and it's shocking the things you see and hear about people getting infected. It's funny you mention house wives because I recall one situation where a wife cheated on her husband, caught an std and gave it to her husband. It's possible to get diseases in the most unlikely of situations, but prostitutes are predominantly very careful...especially the top level.

Bottom line is that prostitution has been around for...well, damn near forever...millions of men take part in it, whether they admit it or not...this consists of the highest class of men through the lowest as well as women. It also consists of men who have no problem getting women on their own and those who depend upon their companionship ...even for married men.

Also, regarding that poll...where the hell was I when they ran that? I was never asked...and I'm sure all the people I know weren't...so how can stuff like that be accurate when they aren't asking all of the men in the USA? It actually says how unreliable the study is within the study lol.