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Greenie · Post #141 » by **Greenie** » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:37 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:Just heard Clyde on with Kay and Lagrecca (and you) and he's still amazed that there hasn't been a team meeting during this losing streak. Says it's indicative of a lack of leadership. I guess $125 million doesn't go as far as it used to. (snicker, snicker).

Mr Rabbit · Post #142 » by **Mr Rabbit** » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:39 pm

Was kind of expecting a starting lineup of Shump, Wear, Cleanthony, Melo, and Aldrich tonight. Why? 'Cause fu*k it, that's why. Every other day our whole rotation switch...shout out to Cappadonna.

god shammgod · Post #143 » by **god shammgod** » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:40 pm

Mr Rabbit wrote:Was kind of expecting a starting lineup of Shump, Wear, Cleanthony, Melo, and Aldrich tonight. Why? 'Cause fu*k it, that's why. Every other day our whole rotation switch...shout out to Cappadonna.

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god shammgod · Post #144 » by **god shammgod** » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:42 pm

melo just doesn't have that personality. i think calderon will be the leader when he's back. he's always involved in some kind of intense discussion with melo on the bench while we're sucking.

Greenie · Post #145 » by **Greenie** » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:45 pm

All I want is a consistent starting lineup. The rotation can change but the starting five needs to be set until a bench player supplants the incumbent starter. Swapping out mediocre players for other mediocre players in a starting lineup does nothing for me.

Fat Kat · Post #146 » by **Fat Kat** » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:45 pm

Team meetings are overrated. Word to Doc Rivers.

Post #147 » by **GONYK** » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:49 pm

greenhughes wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Just heard Clyde on with Kay and Lagrecca (and you) and he's still amazed that there hasn't been a team meeting during this losing streak. Says it's indicative of a lack of leadership. I guess $125 million doesn't go as far as it used to. (snicker, snicker).

A team meeting to discuss what?

We lose because we have less talent than the other team. Not because everyone keeps their feelings inside.

Fat Kat · Post #148 » by **Fat Kat** » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:50 pm

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HarthorneWingo · Post #149 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:50 pm

god shammgod wrote:melo just doesn't have that personality. i think calderon will be the leader when he's back. he's always involved in some kind of intense discussion with melo on the bench while we're sucking.

I know. I never really expect that from him. I would think that if he had a bigger role on the team that "the man who shall go nameless for fear of starting a string of head explosions" would call one. I agree about Jose. But really, if you THE star on the team, you bear some responsibility. No?

Post #150 » by **K_ick_God** » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:50 pm

god shammgod wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:
god shammgod wrote:Ian Begley ‏@IanBegley 6s6 seconds ago

On resting Amar'e Stoudemire tonight, Derek Fisher says "we hope that it gives us an opportunity to have him 70-plus nights."

wouldn't it have made more sense to rest him on one of the 300 back to backs we have ? i swear i don't understand a thing he does

Still nothing is as impossible to understand as switching.

actually i understood the switching more. the philosophy behind switching is is simply that it would be better to be caught in a mismatch then give up an open shot. while the results weren't great, at least there was a philosophy. i have no idea what the f*ck fisher is thinking about.

You miss Woody. That's how bad we are.

HarthorneWingo · Post #151 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:52 pm

GONYK wrote:
greenhughes wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Just heard Clyde on with Kay and Lagrecca (and you) and he's still amazed that there hasn't been a team meeting during this losing streak. Says it's indicative of a lack of leadership. I guess $125 million doesn't go as far as it used to. (snicker, snicker).

A team meeting to discuss what?

We lose because we have less talent than the other team. Not because everyone keeps their feelings inside.

I would love to hear you debate Clyde on the topic. :lol:

mamadontcry · Post #152 » by **mamadontcry** » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:58 pm

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Post #153 » by **GONYK** » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:59 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
GONYK wrote:
greenhughes wrote:

A team meeting to discuss what?

We lose because we have less talent than the other team. Not because everyone keeps their feelings inside.

I would love to hear you debate Clyde on the topic.

No need. I don't think Melo is a leader. Don't really think he's that type.

At the same time though, a team meeting to talk about how nobody can defend and only a handful can score is still pointless. We aren't the 2010 Heat underachieving here.

mamadontcry · Post #154 » by **mamadontcry** » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:59 pm

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HarthorneWingo · Post #155 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:02 am

GONYK wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
GONYK wrote:
A team meeting to discuss what?

We lose because we have less talent than the other team. Not because everyone keeps their feelings inside.

I would love to hear you debate Clyde on the topic.

No need. I don't think Melo is a leader. Don't really think he's that type.

At the same time though, a team meeting to talk about how nobody can defend and only a handful can score is still pointless. We aren't the 2010 Heat underachieving here.

I don't think we are this bad. But the defense has been horrendous. I think they need to get on each other to be in the right places and to communicate more. I can't believe that there is nothing for these guy to discuss at 2-7.

No disrespect, but I'm gonna side with Clyde on this one.

EDIT: They could start with the last play of the Magic game.

HarthorneWingo · Post #156 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:05 am

I would like the player who shall remain nameless to get some more PnR opportunities (on offense!). Seems like the only time he gets the ball nowadays in the post. Just because we run the triangle doesn't mean we can run some other basic plays.

Post #157 » by **Thugger HBC** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:06 am

The majority of these players know they arent gonna be returning to the team even IF they play well. Not really sure what they would even talk about as the team doesnt have any particular goal they have set this season other than learning the system. the certainly cant discuss the defense as if talking will make it better.

A meeting would be pointless.

god shammgod · Post #158 » by **god shammgod** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:08 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
god shammgod wrote:melo just doesn't have that personality. i think calderon will be the leader when he's back. he's always involved in some kind of intense discussion with melo on the bench while we're sucking.

I know. I never really expect that from him. I would think that if he had a bigger role on the team that "the man who shall go nameless for fear of starting a string of head explosions" would call one. I agree about Jose. But really, if you THE star on the team, you bear some responsibility. No?

i don't think you can expect someone to change their personality. melo is just too nice actually. i remember artest saying that. that melo wouldn't yell at guys while kobe would basically tell them that they sucked. i know kobe would never have let tyson chandler get away with complaining about shot attempts while sucking on d.

wakkahman · Post #159 » by **wakkahman** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:10 am

I remember an interview with George Karl where he said Carmelo was a leader, but that he was the leader of complaining and sulking ( negative attitude ) . You dont want someone with a negative attitude to be the voice the team rallys around.

Quadruple H · Post #160 » by **Quadruple H** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:10 am

god shammgod wrote:being injured has helped the perception of bargs tremendously. he's gone from a problem to a solution. that's how bad we are.

Yea its crazy to see how many people are acting like his presence is gonna lead to more wins.

Did anyone even watch last season?

Also pretty funny how dramatically the Raptors fortune has turned since getting rid of him