2018/2019 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.)

[King of Canada]

We have Noah and Hardaway eating capspace anyway. Might as well go all in and by the time these contracts expire we will have cap space and probably a great core. It just makes sense, don't understand these NBA GMs...

So then you're a no go on signing Kyrie next off season then? I believe there is plenty of truth to him wanting to sign with us but if we take on Parsons then we can't sign Kyrie. I'm not sure a 1st round pick is worth losing Kyrie to me.

I came here for this, though. Swapping 9 for 4 while taking on that Parsons contract has to have some sort of validity to it. In a year or two you guys will have Frank, Porzingis and one of this drafts top 4 players going into FA with money to spend.

I think Cleveland makes the jump, depending on what Lebron told them the other day. It makes more sense for Memphis, who wants to compete. Our package doesn't help that much. If there aren't other offers though, who knows? It also helps us if Atl is looking at moving down, although all the way to 9 might be a stretch.

It would be a dream though if Kanter opted in, essentially becoming a big expiring.

[jbent87]

So then you're a no go on signing Kyrie next off season then? I believe there is plenty of truth to him wanting to sign with us but if we take on Parsons then we can't sign Kyrie. I'm not sure a 1st round pick is worth losing Kyrie to me.

I came here for this, though. Swapping 9 for 4 while taking on that Parsons contract has to have some sort of validity to it. In a year or two you guys will have Frank, Porzingis and one of this drafts top 4 players going into FA with money to spend.

I think Cleveland makes the jump, depending on what Lebron told them the other day. It makes more sense for Memphis, who wants to compete. Our package doesn't help that much. If there aren't other offers though, who knows? It also helps us if Atl is looking at moving down, although all the way to 9 might be a stretch.

It would be a dream though if Kanter opted in, essentially becoming a big expiring.

gotcha, I read the payroll wrong. I thought he already was in for this coming season. Which was part of my thinking in ways to shed some space to open up options for bringing in the Parsons contract.

[King of Canada]

I came here for this, though. Swapping 9 for 4 while taking on that Parsons contract has to have some sort of validity to it. In a year or two you guys will have Frank, Porzingis and one of this drafts top 4 players going into FA with money to spend.

I think Cleveland makes the jump, depending on what Lebron told them the other day. It makes more sense for Memphis, who wants to compete. Our package doesn't help that much. If there aren't other offers though, who knows? It also helps us if Atl is looking at moving down, although all the way to 9 might be a stretch.

It would be a dream though if Kanter opted in, essentially becoming a big expiring.

gotcha, I read the payroll wrong. I thought he already was in for this coming season. Which was part of my thinking in ways to shed some space to open up options for bringing in the Parsons contract.

No, unfortunately his opt in deadline isn't until AFTER the draft. He'll be holding out until then just to prevent being a trade chip I'm sure. He's actually been trolling about opting in or out on Twitter all Spring.

That being said, we could still make a deal to trade him if he opts in (after draft) or use his cap space to take Parsons if he opts out.

[newyorker4ever]

We have Noah and Hardaway eating capspace anyway. Might as well go all in and by the time these contracts expire we will have cap space and probably a great core. It just makes sense, don't understand these NBA GMs...

So then you're a no go on signing Kyrie next off season then? I believe there is plenty of truth to him wanting to sign with us but if we take on Parsons then we can't sign Kyrie. I'm not sure a 1st round pick is worth losing Kyrie to me.

I came here for this, though. Swapping 9 for 4 while taking on that Parsons contract has to have some sort of validity to it. In a year or two you guys will have Frank, Porzingis and one of this drafts top 4 players going into FA with money to spend.

Not in a year, in two years we will have money to spend cause we would have 3 contracts coming off the books in Parsons, Noah and C.Lee but my point in my post was about how we won't be able to sign Kyrie next off season when he's a free agent and i can't see him signing a one year contract elsewhere just to wait another year for the Knicks to have enough money to sign him. This is all of course if Kyrie does actually want to sign with the Knicks which i think we're definitely one of his top options. Some on here won't care cause they don't wanna take the chance on Kyrie being able to stay healthy but for me, i'd want Kyrie cause he's one of the best players in the NBA when he is healthy and a Kyrie and KP duo would be a great duo. Add that to having Frank with 2 years under his belt and to whoever we draft in this lottery and next years lottery and not only do we have the makings of a great team but we also have a team that would be very attractive to other big name free agents.

[HarthorneWingo]

Doncic wants to come to NY.

[Ray Williams]

Hardaway, O'Quinn(after he opts in) and 2019 unprotected 1st for Kahwi.

[newyorker4ever]

Hardaway, O'Quinn(after he opts in) and 2019 unprotected 1st for Kahwi.

He's going to the Lakers who have a bunch of young pieces to trade and where he wants to go and then he'll be followed there by either Lebron or P.George and then they'll probably trade more young pieces for someone else. The Lakers GM basically has one of the easiest jobs in the NBA cause players want to come to the Lakers and to LA where most live in the off season anyway. All Magic Johnson has to do is sit back and wait for the stars agents to call him.

[LegoKnick76]

I don't think he wants L.A. He's been spending quite a bit of time in N.Y. If I'm the knicks I offer Lee, Hardaway, and 9. Maybe throw in 2019 top 10 protected.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I don't think he wants L.A. He's been spending quite a bit of time in N.Y. If I'm the knicks I offer Lee, Hardaway, and 9. Maybe throw in 2019 top 10 protected.

[Cookies4Life]

I pray Kanter opts out and we replace him on a 4 year deal with Nerlens Noel. Noel's stock has dropped greatly since rejecting that long term deal last year by the Mavs. I'd like to see the team offer him Tim Hardaway Jr type of money to pry him away.

That would shore up our interior and allow this team to focus primarily on obtaining a backup big (maybe keep O'quinn if deal is freindly enough?) and wing players.

[newyorker4ever]

I pray Kanter opts out and we replace him on a 4 year deal with Nerlens Noel. Noel's stock has dropped greatly since rejecting that long term deal last year by the Mavs. I'd like to see the team offer him Tim Hardaway Jr type of money to pry him away.

That would shore up our interior and allow this team to focus primarily on obtaining a backup big (maybe keep O'quinn if deal is freindly enough?) and wing players.

You don't sign a guy in Noel's position to a 4 year deal though. With everything that's happened since he's been in Dallas he's the perfect candidate for a 1 year prove yourself deal and we can offer him the most playing time for him to get his name back to being worth a damn in the NBA so he can showcase himself. 4 years for someone who's fallen way off in Dallas is something that can really hurt us if his head isn't where it needs to be. I'd love to get him on that 1 year deal though.

[Cookies4Life]

I pray Kanter opts out and we replace him on a 4 year deal with Nerlens Noel. Noel's stock has dropped greatly since rejecting that long term deal last year by the Mavs. I'd like to see the team offer him Tim Hardaway Jr type of money to pry him away.

That would shore up our interior and allow this team to focus primarily on obtaining a backup big (maybe keep O'quinn if deal is freindly enough?) and wing players.

You don't sign a guy in Noel's position to a 4 year deal though. With everything that's happened since he's been in Dallas he's the perfect candidate for a 1 year prove yourself deal and we can offer him the most playing time for him to get his name back to being worth a damn in the NBA so he can showcase himself. 4 years for someone who's fallen way off in Dallas is something that can really hurt us if his head isn't where it needs to be. I'd love to get him on that 1 year deal though.

I was thinking 4 years because he could be had at a bargain deal at this juncture because of how things played out last season for him in Dallas.

If the Knicks sign him to a 1 year deal and he ends up having a top notch season (which is possible given he'll have ample minutes to play,) and his next contract could be exponentially higher than what we'd originally sign him for this offseason.

It's obviously a bit of a gamble but based off his age and defensive potential, I'd roll the dice on that one. Maybe something like 4 years and 60-68 million?

[newyorker4ever]

I pray Kanter opts out and we replace him on a 4 year deal with Nerlens Noel. Noel's stock has dropped greatly since rejecting that long term deal last year by the Mavs. I'd like to see the team offer him Tim Hardaway Jr type of money to pry him away.

That would shore up our interior and allow this team to focus primarily on obtaining a backup big (maybe keep O'quinn if deal is freindly enough?) and wing players.

You don't sign a guy in Noel's position to a 4 year deal though. With everything that's happened since he's been in Dallas he's the perfect candidate for a 1 year prove yourself deal and we can offer him the most playing time for him to get his name back to being worth a damn in the NBA so he can showcase himself. 4 years for someone who's fallen way off in Dallas is something that can really hurt us if his head isn't where it needs to be. I'd love to get him on that 1 year deal though.

I was thinking 4 years because he could be had at a bargain deal at this juncture because of how things played out last season for him in Dallas.

If the Knicks sign him to a 1 year deal and he ends up having a top notch season (which is possible given he'll have ample minutes to play,) and his next contract could be exponentially higher than what we'd originally sign him for this offseason.

It's obviously a bit of a gamble but based off his age and defensive potential, I'd roll the dice on that one. Maybe something like 4 years and 60-68 million?

So you'd be paying this kid $15-$17 mil per year for 4 years with the chance of him being a bust or if not a bust then only a defender. I could buy into 3 years at a much lower cost then $15-$17 per and i really don't see a team giving him that much but ya never know i guess. If we did sign him to a one year prove yourself deal and he was showing out then he could also be really good trade bait for us around the trade deadline. I like Noel and his fit playing next to KP but that much money for 4 years scares the shyt out of me and if we got it wrong it would be a huge setback for our rebuild ala J.Noah.

[Cookies4Life]

You don't sign a guy in Noel's position to a 4 year deal though. With everything that's happened since he's been in Dallas he's the perfect candidate for a 1 year prove yourself deal and we can offer him the most playing time for him to get his name back to being worth a damn in the NBA so he can showcase himself. 4 years for someone who's fallen way off in Dallas is something that can really hurt us if his head isn't where it needs to be. I'd love to get him on that 1 year deal though.

I was thinking 4 years because he could be had at a bargain deal at this juncture because of how things played out last season for him in Dallas.

If the Knicks sign him to a 1 year deal and he ends up having a top notch season (which is possible given he'll have ample minutes to play,) and his next contract could be exponentially higher than what we'd originally sign him for this offseason.

It's obviously a bit of a gamble but based off his age and defensive potential, I'd roll the dice on that one. Maybe something like 4 years and 60-68 million?

So you'd be paying this kid $15-$17 mil per year for 4 years with the chance of him being a bust or if not a bust then only a defender. I could buy into 3 years at a much lower cost then $15-$17 per and i really don't see a team giving him that much but ya never know i guess. If we did sign him to a one year prove yourself deal and he was showing out then he could also be really good trade bait for us around the trade deadline. I like Noel and his fit playing next to KP but that much money for 4 years scares the shyt out of me and if we got it wrong it would be a huge setback for our rebuild ala J.Noah.

He's not going to bust out (barring injuries.) And we'd be paying for a defensive minded player to patrol the 4 and 5. I don't expect his offense to evolve much at this stage in his career- he'd be here for defensive and rebounding purposes. His age range makes him a viable target IMO.

If we could lock him in at 15 million per year, I think it would be worth it. This is obviously centered around Kanter opting out. Noah comes off the books I believe the following year (as does Lee?) so we'd be going into the the next offseason with a Frank-KP-Noel-9th pick-next year lotto as our core for the future.

[newyorker4ever]

I was thinking 4 years because he could be had at a bargain deal at this juncture because of how things played out last season for him in Dallas.

If the Knicks sign him to a 1 year deal and he ends up having a top notch season (which is possible given he'll have ample minutes to play,) and his next contract could be exponentially higher than what we'd originally sign him for this offseason.

It's obviously a bit of a gamble but based off his age and defensive potential, I'd roll the dice on that one. Maybe something like 4 years and 60-68 million?

So you'd be paying this kid $15-$17 mil per year for 4 years with the chance of him being a bust or if not a bust then only a defender. I could buy into 3 years at a much lower cost then $15-$17 per and i really don't see a team giving him that much but ya never know i guess. If we did sign him to a one year prove yourself deal and he was showing out then he could also be really good trade bait for us around the trade deadline. I like Noel and his fit playing next to KP but that much money for 4 years scares the shyt out of me and if we got it wrong it would be a huge setback for our rebuild ala J.Noah.

He's not going to bust out (barring injuries.) And we'd be paying for a defensive minded player to patrol the 4 and 5. I don't expect his offense to evolve much at this stage in his career- he'd be here for defensive and rebounding purposes. His age range makes him a viable target IMO.

Again, i like him as a target and fit next to KP but $15-$17 mil per for 4 years is a lot for a team that needs to get this rebuild done right IMO. I'd be much more comfortable around $10-$12 mil per for Noel.

[Cookies4Life]

So you'd be paying this kid $15-$17 mil per year for 4 years with the chance of him being a bust or if not a bust then only a defender. I could buy into 3 years at a much lower cost then $15-$17 per and i really don't see a team giving him that much but ya never know i guess. If we did sign him to a one year prove yourself deal and he was showing out then he could also be really good trade bait for us around the trade deadline. I like Noel and his fit playing next to KP but that much money for 4 years scares the shyt out of me and if we got it wrong it would be a huge setback for our rebuild ala J.Noah.

He's not going to bust out (barring injuries.) And we'd be paying for a defensive minded player to patrol the 4 and 5. I don't expect his offense to evolve much at this stage in his career- he'd be here for defensive and rebounding purposes. His age range makes him a viable target IMO.

Again, i like him as a target and fit next to KP but $15-$17 mil per for 4 years is a lot for a team that needs to get this rebuild done right IMO. I'd be much more comfortable around $10-$12 mil per for Noel.

We wait a year and that number can jump to 20 million per- the kid has the talent to command that type of money if he has a good season next year.

17 is probably a bit too high. If we could lock him in at 15 at max per year, I would definitely go for it. Allows the team to really focus on wing acquisitions for the next couple seasons.

[newyorker4ever]

He's not going to bust out (barring injuries.) And we'd be paying for a defensive minded player to patrol the 4 and 5. I don't expect his offense to evolve much at this stage in his career- he'd be here for defensive and rebounding purposes. His age range makes him a viable target IMO.

Again, i like him as a target and fit next to KP but $15-$17 mil per for 4 years is a lot for a team that needs to get this rebuild done right IMO. I'd be much more comfortable around $10-$12 mil per for Noel.

We wait a year and that number can jump to 20 million per- the kid has the talent to command that type of money if he has a good season next year.

17 is probably a bit too high. If we could lock him in at 15 at max per year, I would definitely go for it. Allows the team to really focus on wing acquisitions for the next couple seasons.

You say he has the talent to command that type of money if he has a good season next year but if he doesn't have a good year next year then we'd still be locked in for another 3 years at that money.

[FemaleDogPlease]

Nerlene Noel is not very good. I guess if he was plaing with Chris Paul he might do damage but he doesnt fit with that the Knicks are trying to do.

[Capn'O]

Lakers can be held over a barrel searching for cap space. If Kanter opts out the Knicks should look at taking on Deng's salary outright along with the 25th pick and maybe Zubac. We can send them back our later 2nd.

Then look at

Jacob Evans
Kieta Bates-Diop
Melvin Frazier

In that range.

[thebuzzardman]

Doncic wants to come to NY.

Based on what intel?