Build a Franchise (Season 4) Draft edition. The Celtics have been SKIPPED. Houston is on the clock until 12AM

[3toheadmelo]

Right now name drops are like bad words lol. Wonder who’s gonna get hit with the first tech

[Context]

He is going number one no doubt:

I would make the official pick now but Hoff is a party popper...

HOFF LETS GET IT DONE NOW!

[King of Canada]

bro, we all agree--stop worrying yourself...you wont be stuck for 10 hours at the computer

now lets get back to who "blank" is please

sorry didn't mean to take away your thunder you have the #1 pick. Now go get the guy that is going to yam it on Luka

no need to apologize...but trust me- I wouldnt wish that slot pain on anyone we got you- we will vote it in...
as far as "blank" yep, you remembered- he gonna bang one on lukas head!
hi KOC

[DOT]

Right now name drops are like bad words lol. Wonder who’s gonna get hit with the first tech

hoffa when he can't call out guys who are slipping

[2010]

Then Player A is an idiot and should have traded down to receive another asset.

What if no one wanted to give another asset cuz they know by simply not giving one up, it increases the odds "GM A" may just let the slot skip to save on the cap hit. In that case "GM B" may not have the cap space to take advantage of the move up in slot. So "GM C" keeps the asset, still nets their preferred player cuz they can afford the cap hit, and only "GM B" gets screwed if he wanted the player that "GM C" jumped ahead of him for.

This is all avoided if slots follow the team originally tied to them in instances of being skipped.

If none of the other players behind Player A want to move up then they will all submit their ranked choice, pass, and Player A gets stuck with the mock player. There's no incentive to Player A doing that.

But you are missing my point. Nevermind GM A. How about GM B getting screwed cuz GM C, D, or E took his guy. All because GM A allowed himself to be skipped and since GM B doesn't have the funds to take advantage, he loses a target to a GM behind him. While GM A goes unpunished cuz he didn't wanna pay for the slot he was in anyway, yet he still gets a player of his liking.

Just tie picks to the salary slot. Why all the overcomplication?

[mpharris36]

Right now name drops are like bad words lol. Wonder who’s gonna get hit with the first tech

hoffa when he can't call out guys who are slipping

sounds like hoffa doesn't even know who is in the 2020 draft he is asking if the NY post is good source

[King of Canada]

Right now name drops are like bad words lol. Wonder who’s gonna get hit with the first tech

hoffa when he can't call out guys who are slipping

Hoffa eating poutine after he makes his selection

[Deeeez Knicks]

He is going number one no doubt:

First pick tonight and then everyone will get blacked out drunk on blanco. Everyone will wake up a week later with nbadraftnet picks

[3toheadmelo]

hoffa when he can't call out guys who are slipping

sounds like hoffa doesn't even know who is in the 2020 draft he is asking if the NY post is good source

NY post got the real plug

[mpharris36]

What if no one wanted to give another asset cuz they know by simply not giving one up, it increases the odds "GM A" may just let the slot skip to save on the cap hit. In that case "GM B" may not have the cap space to take advantage of the move up in slot. So "GM C" keeps the asset, still nets their preferred player cuz they can afford the cap hit, and only "GM B" gets screwed if he wanted the player that "GM C" jumped ahead of him for.

This is all avoided if slots follow the team originally tied to them in instances of being skipped.

If none of the other players behind Player A want to move up then they will all submit their ranked choice, pass, and Player A gets stuck with the mock player. There's no incentive to Player A doing that.

But you are missing my point. Nevermind GM A. How about GM B getting screwed cuz GM C, D, or E took his guy. All because GM A allowed himself to be skipped and since GM B doesn't have the funds to take advantage, he loses a target to a GM behind him. While GM A goes unpunished cuz he didn't wanna pay for the slot he was in anyway, yet he still gets a player of his liking.

Just tie picks to the salary slot. Why all the overcomplication?

its also not a knock on anyone. But as we were talking and going back and forth early it was brought to our attention that with the way we currently do it (which seems unlikely) but could still happen someone can manipulate there draft slot for cap space purposes. Most discussed and agreed this is a bad faith tactic. A small amendment could fix this issue that seems like nearly every GM would be on board with because it doesn't hurt anyone but the team sitting on the pick. So seems like the most straight forward amendment ever. Does anyone think there is one bad thing to tie the draft slot with the $? I can't see one objection.

[2010]

To make it as easy for people to see, just look at it like this.

The draft salary slot system should be set to encourage people to make their picks on time, i.e. within their slot.

Therefore, it should be set up so that the only person potentially punished by a pick being skipped, is the person who didn't make their pick on time (within their slot).

We shouldn't have a scenario where a GM 2 or 3 slots behind benefits from the GM who got skipped, while the subsequent GM who had the next pick gets screwed and can't take advantage of nabbing a player they could have wanted, cuz they planned all offseason to have their payroll set to absorb their exact salary slot.

[HEZI]

This thread was supposed to be fun, y'all derailing the **** out of it

Word!

Lets party!

Hit my music

Watch on YouTube

[mpharris36]

This thread was supposed to be fun, y'all derailing the **** out of it

Word!

Lets party!

Hit my music

Watch on YouTube

btw I really like Schroder pickup for you. Seems to compliment your two bigs very nicely

[HEZI]

This thread was supposed to be fun, y'all derailing the **** out of it

Word!

Lets party!

Hit my music

Watch on YouTube

btw I really like Schroder pickup for you. Seems to compliment your two bigs very nicely

Thanks brother but let me tell you something brother NWO doesn't have 2 bigs brother they have 3. They always talk about our twin towers brother but they forget the 3rd beast brother

[Context]

"Feel free to take the entire time"

Where are you? We are looking for you...You ready to drop 1 and 2 on em?

[NewEra]

Word!

Lets party!

Hit my music

Watch on YouTube

btw I really like Schroder pickup for you. Seems to compliment your two bigs very nicely

Thanks brother but let me tell you something brother NWO doesn't have 2 bigs brother they have 3. They always talk about our twin towers brother but they forget the 3rd beast brother

Hahaha I definitely read this in Rodman’s voice

[King of Canada]

"Feel free to take the entire time"

Where are you? We are looking for you...You ready to drop 1 and 2 on em?

Gross

[bringbackhoffa]

"Feel free to take the entire time"

Where are you? We are looking for you...You ready to drop 1 and 2 on em?

Nope like I said I'm taking til 9:59am

[bishnykfan]

If none of the other players behind Player A want to move up then they will all submit their ranked choice, pass, and Player A gets stuck with the mock player. There's no incentive to Player A doing that.

But you are missing my point. Nevermind GM A. How about GM B getting screwed cuz GM C, D, or E took his guy. All because GM A allowed himself to be skipped and since GM B doesn't have the funds to take advantage, he loses a target to a GM behind him. While GM A goes unpunished cuz he didn't wanna pay for the slot he was in anyway, yet he still gets a player of his liking.

Just tie picks to the salary slot. Why all the overcomplication?

its also not a knock on anyone. But as we were talking and going back and forth early it was brought to our attention that with the way we currently do it (which seems unlikely) but could still happen someone can manipulate there draft slot for cap space purposes. Most discussed and agreed this is a bad faith tactic. A small amendment could fix this issue that seems like nearly every GM would be on board with because it doesn't hurt anyone but the team sitting on the pick. So seems like the most straight forward amendment ever. Does anyone think there is one bad thing to tie the draft slot with the $? I can't see one objection.

On my phone and still at work but it’s obviously not going to wait. Lol

The reason the salary is tied to the slot is for the player. He gets paid based on where he was selected. I know they aren’t real players with families but it has consequences down the line. People talking about Luka and his low salary. If he was picked with the sixth slot instead of the third due to skipped picks it would throw off the competitive balance even further. Salary needs to go with where the player was picked.

This has been our rule since the draft year one and obviously it seems no one knew about it except Context because it hasn’t been an issue even though I’m 99.9% positive I’ve written basically the same thing both years in the draft preview.

Just because this years draft is a bit different in the fact that there is no consensus doesn’t mean the rule should be changed. If you have the third pick and want to pick third you can absolutely get the third player selected at that salary slot and you will not have to sit at your computer all day to do it. Simply give me a two person list when you’re on the clock.

I’ll use Hoffa as an example since this all started with him even though he has said he isn’t truly planning on getting skipped. If 10AM rolls around and no pick is posted, the Spurs go on the clock. If “SKIPPED” has been placed in the draft thread, San Antonio has the choice of making their pick immediately thus incurring the second player drafted salary. They can wait their two hours to see if Hoffa makes his pick. Or they can give me a two person list telling me they want the third pick that they were entitled too. I get that it could get sticky for that team if four hours has gone by without Hoffa making his pick and then the Pistons get on the clock. In that case the Pistons would have the option of picking the second player and paying the second salary slot and the Spurs would get their player in the third slot. Could it happen that the Pistons take the player that the Spurs wanted? Of course it could happen...but if they’re willing to pay the extra money that the Spurs aren’t for that player then why shouldn’t they get him?

This has never happened in two years and I don’t expect it to happen this year. Teams have almost always drafted well ahead of their time slot. We generally run 3-4 picks early throughout the first round. But just in case it does happen, then yes, a team may have to balance the “do I really want the player or do I really want the salary?” It is supposed to be a benefit to the team that jumps ahead to get their choice of player, but only if they want it. No one is forced to wait all day, miss their pick, or pick early incurring the extra salary.

A team that wants to manipulate the draft to move down for a lower salary can do so at anytime. They lose out on the player if they chose to do so. I don’t see the benefit from this for that team. Since I’m on my phone and not able to search I can’t say for sure but I’m almost positive that Sacramento and Washington made a trade where they just flip flopped spots earlier this summer due to salary purposes. It could’ve been argued then that the draft was manipulated with that trade but no one said anything at the time. And like I said, this has been done this way in the NFL.

Finally, like cap said, if a team does get skipped, the next three teams up could conceivably work together to force the nbadraft mock to make that selection. That would be win win considering what most people here think of that mock.

[Context]

"Feel free to take the entire time"

Where are you? We are looking for you...You ready to drop 1 and 2 on em?

Nope like I said I'm taking til 9:59am

you trading the pick or keeping it at this point?