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dakomish23 wrote:cgf wrote:dakomish23 wrote:
If Obi could get his rim protection up, it might be easier
Here's to hoping that he & Taj are working together every day to teach Obi that Taj-D
I thought he could defend the rim somewhat in college? Am I making this up?
Capn'O wrote:We're the recovering meth addict older brother. And we've been clean for a few years now, thank you very much. Very uncouth to bring it up.
3toheadmelo wrote:Fat Kat wrote:GONYK wrote:
This is from the beginning of this season? I hope not. I don't think so, going by the jerseys.
It's hard to say, because the player groupings at each level are pretty bad
Tier 3 I guess?
How the hell do you have Dame and Derozan on the same level?
OK. This is his current one
God damn his tiers suck
I guess put him with the one with Tatum since Zion is there. Randle is better than Zion imo.
spree2kawhi wrote:E-Balla wrote:spree2kawhi wrote:I'm confident Booker will give you the tour one day. The jury is out on this one obviously, but DWade isn't one of the greatest players ever in my book. He was obviously good, of course, but Booker is not your average All Star guard either.
Find me a top 5 SG ever list without D. Wade on it and tell me again about how he's not great.
I'll find you 30 greater players. How about that?
3toheadmelo wrote:
E-Balla wrote:spree2kawhi wrote:E-Balla wrote:
Find me a top 5 SG ever list without D. Wade on it and tell me again about how he's not great.
I'll find you 30 greater players. How about that?
I'm sure I'd highly disagree with most of them. Flat out if you put Dirk over him after watching Wade outplay him in the Finals twice I don't wanna hear your 30. Now if you're saying his whole career, because of his injuries you might have a point (I'd put him top 25 easy but I can see why there's hesitation).
KnixtapeH20 wrote:NewKnicks wrote:DrCoach wrote:
He already is Lebron lite
Can we stop with the Lebron comparisons?? Holy chit I feel like I'm in an alternate universe when I'm reading these comparisons on a lot of our threads. He hasn't won ANYTHING yet. Nothing. Isn't that what matters? So he's the best player on a .500 team. That's it, at the moment. Don't misunderstand me, he's having an incredible year. But it's only one year, and previous to this he's never been close to the level he's playing at right now.
Bro u buggin for no reason. Most ppl are saying if he continues at this level of play. He's showing no signs of slowing down or that this all-star season is an anomaly.
More importantly he's becoming a TEAM leader and a guy other players rally around and look up to. The LeBron comparisons are valid because he's running the offense, getting everyone else involved, leading the team in assists, shooting threes, taking it to the baja, getting to the foul line... All while leading the team and league in minutes played, hitting clutch free throws and clutch shots.
Randle is a DOG, bully bball at its finest.
Zenzibar wrote:Nevertheless, Payton is not a finished product yet and unless the team moves him in a couple of weeks, I anticipate him trending upward with this coaching staff.
nedleeds wrote:KnixtapeH20 wrote:NewKnicks wrote:
Can we stop with the Lebron comparisons?? Holy chit I feel like I'm in an alternate universe when I'm reading these comparisons on a lot of our threads. He hasn't won ANYTHING yet. Nothing. Isn't that what matters? So he's the best player on a .500 team. That's it, at the moment. Don't misunderstand me, he's having an incredible year. But it's only one year, and previous to this he's never been close to the level he's playing at right now.
Bro u buggin for no reason. Most ppl are saying if he continues at this level of play. He's showing no signs of slowing down or that this all-star season is an anomaly.
More importantly he's becoming a TEAM leader and a guy other players rally around and look up to. The LeBron comparisons are valid because he's running the offense, getting everyone else involved, leading the team in assists, shooting threes, taking it to the baja, getting to the foul line... All while leading the team and league in minutes played, hitting clutch free throws and clutch shots.
Randle is a DOG, bully bball at its finest.
We're 14-15 in the **** east. That's barely Kemba Walker or Nik Vucevic territory. Some of you are so thirsty for hope it's kind of sad. I guess for folks who started post 2002 or so it's different.
spree2kawhi wrote:FutureKnicksGM wrote:spree2kawhi wrote:Imagine a Devin Booker type of player wanted out. Just imagine, I know they're doing well. We've certainly got the necessary assets to get him. Now imagine them asking for RJ and picks.
Does Booker agree to come here to form a championship duo with Randle? No, and that's all you need to know.
You think Devin Booker is going to be part of a championship duo?
Sure. I think he's even more talented than Dwyane Wade was. He's now surrounded with one other savvy player and two good defenders in Bridges and Crowder. I don't really know how to evaluate Ayton yet. Overall, Phoenix just isn't there yet, but Booker sure is. I mean look:
CP3
Booker
Bridges
Kawhi or Giannis
Ayton
Probably win a championship this year.
Jimmit79 wrote:At this point I want RJ to get paid
Oscirus wrote:he's that player that a smart team would trade before teams figured out he aint all that. Unforch we're not a smart team so we'll be stuck with him till his inevitable max drags us down.
spree2kawhi wrote:NewKnicks wrote:spree2kawhi wrote:Sure. I think he's even more talented than Dwyane Wade was. He's now surrounded with one other savvy player and two good defenders in Bridges and Crowder. I don't really know how to evaluate Ayton yet. Overall, Phoenix just isn't there yet, but Booker sure is. I mean look:
CP3
Booker
Bridges
Kawhi or Giannis
Ayton
Probably win a championship this year.
More talented than DWade? Wow man. Come on.
Why not? Seriously.
spree8 wrote:spree2kawhi wrote:NewKnicks wrote:
More talented than DWade? Wow man. Come on.
Why not? Seriously.
Wade played great defense for one. I hated that sonovabitch, but loved to watch him play. Booker is one helluva offensive player, but Wade is on another level entirely... he’s the 3rd greatest SG of all time. I doubt Booker gets anywhere near top 10 with guys like Jordan, Kobe, Wade, Harden, McGrady, Ray, Drexler, Klay, Vince, Iverson, Reggie, etc above him.
spree2kawhi wrote:spree8 wrote:spree2kawhi wrote:Why not? Seriously.
Wade played great defense for one. I hated that sonovabitch, but loved to watch him play. Booker is one helluva offensive player, but Wade is on another level entirely... he’s the 3rd greatest SG of all time. I doubt Booker gets anywhere near top 10 with guys like Jordan, Kobe, Wade, Harden, McGrady, Ray, Drexler, Klay, Vince, Iverson, Reggie, etc above him.
Do you think he's better than Klay Thompson, McGrady or Harden?
spree8 wrote:spree2kawhi wrote:spree8 wrote:
Wade played great defense for one. I hated that sonovabitch, but loved to watch him play. Booker is one helluva offensive player, but Wade is on another level entirely... he’s the 3rd greatest SG of all time. I doubt Booker gets anywhere near top 10 with guys like Jordan, Kobe, Wade, Harden, McGrady, Ray, Drexler, Klay, Vince, Iverson, Reggie, etc above him.
Do you think he's better than Klay Thompson, McGrady or Harden?
Absolutely not.
spree2kawhi wrote:spree8 wrote:spree2kawhi wrote:Do you think he's better than Klay Thompson, McGrady or Harden?
Absolutely not.
That's all I'm saying. Edit: I just noticed that you probably meant Booker, I meant Wade.
Fat Kat wrote:GONYK wrote:Fat Kat wrote:
I don’t agree with this chart, but these are the tiers from Nick Wright at the beginning of the season.
Where do we put Randle now?
This is from the beginning of this season? I hope not. I don't think so, going by the jerseys.
It's hard to say, because the player groupings at each level are pretty bad
Tier 3 I guess?
How the hell do you have Dame and Derozan on the same level?
OK. This is his current one
JBreezeNY wrote:Oscirus wrote:he's that player that a smart team would trade before teams figured out he aint all that. Unforch we're not a smart team so we'll be stuck with him till his inevitable max drags us down.
Gonna be Melo all over again...
Randle gonna drag this team only to be tired out & eliminated early in the 1st round.
But at least Randle is showing out in a contract year!
Woo hoo!
Jimmit79 wrote:At this point I want RJ to get paid
spree2kawhi wrote:Hes_On_Fire wrote:spree2kawhi wrote:Sure. I think he's even more talented than Dwyane Wade was. He's now surrounded with one other savvy player and two good defenders in Bridges and Crowder. I don't really know how to evaluate Ayton yet. Overall, Phoenix just isn't there yet, but Booker sure is. I mean look:
CP3
Booker
Bridges
Kawhi or Giannis
Ayton
Probably win a championship this year.
That’s fine but you’re saying to bring Booker here to be the #1 guy. He’s not winning a title as a #1 or with Randle as a #2. We need to aim higher if we want to win the big one.
Fair enough. Randle needs to be #3. Do you start everything by signing the third wheel?
spree2kawhi wrote:Hes_On_Fire wrote:spree2kawhi wrote:Sure. I think he's even more talented than Dwyane Wade was. He's now surrounded with one other savvy player and two good defenders in Bridges and Crowder. I don't really know how to evaluate Ayton yet. Overall, Phoenix just isn't there yet, but Booker sure is. I mean look:
CP3
Booker
Bridges
Kawhi or Giannis
Ayton
Probably win a championship this year.
That’s fine but you’re saying to bring Booker here to be the #1 guy. He’s not winning a title as a #1 or with Randle as a #2. We need to aim higher if we want to win the big one.
Fair enough. Randle needs to be #3. Do you start everything by signing the third wheel?
