Tyrese Maxey VS Immanuel Quickley

[spree2kawhi]

Here comes the no perspective crew running to act like Maxey and Quick are so far apart simply bc Maxey is on a way better team playing with the most dominating big man in the league... My point is nobody has any idea what Quick can develop into if given the starting opportunity next season.

Facts.

This is not going to age well imo.

[RHODEY]

Here comes the no perspective crew running to act like Maxey and Quick are so far apart simply bc Maxey is on a way better team playing with the most dominating big man in the league... My point is nobody has any idea what Quick can develop into if given the starting opportunity next season.

Facts.

This is not going to age well imo.

Comparing a guy who has been playing on restricted minutes, to a guy who is given free reign next to MVP candidates wont age well IMO

[KnicksNext]

The delusion is thick in this thread. Wow.

[thebuzzardman]

Here comes the no perspective crew running to act like Maxey and Quick are so far apart simply bc Maxey is on a way better team playing with the most dominating big man in the league... My point is nobody has any idea what Quick can develop into if given the starting opportunity next season.

No perspective is just not seeing the glaring difference in speed, explosion and finishing ability because 1 guy is a Knick and the other isn't. Anyone with eyes can see that Maxey just gets by people easier, Embiid has nothing to do with Maxey being in the 86th percentile for transition, IQ is in the 41st. One guy has elite speed & quickness and the other doesn't, that has nothing to do with playing on the better team or who he plays with, neither does the finishing ability. Maxey's last 10 games without Embiid he's averaged 24ppg, 5rpg, 3apg on 52% from the field. Why is it so difficult to just face the reality that Maxey is the better player?

Because on here it always involves stating the player the Knicks have is a piece of sh*t, as a result. Or implying it.

[spree2kawhi]

Facts.

This is not going to age well imo.

Comparing a guy who beem playing on restricted minutes, to a guy who is given free reign next to MVP candidates wont age well IMO

I think you can compare them. One is just better and outplays the other. You can also compare Mitch and, say, Robert Williams or Obi and JJJ or Kemba and Steph Curry and see how the latter is much better respectively. But hey, we’ll see anyway.

[WargamesX]

I think they are very comparable. Maxey is just in a much better situation, with a coach who was also a lot more willing to let him play. This season Maxey played the equivalent of 3 quarters a game to IQ’s 2 quarters. So you have to look at the stats and watch the games to have a real sense of their development.

The real interesting thing is how they are being developed based on the initial skillset they came into the league with. Maxey is a better shooter now mostly because he came in better able to get into the paint meaning he isn’t crowded on the perimeter by defenders giving him space. Meanwhile, IQ who is a microwave shooter has been developed into becoming a better PG and is showing he can distribute better than Maxey, because he had to learn a secondary skill to drawing fouls after the rule change. Maxey isn’t being asked to convert into a traditional PG by Philly so even playing 36 minutes his assist avg is 4. Meanwhile IQ with less minutes averaged the same and when given around 36 minutes would regularly put up about 7 assist because it’s clear they want him to be a PG.

Maxey is becoming the better Combo guard and IQ is becoming the better PG based on the team they are on and how they are being developed.

[Nazrmohamed]

Here comes the no perspective crew running to act like Maxey and Quick are so far apart simply bc Maxey is on a way better team playing with the most dominating big man in the league... My point is nobody has any idea what Quick can develop into if given the starting opportunity next season.

No perspective is just not seeing the glaring difference in speed, explosion and finishing ability because 1 guy is a Knick and the other isn't. Anyone with eyes can see that Maxey just gets by people easier, Embiid has nothing to do with Maxey being in the 86th percentile for transition, IQ is in the 41st. One guy has elite speed & quickness and the other doesn't, that has nothing to do with playing on the better team or who he plays with, neither does the finishing ability. Maxey's last 10 games without Embiid he's averaged 24ppg, 5rpg, 3apg on 52% from the field. Why is it so difficult to just face the reality that Maxey is the better player?

Because on here it always involves stating the player the Knicks have is a piece of sh*t, as a result. Or implying it.

Well Quickley needs to not start seasons like a piece of Sh*t. It was just horrendous. Since allstar game he's been a different player all together but it's all part of the stew. Maxey was considered the better prospect and is indeed the better player but I believe in IQ if given the job. Much have to look into Tyty for insurance. And don't forget Rokas may be coming

[thebuzzardman]

No perspective is just not seeing the glaring difference in speed, explosion and finishing ability because 1 guy is a Knick and the other isn't. Anyone with eyes can see that Maxey just gets by people easier, Embiid has nothing to do with Maxey being in the 86th percentile for transition, IQ is in the 41st. One guy has elite speed & quickness and the other doesn't, that has nothing to do with playing on the better team or who he plays with, neither does the finishing ability. Maxey's last 10 games without Embiid he's averaged 24ppg, 5rpg, 3apg on 52% from the field. Why is it so difficult to just face the reality that Maxey is the better player?

Because on here it always involves stating the player the Knicks have is a piece of sh*t, as a result. Or implying it.

Well Quickley needs to not start seasons like a piece of Sh*t. It was just horrendous. Since allstar game he's been a different player all together but it's all part of the stew. Maxey was considered the better prospect and is indeed the better player but I believe in IQ if given the job. Much have to look into Tyty for insurance. And don't forget Rokas may be coming

He did look terrible. I hated it. Then again, fans on here clamor for "player development like other teams do" all the time, Knicks take the long approach, try to get the undersized SG some PG skills, it was rough for a bit and everyone freaked out.

Yup. Can't rebuild in NYC, can't really feature youth and their issues. Then everyone hates the players.

[thebuzzardman]

I think it's clear enough Maxey is better than IQ, but it could also be possible that having Embiid, Harden and even Harris on the floor at the same time frees up some opportunities. Nah. Knicks have players just as good!

[RHODEY]

I think it's clear enough Maxey is better than IQ, but it could also be possible that having Embiid, Harden and even Harris on the floor at the same time frees up some opportunities. Nah. Knicks have players just as good!

Maxey is the better combo guard and given 30 percent more time to put up better scoring, but IQ is the better PG...and that's what this team needs.

[RHODEY]

This is not going to age well imo.

Comparing a guy who beem playing on restricted minutes, to a guy who is given free reign next to MVP candidates wont age well IMO

I think you can compare them. One is just better and outplays the other. You can also compare Mitch and, say, Robert Williams or Obi and JJJ or Kemba and Steph Curry and see how the latter is much better respectively. But hey, we’ll see anyway.

You can compare Donovan Mitchell to cp3...who would be better for the Knicks?

[rajajackal]

Comparing a guy who beem playing on restricted minutes, to a guy who is given free reign next to MVP candidates wont age well IMO

I think you can compare them. One is just better and outplays the other. You can also compare Mitch and, say, Robert Williams or Obi and JJJ or Kemba and Steph Curry and see how the latter is much better respectively. But hey, we’ll see anyway.

You can compare Donovan Mitchell to cp3...who would be better for the Knicks?

cp3 tbh because he seems to have the intangible effect of unlocking his teammates' potential

[DOT]

Maxey's still better, but Quick finished out the season real strong regardless

Plus, it's not like we passed on Maxey to draft Quick, Maxey wouldn't have been there at 23, so we would've had to trade up to get him, which isn't this FO's MO

So the real debate is, should we have taken Maxey 8th instead of Obi.

[thebuzzardman]

Maxey's still better, but Quick finished out the season real strong regardless

Plus, it's not like we passed on Maxey to draft Quick, Maxey wouldn't have been there at 23, so we would've had to trade up to get him, which isn't this FO's MO

So the real debate is, should we have taken Maxey 8th instead of Obi.

Maxey >>>>>>>> Obi

[omerome]

Maxey's still better, but Quick finished out the season real strong regardless

Plus, it's not like we passed on Maxey to draft Quick, Maxey wouldn't have been there at 23, so we would've had to trade up to get him, which isn't this FO's MO

So the real debate is, should we have taken Maxey 8th instead of Obi.

Then people would have blasted the FO for us passing on Haliburton and then there would have been a Maxi vs. Haliburton debate. Or what if Obi got drafted on a team with an actual PG and he blew up? It wouldn't end lol.

[islanders11040]

Quickly make maxey look like Lou amundson. Get out of here with this maxey ish. I’m proud of my opinion.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Here comes the no perspective crew running to act like Maxey and Quick are so far apart simply bc Maxey is on a way better team playing with the most dominating big man in the league... My point is nobody has any idea what Quick can develop into if given the starting opportunity next season.

No perspective is just not seeing the glaring difference in speed, explosion and finishing ability because 1 guy is a Knick and the other isn't. Anyone with eyes can see that Maxey just gets by people easier, Embiid has nothing to do with Maxey being in the 86th percentile for transition, IQ is in the 41st. One guy has elite speed & quickness and the other doesn't, that has nothing to do with playing on the better team or who he plays with, neither does the finishing ability. Maxey's last 10 games without Embiid he's averaged 24ppg, 5rpg, 3apg on 52% from the field. Why is it so difficult to just face the reality that Maxey is the better player?

Who was arguing that Maxey wasn't more athletic? But so what? Luka Doncic isn't athletic and neither is Jokic. IQ can put up gaudy stats too given the minutes ..even without playing with 2 MVP candidates on a loaded team.

Luka and Jokic? This makes absolutely no sense, Maxey is the more skilled player right now, he has a better handle and a better shot while being more athletic. I'm starting to wonder what some of you see when you watch games, the lack of understanding is pretty jarring. Maxey is making 43% of his threes, when someone that quick/fast hits the three that consistently it makes them a nightmare to defend because you have to close out on them and respect the shot, but then they just blow by you to get to the rim. Maxey put up numbers when those 2 MVPs are out, against good teams (Heat & Grizz).

Ah yes, putting up gaudy stats for a lottery team is exactly the same as doing it in the playoffs

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Here comes the no perspective crew running to act like Maxey and Quick are so far apart simply bc Maxey is on a way better team playing with the most dominating big man in the league... My point is nobody has any idea what Quick can develop into if given the starting opportunity next season.

No perspective is just not seeing the glaring difference in speed, explosion and finishing ability because 1 guy is a Knick and the other isn't. Anyone with eyes can see that Maxey just gets by people easier, Embiid has nothing to do with Maxey being in the 86th percentile for transition, IQ is in the 41st. One guy has elite speed & quickness and the other doesn't, that has nothing to do with playing on the better team or who he plays with, neither does the finishing ability. Maxey's last 10 games without Embiid he's averaged 24ppg, 5rpg, 3apg on 52% from the field. Why is it so difficult to just face the reality that Maxey is the better player?

Because on here it always involves stating the player the Knicks have is a piece of sh*t, as a result. Or implying it.

Maxey being better doesn't mean IQ sucks, but not being able to see the differences in them as players who play the same position, and just reducing it to "Well he plays with Embiid" is bottom feeder stuff. Not being able to see why Maxey is doing what he's doing, and still arguing that IQ could do it is just homerism. Better handle, better shooter, better athlete, it's really that simple.

[spree2kawhi]

Maxey's still better, but Quick finished out the season real strong regardless

Plus, it's not like we passed on Maxey to draft Quick, Maxey wouldn't have been there at 23, so we would've had to trade up to get him, which isn't this FO's MO

So the real debate is, should we have taken Maxey 8th instead of Obi.

Maxey >>>>>>>> Obi

In hindsight, there’s no doubt to me anymore.

[thebuzzardman]

No perspective is just not seeing the glaring difference in speed, explosion and finishing ability because 1 guy is a Knick and the other isn't. Anyone with eyes can see that Maxey just gets by people easier, Embiid has nothing to do with Maxey being in the 86th percentile for transition, IQ is in the 41st. One guy has elite speed & quickness and the other doesn't, that has nothing to do with playing on the better team or who he plays with, neither does the finishing ability. Maxey's last 10 games without Embiid he's averaged 24ppg, 5rpg, 3apg on 52% from the field. Why is it so difficult to just face the reality that Maxey is the better player?

Because on here it always involves stating the player the Knicks have is a piece of sh*t, as a result. Or implying it.

Maxey being better doesn't mean IQ sucks, but not being able to see the differences in them as players who play the same position, and just reducing it to "Well he plays with Embiid" is bottom feeder stuff. Not being able to see why Maxey is doing what he's doing, and still arguing that IQ could do it is just homerism. Better handle, better shooter, better athlete, it's really that simple.

Maybe Maxey is better and also playing with Embiid and Harden matters too.