OT: 4 Cops Arrested in Breonna Taylor murder

[Clyde_Style]

I thought Beto had no chance after the “Hell yeah I’m coming for your guns” comment don a national stage, but I respect the hell out of him for making this close. Sadly I think Texas and Florida are always going to do what Texas and Florida do, disappoint. Enough people can’t get out of their own way enough to want better for themselves.

It’s hard to put the blame squarely on the voters when they’re met with tighter voter restriction laws. However in Texas, we do need better turnout.

I sympathize with the targets of voter suppression however the counter point is that they still need to show up in numbers regardless of how hard Republicans make it. Because if they don’t, it becomes learned helplessness situation where if people don’t vote to get rid of the people that put the laws into place they’ll always be suppressed. Hopefully there can be changes made at the Federal level. I don’t put all the blame for places like Texas and Florida on Democrats that don’t consistently vote. It’s the Independents and Republicans that Clyde mentioned that know Republicans are bad for Democracy and their state but use bull rationalization like taxes to render other people second class citizens.

I'm witnessing the wealth divide grow in Florida. The influx of people bidding up housing means the people who service them on the retail and hospitality level of employment get priced out of affordable housing. The only true middle class becomes the trades people who service the properties of the wealthier people because you can make very good money taking care of their plumbing and replacing their roofs.

Everyone else gets squeezed until the breaking point is reached. More drugs and homelessness ensues. This is the cycle GOP voters are pushing for. They literally do not care as long as they get theirs. All other considerations like lowering carbon emissions or living wages go out the window. Even when there are elements in the party that push right wing talking points like immigration the bottom line rules the GOP and their voters. If you tell them you will pay less in taxes next year they will vote for you. It really is a single issue party when you get down to it.

[HarthorneWingo]

It’s hard to put the blame squarely on the voters when they’re met with tighter voter restriction laws. However in Texas, we do need better turnout.

I sympathize with the targets of voter suppression however the counter point is that they still need to show up in numbers regardless of how hard Republicans make it. Because if they don’t, it becomes learned helplessness situation where if people don’t vote to get rid of the people that put the laws into place they’ll always be suppressed. Hopefully there can be changes made at the Federal level. I don’t put all the blame for places like Texas and Florida on Democrats that don’t consistently vote. It’s the Independents and Republicans that Clyde mentioned that know Republicans are bad for Democracy and their state but use bull rationalization like taxes to render other people second class citizens.

I'm witnessing the wealth divide grow in Florida. The influx of people bidding up housing means the people who service them on the retail and hospitality level of employment get priced out of affordable housing. The only true middle class becomes the trades people who service the properties of the wealthier people because you can make very good money taking care of their plumbing and replacing their roofs.

Everyone else gets squeezed until the breaking point is reached. More drugs and homelessness ensues. This is the cycle GOP voters are pushing for. They literally do not care as long as they get theirs. All other considerations like lowering carbon emissions or living wages go out the window. Even when there are elements in the party that push right wing talking points like immigration the bottom line rules the GOP and their voters. If you tell them you will pay less in taxes next year they will vote for you. It really is a single issue party when you get down to it.

Then hopefully those getting squeezed out will move to some other state where they'll have a better opportunity because in a decade all of those uber rich are going to get washed out to sea.

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Just another day in America....

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Notice the 'you're next' point at the end

[HarthorneWingo]

I just had to post this. This Black pastor got the cuffs slapped on him by the, yes, White police for watering his neighbor's flower bed along the permitter of their house while they were away on vacation!

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[Pointgod]

Up to 5 years is seems too light considering her lies led to the death of a person and she also tried to cover it up. Remember none of this would be happening if a Democratic President wasn’t elected. The Republican Attorney General declined to fully put the power of the state behind holding cops accountable

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[HarthorneWingo]

Up to 5 years is seems too light considering her lies led to the death of a person and she also tried to cover it up. Remember none of this would be happening if a Democratic President wasn’t elected. The Republican Attorney General declined to fully put the power of the state behind holding cops accountable

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I agree. There would've been a lot of finger pointing at the trial. It's good to get the conviction on this cop who will spend 5 rough years in prison. It certainly would've been a much more severe outcome if this warrant cop and the shooter cop were one and the same.

I wonder what the Louisville DA's Office's W-L record is when prosecuting its local police?

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An interesting take on the above

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This is good news because an insider will expose the rampant abuses of power that go on behind the blue wall. I'm not surprised that the cops met to get their stories straight. That's what criminals do. What I don't get is why "the other cops" - which ones? - might face mandatory life in prison. I'm going to assume he's referring to the shooters, i.e. the cops who executed the warrant. If that's true, then I'd like to know those facts that connect the officer(s) who swore out the warrant and the ones who executed it. I guess I'm not that familiar with facts of the case.

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This is good news because an insider will expose the rampant abuses of power that go on behind the blue wall. I'm not surprised that the cops met to get their stories straight. That's what criminals do. What I don't get is why "the other cops" - which ones? - might face mandatory life in prison. I'm going to assume he's referring to the shooters, i.e. the cops who executed the warrant. If that's true, then I'd like to know those facts that connect the officer(s) who swore out the warrant and the ones who executed it. I guess I'm not that familiar with facts of the case.

It's potentially explosive. She's going to be public enemy #1 to cops. If what Beau thinks happened has happened, she's basically Serpico. I don't know if anything will happen to her, but she probably gets a lot of anonymous threats and she'll be called a traitor many many times.

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Hey how bout that Dark Brandon?

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This is good news because an insider will expose the rampant abuses of power that go on behind the blue wall. I'm not surprised that the cops met to get their stories straight. That's what criminals do. What I don't get is why "the other cops" - which ones? - might face mandatory life in prison. I'm going to assume he's referring to the shooters, i.e. the cops who executed the warrant. If that's true, then I'd like to know those facts that connect the officer(s) who swore out the warrant and the ones who executed it. I guess I'm not that familiar with facts of the case.

It's potentially explosive. She's going to be public enemy #1 to cops. If what Bo thinks happened has happened, she's basically Serpico. I don't know if anything will happen to her, but she probably gets a lot of anonymous threats and she'll be called a traitor many many times.

[HarthorneWingo]

A couple of points highlighted by Kyle. One, the cap on interest at 5% is HUGE. Two, it also applies to graduate student loans. Nice.

I've been hard on Joe but I think the recent accomplishments are crucial when you tie them into (1) the republicans' support for the insurrectionists and the cover up (it's hurting republicans at the polls); (2) declining gas prices (was never Biden's fault to be begin with); (3) a leveling off of inflation with a possibility of deflating; and Dobbs (Supreme Court decision overruling Roe v. Wade). I'm thinking and hoping that we may pick up a couple of seats in the Senate, which would neuter Manchin and Sinema. I don't know about the House though there was a NY State special election for a congressional House seat that just flipped to a Democrat, which is a very good sign.

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A couple of points highlighted by Kyle. One, the cap on interest at 5% is HUGE. Two, it also applies to graduate student loans. Nice.

I've been hard on Joe but I think the recent accomplishments are crucial when you tie them into (1) the republicans' support for the insurrectionists and the cover up (it's hurting republicans at the polls); (2) declining gas prices (was never Biden's fault to be begin with); (3) a leveling off of inflation with a possibility of deflating; and Dobbs (Supreme Court decision overruling Roe v. Wade). I'm thinking and hoping that we may pick up a couple of seats in the Senate, which would neuter Manchin and Sinema. I don't know about the House though there was a NY State special election for a congressional House seat that just flipped to a Democrat, which is a very good sign.

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Never thought I’d see the day the Kyle Kulinski give Biden any kind of credit. The world is truly upside down. But you’re right that 5% cap is huge for student loan borrowers. I’m cautiously optimistic for the midterms

[stuporman]

Biden could have cut off all 'unfair' complaints by letting people/households that make less than $125k to use the 10k/20k they paid off on college loans as a tax credit spread out over 3-5 years.

So would have given them tax free income which would have allowed them to take that money and invest it as they see fit for their own personal plans.

It would have erased virtually all criticism about it except for the political zealots who hate anything and everything someone who isn't from their own party does.

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Biden could have cut off all 'unfair' complaints by letting people/households that make less than $125k to use the 10k/20k they paid off on college loans as a tax credit spread out over 3-5 years.

So would have given them tax free income which would have allowed them to take that money and invest it as they see fit for their own personal plans.

It would have erased virtually all criticism about it except for the political zealots who hate anything and everything someone who isn't from their own party does.

I'm still happy with the bill even though my student debt is 100% paid. Did Biden have a hand in writing it? Usually bills like this are written in congress but Biden gets all the praise/blame. Funny how that works.

[HarthorneWingo]

A couple of points highlighted by Kyle. One, the cap on interest at 5% is HUGE. Two, it also applies to graduate student loans. Nice.

I've been hard on Joe but I think the recent accomplishments are crucial when you tie them into (1) the republicans' support for the insurrectionists and the cover up (it's hurting republicans at the polls); (2) declining gas prices (was never Biden's fault to be begin with); (3) a leveling off of inflation with a possibility of deflating; and Dobbs (Supreme Court decision overruling Roe v. Wade). I'm thinking and hoping that we may pick up a couple of seats in the Senate, which would neuter Manchin and Sinema. I don't know about the House though there was a NY State special election for a congressional House seat that just flipped to a Democrat, which is a very good sign.

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Never thought I’d see the day the Kyle Kulinski give Biden any kind of credit. The world is truly upside down. But you’re right that 5% cap is huge for student loan borrowers. I’m cautiously optimistic for the midterms

We progressives don't care who passes these policies; just pass the damn policies.

[HarthorneWingo]

Biden could have cut off all 'unfair' complaints by letting people/households that make less than $125k to use the 10k/20k they paid off on college loans as a tax credit spread out over 3-5 years.

So would have given them tax free income which would have allowed them to take that money and invest it as they see fit for their own personal plans.

It would have erased virtually all criticism about it except for the political zealots who hate anything and everything someone who isn't from their own party does.

[stuporman]

Biden could have cut off all 'unfair' complaints by letting people/households that make less than $125k to use the 10k/20k they paid off on college loans as a tax credit spread out over 3-5 years.

So would have given them tax free income which would have allowed them to take that money and invest it as they see fit for their own personal plans.

It would have erased virtually all criticism about it except for the political zealots who hate anything and everything someone who isn't from their own party does.

I'm still happy with the bill even though my student debt is 100% paid. Did Biden have a hand in writing it? Usually bills like this are written in congress but Biden gets all the praise/blame. Funny how that works.

I'm pretty sure it was done executive order otherwise there would have been months of debate in congress. This may also be why there couldn't be the inclusion of the tax credit idea I suggested because tax policy is something the President can't do with an EO.

Although, Dems could start saying they want to give the tax credit to those who already paid off their loans and more fair tax policy altogether but the only way to get the necessary votes in congress is voting in the mid terms.

There is no way the 50-50 senate split would let that policy get passed with corporate shills Mancin and Sinema pretending to care about people then legislating for the wealthy corporations and neglecting the middle class.

Don't get me wrong, establishment Dems are similarly corrupt and have been a mess in very many other ways so basically handing back congress to the GOP for the midterms because of their incompetence but proper messaging can let them leverage this into midterm wins.

Calling out the GOP hypocrisy is a really good start

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Of course this is off topic so my apologies I just saw some comments on it in here

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Biden could have cut off all 'unfair' complaints by letting people/households that make less than $125k to use the 10k/20k they paid off on college loans as a tax credit spread out over 3-5 years.

So would have given them tax free income which would have allowed them to take that money and invest it as they see fit for their own personal plans.

It would have erased virtually all criticism about it except for the political zealots who hate anything and everything someone who isn't from their own party does.

Ask your accountant to explain tax credits to you, counselor...

[HarthorneWingo]

Biden could have cut off all 'unfair' complaints by letting people/households that make less than $125k to use the 10k/20k they paid off on college loans as a tax credit spread out over 3-5 years.

So would have given them tax free income which would have allowed them to take that money and invest it as they see fit for their own personal plans.

It would have erased virtually all criticism about it except for the political zealots who hate anything and everything someone who isn't from their own party does.

Ask your accountant to explain tax credits to you, counselor...

It would be futile.