PG: Knicks + Denny's Grand Slam The Jazz

[prophet_of_rage]

Sims is probably going to be a better pro then Mitch. Just as much bounce but he's bulkier.

That's what I was thinking. He gives you the same numbers and athleticism for younger and cheaper.

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[Clyde Ward]

Yesssir Tronny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

he has to keep it up. he's shown flashes - but he's a sub 10pts per game player this season. let him find consistency.

[prophet_of_rage]

Why the **** did Grimes get a DNP?


I can't stand this **** fossil

Because he is shortening the rotation. DRose's complaints about role and rhythm worked. He is now first guard off the bench, IQ plays 2, Fournier is out and the rotation for the moment is 9 deep: Randle, RJ, Brunson, Cam, Sims, Hart, IQ, Toppin; Rose which is a real basketball rotation.

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[prophet_of_rage]

Why the **** did Grimes get a DNP?

I can't stand this **** fossil

It must still be his foot. Foot injuries can be problematic, mostly for big men but you never know because the feet have a lot of small bones and tendons. Sometimes it's just genetic. I sure hope that's not the case. We certainly shouldn't be rushing him back.

So why was he dressed? I doubt it was bc of injury. Thibs is just a moron.

If he's not healthy enough to play he shouldn't dress. He's available to play. He should play. I'm the last one that wants to rush him back.

Who does he take out of rotation?

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[prophet_of_rage]

Randle and RJ starring in The Great Dolan Robbery

Stop lumping then together. RJ is nowhere near as bad as Julius when it comes to team ball. He may have struggles but, he is nowhere near the slob that Randle is. I am worried that contract may be bad in the long run. Right now is too soon to say. He started to play better after the bad 3pt numbers this season but, that was really his only issue most of these games. Randle is just trash with no hope for the future.

RJ just told the fans of MSG or Twitter or here to f*ck off and stop being so enthusiastic after wins and horrible after losses. His transformation is complete. He is now like Randle in nearly every way. Just needs an irritating family to complete the scene.

Pass when you go left RJ and I won't say **** to you.

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[prophet_of_rage]

RJ was abysmal shooting the rock tonight.

He needs to lock in the gym with the Shaolin monks and shoot for 7 years straight.

Obi Toppin
9 pts
3-4 3pt
6 reb
4 ast
+23

18 mins????? WTH ?? I demand justice for this malpractice!!

It has to be something personal. Obi has been lights out all season. It's beyond frustrating.

Thibs system is get your own. Obi can't di that in thechalf court.

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[Jalen Bluntson]

RJ just told the fans of MSG or Twitter or here to f*ck off and stop being so enthusiastic after wins and horrible after losses. His transformation is complete. He is now like Randle in nearly every way. Just needs an irritating family to complete the scene.

I saw the quote and that's BS. He didn't pull a Randle and tell fans to STFU or give them a thumbs down. He just told the truth. When the team wins players get praised and when they lose everything's sucks. Is he lying? Not in the slightest. Read the room!

I would love to see the whole exchange though. I would imagine someone asked what the fans were like and he said this. He's being honest and speaking 200% truth. Not at all what Randle did.

Beefing with fans LIE
Inefficient scorer IMPROVING
Makes dumb decisions with the ball on offense
Lackluster defensive effort. LIE

Randle and RJ might as well be twins.

Nice troll job but, I'm not the one bruh. RJ may need to clean up some things but, other than being inefficient for a couple of years he is nothing like Boolius.

My biggest issue with RJ is when he plays with his head down. He can go solo a little too often at times. It is what it is. He is nothing like Randle though. Two completely different players.

[Jalen Bluntson]

RJ was abysmal shooting the rock tonight.

He needs to lock in the gym with the Shaolin monks and shoot for 7 years straight.

Obi Toppin
9 pts
3-4 3pt
6 reb
4 ast
+23

18 mins????? WTH ?? I demand justice for this malpractice!!

It has to be something personal. Obi has been lights out all season. It's beyond frustrating.

Thibs system is get your own. Obi can't di that in thechalf court.

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Obi is a good player. He can get his own but, it's not a strength. He plays better when the ball moves. He absolutely can put it in the floor and get to the rim but, he doesn't have the best handles so he prefers to get the ball in motion or pass it off to allow others to run the offense. He's a team player and he brings energy all night every night. Nothing wrong with the way he plays at all. It's a travesty the way Thibs disrespects him though.

[Chanel Bomber]

I saw the quote and that's BS. He didn't pull a Randle and tell fans to STFU or give them a thumbs down. He just told the truth. When the team wins players get praised and when they lose everything's sucks. Is he lying? Not in the slightest. Read the room!

I would love to see the whole exchange though. I would imagine someone asked what the fans were like and he said this. He's being honest and speaking 200% truth. Not at all what Randle did.

Beefing with fans LIE
Inefficient scorer IMPROVING
Makes dumb decisions with the ball on offense
Lackluster defensive effort. LIE

Randle and RJ might as well be twins.

Nice troll job but, I'm not the one bruh. RJ may need to clean up some things but, other than being inefficient for a couple of years he is nothing like Boolius.

My biggest issue with RJ is when he plays with his head down. He can go solo a little too often at times. It is what it is. He is nothing like Randle though. Two completely different players.

They are both selfish in different ways.

Randle because he holds onto the ball.

RJ because he shoots it whenever he touches the ball. Yes, it's an exaggeration, sue me. But just to provide some evidence, among high-usage players (>24 usage rate and >30 minutes per game), RJ ranks 48 out of 54 in assists per game. Definition of a chucker.

They are both delusional about their abilities as well. The way they carry themselves doesn't match how good they are.

They are both try-hards.

[prophet_of_rage]

Shortest PG thread in the forum's history?

I don't think I have ever felt more hopeless or confident in a regime or franchise.

You have flat out franchise alterers in the draft but we choose to be middle of the pack with a mid team with no high end talent.

It's supper frustrating that whatever makes the most sense this franchise never does.

Like the logic to play for a playin game is so backwards. We block promising young players and we then call certain players untouchable that can't even crack our rotation.

It's as hopeless as it's ever been.

Dolan wants to sell playoff tickets and go up on ticket prices in general based on a playoff appearance(s). He could do it without those things but he can only do so much with the Nets in Brooklyn. If you remember that everything this team does makes sense. Mid tier is good enough if they can increase ticket prices. The playing game might be enough to go up too.

That’s why even last year when they should have tanked they/were struggling to try and sneak into the play in. That’s all Dolan wants in addition to no one calling him out when the team loses.

Exactly. Dolan doesn't give a **** about a trophy.

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[mpharris36]

Shortest PG thread in the forum's history?

I don't think I have ever felt more hopeless or confident in a regime or franchise.

You have flat out franchise alterers in the draft but we choose to be middle of the pack with a mid team with no high end talent.

It's supper frustrating that whatever makes the most sense this franchise never does.

Like the logic to play for a playin game is so backwards. We block promising young players and we then call certain players untouchable that can't even crack our rotation.

It's as hopeless as it's ever been.

Dolan wants to sell playoff tickets and go up on ticket prices in general based on a playoff appearance(s). He could do it without those things but he can only do so much with the Nets in Brooklyn. If you remember that everything this team does makes sense. Mid tier is good enough if they can increase ticket prices. The playing game might be enough to go up too.

That’s why even last year when they should have tanked they/were struggling to try and sneak into the play in. That’s all Dolan wants in addition to no one calling him out when the team loses.

I agree, but I can't remember a regime that is full sending a .500 record...like this is the most mid team maybe in NBA history.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Beefing with fans LIE
Inefficient scorer IMPROVING
Makes dumb decisions with the ball on offense
Lackluster defensive effort. LIE

Randle and RJ might as well be twins.

Nice troll job but, I'm not the one bruh. RJ may need to clean up some things but, other than being inefficient for a couple of years he is nothing like Boolius.

My biggest issue with RJ is when he plays with his head down. He can go solo a little too often at times. It is what it is. He is nothing like Randle though. Two completely different players.

They are both selfish in different ways.

Randle because he holds onto the ball.

RJ because he shoots it whenever he touches the ball. Yes, it's an exaggeration, sue me. But just to provide some evidence, among high-usage players (>24 usage rate and >30 minutes per game), RJ ranks 48 out of 54 in assists per game. Definition of a chucker.

They are both delusional about their abilities as well. The way they carry themselves doesn't match how good they are.

They are both try-hards.

They are two different players. RJ is also 5 years younger. More likely learning bad habits from Julius than anything else. RJ moves the ball more and moves without the ball more. He plays better defnese more often and he's more team oriented and plays at a faster pace.

The only thing they have in common is inefficient scoring. That's it. RJ does put his head down at times and it does bother me when he drives and can't finish. They are two completely different players though.

Randle walks around the court most of the time. Plays zero defense. Thinks he's Kobe. There's a huge difference in the way they play. Randle passes more because most of them are bail outs at the end of the clock.

It's lazy comparisons lumping the two together. I still have a little faith in RJ improving some of his flaws. Randle will not change at all.

[Iron Mantis]

[G_K_F]

Mediocrity never tasted so good.

[WargamesX]

I don't think I have ever felt more hopeless or confident in a regime or franchise.

You have flat out franchise alterers in the draft but we choose to be middle of the pack with a mid team with no high end talent.

It's supper frustrating that whatever makes the most sense this franchise never does.

Like the logic to play for a playin game is so backwards. We block promising young players and we then call certain players untouchable that can't even crack our rotation.

It's as hopeless as it's ever been.

Dolan wants to sell playoff tickets and go up on ticket prices in general based on a playoff appearance(s). He could do it without those things but he can only do so much with the Nets in Brooklyn. If you remember that everything this team does makes sense. Mid tier is good enough if they can increase ticket prices. The playing game might be enough to go up too.

That’s why even last year when they should have tanked they/were struggling to try and sneak into the play in. That’s all Dolan wants in addition to no one calling him out when the team loses.

I agree, but I can't remember a regime that is full sending a .500 record...like this is the most mid team maybe in NBA history.

If .500 gets them in the play in Dolan is happy.

[duetta]

They are both selfish in different ways.

Randle because he holds onto the ball.

RJ because he shoots it whenever he touches the ball. Yes, it's an exaggeration, sue me. But just to provide some evidence, among high-usage players (>24 usage rate and >30 minutes per game), RJ ranks 48 out of 54 in assists per game. Definition of a chucker.

They are both delusional about their abilities as well. The way they carry themselves doesn't match how good they are.

They are both try-hards.

True. RJ has to recognize that he currently is not nearly as effective a scorer as he thinks he is.

On too many drives, RJ looks like Charles Smith taking on the entire Jordan Bulls' defense - with similar results.

He lacks both the explosiveness and quickness to be the elite finisher he imagines himself to be. He desperately needs to develop a slick mid-range game if he wants to become a legit star in this league.

[KnixtapeH20]

It must still be his foot. Foot injuries can be problematic, mostly for big men but you never know because the feet have a lot of small bones and tendons. Sometimes it's just genetic. I sure hope that's not the case. We certainly shouldn't be rushing him back.

So why was he dressed? I doubt it was bc of injury. Thibs is just a moron.

If he's not healthy enough to play he shouldn't dress. He's available to play. He should play. I'm the last one that wants to rush him back.

Who does he take out of rotation?

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Is that even a serious question? Rose is on his last legs he's gone either traded early or after the season

[mpharris36]

Dolan wants to sell playoff tickets and go up on ticket prices in general based on a playoff appearance(s). He could do it without those things but he can only do so much with the Nets in Brooklyn. If you remember that everything this team does makes sense. Mid tier is good enough if they can increase ticket prices. The playing game might be enough to go up too.

That’s why even last year when they should have tanked they/were struggling to try and sneak into the play in. That’s all Dolan wants in addition to no one calling him out when the team loses.

I agree, but I can't remember a regime that is full sending a .500 record...like this is the most mid team maybe in NBA history.

If .500 gets them in the play in Dolan is happy.

Dolan was fuming 2 games ago with getting embarrassed by OKC. Dolan wants a star more than anything.

[Chanel Bomber]

Nice troll job but, I'm not the one bruh. RJ may need to clean up some things but, other than being inefficient for a couple of years he is nothing like Boolius.

My biggest issue with RJ is when he plays with his head down. He can go solo a little too often at times. It is what it is. He is nothing like Randle though. Two completely different players.

They are both selfish in different ways.

Randle because he holds onto the ball.

RJ because he shoots it whenever he touches the ball. Yes, it's an exaggeration, sue me. But just to provide some evidence, among high-usage players (>24 usage rate and >30 minutes per game), RJ ranks 48 out of 54 in assists per game. Definition of a chucker.

They are both delusional about their abilities as well. The way they carry themselves doesn't match how good they are.

They are both try-hards.

They are two different players. RJ is also 5 years younger. More likely learning bad habits from Julius than anything else. RJ moves the ball more and moves without the ball more. He plays better defnese more often and he's more team oriented and plays at a faster pace.

The only thing they have in common is inefficient scoring. That's it. RJ does put his head down at times and it does bother me when he drives and can't finish. They are two completely different players though.

Randle walks around the court most of the time. Plays zero defense. Thinks he's Kobe. There's a huge difference in the way they play. Randle passes more because most of them are bail outs at the end of the clock.

It's lazy comparisons lumping the two together. I still have a little faith in RJ improving some of his flaws. Randle will not change at all.

RJ was like this at Duke as well. It was one of his red flags. Several scouts pointed out his selfishness, especially on a team with Zion. So it's not Randle's fault that RJ plays as selfishly as he does. This trait precedes Randle.

But if anything, I blame Thibs and the organization for enabling his worst tendencies and not correcting them as part of his development. RJ is the definition of a chucker and a black hole at this point. Many people celebrated his selfish chase for 20ppg last year as if it meant something, but personally it just made me sad.

There are some stylistic differences (even though they're both boring to watch) but sorry, they have more than a few traits in common.

They are both inefficient. They are both selfish. They are both boring to watch. They are both physical/aggressive players who lack athleticism. They are both try-hards. They both drop the ball on defense. They both got over $100 million from the Knicks. The only difference is that Randle's a ball-hog, while RJ is a chucker. And yes, age, but Randle was 22 once.

[Jalen Bluntson]

They are both selfish in different ways.

Randle because he holds onto the ball.

RJ because he shoots it whenever he touches the ball. Yes, it's an exaggeration, sue me. But just to provide some evidence, among high-usage players (>24 usage rate and >30 minutes per game), RJ ranks 48 out of 54 in assists per game. Definition of a chucker.

They are both delusional about their abilities as well. The way they carry themselves doesn't match how good they are.

They are both try-hards.

True. RJ has to recognize that he currently is not nearly as effective a scorer as he thinks he is.

On too many drives, RJ looks like Charles Smith taking on the entire Jordan Bulls' defense - with similar results.

He lacks both the explosiveness and quickness to be the elite finisher he imagines himself to be. He desperately needs to develop a slick mid-range game if he wants to become a legit star in this league.

This is all true. He is nothing like Julius though. People keep trying to pair them together and it doesn't fit. Two completely different players with similar flaws is all there is.