Is Kat really gonna be worse to watch than Randle?

[TheGreenArrow]

Brunson/Duece
Grimes/Burks
Rj/Jhart
Bogi/?
Kat/Ihart

Best team in the east!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[3toheadmelo]

Husk of PJ Tucker starting at the 4 is where you lost your credibility.

Wolves really like Naz Reid, so they may prefer to have him start at the 4 rather than pay another guy (Randle) to come in. They may be more apt to do something like Robinson to Griz, picks and Adams to the Wolves, and then the ask us for at least one of our wings (RJ, Grimes, IQ). In total sum a workable trade would be 2 protected picks from Mem, NY unprotected '24, 2 of our protected picks, IQ, then Adams and fournier contracts.

Ideally, I want us to be a better version of the Grit and Grind Griz. Randle and Brunson can fill the Conley/Randolph roles. I would argue RJ+Grimes has potential to be better than Allen/Prince. Can KAT at least be Gasol?

"Lost credibility?" My goodness you sound stupid. PJ Tucker is playing for the Clippers, I am not suggesting we go after him....

Get a clue...It's the model/type of player we need at the 4. A rugged 3 & D PF....not PJ Tucker himself.


Anyway, NO to everything else you said.

The problem you have is that "rugged 3 and D PF" may sound like an easy-to-get piece, but to get a starting quality guy, specifically one who can get rebounds, has good enough hands to make a decent pass etc... basically we land on we could really use Rasheed Wallace in his prime, maybe Shaun Marion.

I don't think either of us are over the moon with KAT OR Randle let alone both, but rather than having to make a series of deals like our roster is a rubix cube, it may just be easier to label some C's who can do 75% of what Mitch can with defense/boards, but who can hit a 3 (not lights out, but just enough to keep defenses honest) and make about 70% of free throws.

Most people don't like my #1 gamble target Ayton, but there are some names to look at. Turner, Embiid, KAT are high end targets. Wendell Carter Jr may be attainable. Naz Reid would be a guy, but I don't think he is available. Ayton and KP of course are other names to round out my target list. Not going to talk about anyone on their rookie contracts because no one good would/should be on a trade block.

All that to say that Ayton, WCJ, KAT are probably attainable and of those, the price/value would be best for Ayton and WCJ

i wanted ayton too. he looks pretty solid in portland. i dont think they will move him though.

[Chanel Bomber]

Randle is a 4.

KAT is a 5.

Absolutely fine with moving Randle, though his value is probably at its lowest now.

But you swap Randle with KAT, that means you have to move either Mitch or Hartenstein, and then find a defensive 4 with length. These players don't exactly grow on trees, and they come at a premium. We need names because I don't see this big pool of players who fit the profile and who are available for anything less than an overpay.

[3toheadmelo]

Meh people said the same thing about Jokic and he’s holding up at center pretty fine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Same thing with Sabonis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brunson and Kat would be a legit Dynamic duo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They’d be fine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jokic is one of the best offensive centers of all the time. KAT is not even close to his level.

sabonis has never made it out the 1st round of the playoffs.

Be better green arrow!!!

BE BETTER!!!

Crazy as it may sound, KAT is not even close to Jokic as a defender. Jok can direct a defense, disrupt passing lanes, and defend the post; he's just not a rim protector (which is a flaw).

I've rarely seen a prospect be so disappointing in the NBA in one aspect of the game after being elite in college. Unless it as all WCS, but I thought KAT stood out defensively at UK.

KAT's defense is what propelled him to be #1 over okafor. i dont know what happened to his defense. guess he wanted to chase big numbers instead idk

i remember WCS's workout video.. mf looked like he had an offensive game and fooled everyone

Watch on YouTube

[3toheadmelo]

Randle is a 4.

KAT is a 5.

Absolutely fine with moving Randle, though his value is probably at its lowest now.

But you swap Randle with KAT, that means you have to move either Mitch or Hartenstein, and then find a defensive 4 with length. These players don't exactly grow on trees, and they come at a premium. We need names because I don't see this big pool of players who fit the profile and who are available for anything less than an overpay.

deandre hunter is someone i really like. but i dont know if the hawks will trade him since he is breaking out this year. and they'd probably ask for rj.

[Iron Mantis]

The problem you have is that "rugged 3 and D PF" may sound like an easy-to-get piece, but to get a starting quality guy, specifically one who can get rebounds, has good enough hands to make a decent pass etc... basically we land on we could really use Rasheed Wallace in his prime, maybe Shaun Marion.

I don't think either of us are over the moon with KAT OR Randle let alone both, but rather than having to make a series of deals like our roster is a rubix cube, it may just be easier to label some C's who can do 75% of what Mitch can with defense/boards, but who can hit a 3 (not lights out, but just enough to keep defenses honest) and make about 70% of free throws.

Most people don't like my #1 gamble target Ayton, but there are some names to look at. Turner, Embiid, KAT are high end targets. Wendell Carter Jr may be attainable. Naz Reid would be a guy, but I don't think he is available. Ayton and KP of course are other names to round out my target list. Not going to talk about anyone on their rookie contracts because no one good would/should be on a trade block.

All that to say that Ayton, WCJ, KAT are probably attainable and of those, the price/value would be best for Ayton and WCJ

I wanted Ayton but that ship has sailed.

The most attainable may be KAT.

You just named two star PF's.....Knicks don't need a star PF. The center will be star up front.

Get A serviceable guy similar to Morris...just defend, rebound, hit the open 3, play D. A guy who can hit the 3 at league average....grab 6 or 7 boards and play defense.

This means the PF will probably be averaging only 10 points per game...and that's fine....because the WAY he's scoring those points (open kick out 3's, cuts) is conducive to an offense that's spreading the floor and allowing space for the ball to move and for Brunson, RJ, KAT to create effectively and efficiently in the paint...heck maybe even Grimes will drive more if the paint is open.

What would be an example? Morris is obviously also a husk so who would you be targeting to pair with KAT assuming we dealt Randle, Fournier and 3 of our protected picks.

I just gave you two examples.

I don't get paid to keep an exhaustive scouting record of every forward currently in the NBA........nevertheless many exist who can fit this simple role for now: Play d, hit the 3... age is not important, since the roster is completely bereft of forwards.

The front office gets paid millions of bucks to build a team.... So they have to figure it out. But get KAT for a fair price if he's available, and get Randle out.

[nykballa2k4]

I wanted Ayton but that ship has sailed.

The most attainable may be KAT.

You just named two star PF's.....Knicks don't need a star PF. The center will be star up front.

Get A serviceable guy similar to Morris...just defend, rebound, hit the open 3, play D. A guy who can hit the 3 at league average....grab 6 or 7 boards and play defense.

This means the PF will probably be averaging only 10 points per game...and that's fine....because the WAY he's scoring those points (open kick out 3's, cuts) is conducive to an offense that's spreading the floor and allowing space for the ball to move and for Brunson, RJ, KAT to create effectively and efficiently in the paint...heck maybe even Grimes will drive more if the paint is open.

What would be an example? Morris is obviously also a husk so who would you be targeting to pair with KAT assuming we dealt Randle, Fournier and 3 of our protected picks.

I just gave you two examples.

I don't get paid to keep an exhaustive scouting record of every forward currently in the NBA........nevertheless many exist who can fit this simple role for now: Play d, hit the 3... age is not important, since the roster is completely bereft of forwards.

The front office gets paid millions of bucks to build a team.... So they have to figure it out. But get KAT for a fair price if he's available, and get Randle out.

Did you give ME to example or put it elsewhere? The only two names you gave were PJ Tucker and a Morris type

[nykballa2k4]

"Lost credibility?" My goodness you sound stupid. PJ Tucker is playing for the Clippers, I am not suggesting we go after him....

Get a clue...It's the model/type of player we need at the 4. A rugged 3 & D PF....not PJ Tucker himself.


Anyway, NO to everything else you said.

The problem you have is that "rugged 3 and D PF" may sound like an easy-to-get piece, but to get a starting quality guy, specifically one who can get rebounds, has good enough hands to make a decent pass etc... basically we land on we could really use Rasheed Wallace in his prime, maybe Shaun Marion.

I don't think either of us are over the moon with KAT OR Randle let alone both, but rather than having to make a series of deals like our roster is a rubix cube, it may just be easier to label some C's who can do 75% of what Mitch can with defense/boards, but who can hit a 3 (not lights out, but just enough to keep defenses honest) and make about 70% of free throws.

Most people don't like my #1 gamble target Ayton, but there are some names to look at. Turner, Embiid, KAT are high end targets. Wendell Carter Jr may be attainable. Naz Reid would be a guy, but I don't think he is available. Ayton and KP of course are other names to round out my target list. Not going to talk about anyone on their rookie contracts because no one good would/should be on a trade block.

All that to say that Ayton, WCJ, KAT are probably attainable and of those, the price/value would be best for Ayton and WCJ

i wanted ayton too. he looks pretty solid in portland. i dont think they will move him though.

Never know. I think like with everything there is a price tag. Ayton may want more touches and not be happy eating after Simons, Scoot, Grant, and Sharpe. Mitch could be a better fit for their needs and if he comes with picks attached, obviously $ savings, could be a thing.

[Iron Mantis]

What would be an example? Morris is obviously also a husk so who would you be targeting to pair with KAT assuming we dealt Randle, Fournier and 3 of our protected picks.

I just gave you two examples.

I don't get paid to keep an exhaustive scouting record of every forward currently in the NBA........nevertheless many exist who can fit this simple role for now: Play d, hit the 3... age is not important, since the roster is completely bereft of forwards.

The front office gets paid millions of bucks to build a team.... So they have to figure it out. But get KAT for a fair price if he's available, and get Randle out.

Did you give ME to example or put it elsewhere? The only two names you gave were PJ Tucker and a Morris type

You're talking in circles.

We done here?

[nykballa2k4]

I just gave you two examples.

I don't get paid to keep an exhaustive scouting record of every forward currently in the NBA........nevertheless many exist who can fit this simple role for now: Play d, hit the 3... age is not important, since the roster is completely bereft of forwards.

The front office gets paid millions of bucks to build a team.... So they have to figure it out. But get KAT for a fair price if he's available, and get Randle out.

Did you give ME to example or put it elsewhere? The only two names you gave were PJ Tucker and a Morris type

You're talking in circles.

We done here?

Looks like it
You don't have any current attainable players in mind?

[Iron Mantis]

Did you give ME to example or put it elsewhere? The only two names you gave were PJ Tucker and a Morris type

You're talking in circles.

We done here?

Looks like it
You don't have any current attainable players in mind?

Yes, get KAT. He's the star.

The face of any random role player forward is irrelevant.

[robillionaire]

Randle is a 4.

KAT is a 5.

Absolutely fine with moving Randle, though his value is probably at its lowest now.

But you swap Randle with KAT, that means you have to move either Mitch or Hartenstein, and then find a defensive 4 with length. These players don't exactly grow on trees, and they come at a premium. We need names because I don't see this big pool of players who fit the profile and who are available for anything less than an overpay.

The elephant in the room is Minnesota probably wouldn’t even want Randle and if we did trade for towns, randle is still going to be here at the 4. They wouldn’t want Mitch either because they have Gobert

[Chanel Bomber]

Randle is a 4.

KAT is a 5.

Absolutely fine with moving Randle, though his value is probably at its lowest now.

But you swap Randle with KAT, that means you have to move either Mitch or Hartenstein, and then find a defensive 4 with length. These players don't exactly grow on trees, and they come at a premium. We need names because I don't see this big pool of players who fit the profile and who are available for anything less than an overpay.

The elephant in the room is Minnesota probably wouldn’t even want Randle and if we did trade for towns, randle is still going to be here at the 4. They wouldn’t want Mitch either because they have Gobert

At that point we’d have to try to stagger Mitch in here and there for defense and figure out some other deal later on down the road defense or maybe more realistically draft a defensive PF

basically it won’t happen. If you believe their story about Donovan not being a big enough star for them to trade for I don’t see why they’d see towns would be any different. They’re gonna keep kicking the can down the road and holding out for the Embiid’s and Giannis of the world.

I don't believe a word from Scott Perry about Donovan Mitchell.

And agreed on KAT. I don't think Minnesota are even in a rush to trade him, so it would likely take an overpay. I don't think most people here would be willing to part with the assets it would take to nab KAT. It'd be at least two of IQ/Grimes/RJ and two unprotected first-round picks. Minimum.

[Snacks]

Did you give ME to example or put it elsewhere? The only two names you gave were PJ Tucker and a Morris type

You're talking in circles.

We done here?

Looks like it
You don't have any current attainable players in mind?

I was going to say Tari Eason- but he just got signed by Houston
How about Jalen Smith---Pacers owe us a solid

[TheGreenArrow]

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[nykballa2k4]

You're talking in circles.

We done here?

Looks like it
You don't have any current attainable players in mind?

I was going to say Tari Eason- but he just got signed by Houston
How about Jalen Smith---Pacers owe us a solid

I don't know much about those guys. Are they going to be a positive in 30mpg?

[robillionaire]

Looks like it
You don't have any current attainable players in mind?

I was going to say Tari Eason- but he just got signed by Houston
How about Jalen Smith---Pacers owe us a solid

I don't know much about those guys. Are they going to be a positive in 30mpg?

Taj gibson

[nykballa2k4]

I was going to say Tari Eason- but he just got signed by Houston
How about Jalen Smith---Pacers owe us a solid

I don't know much about those guys. Are they going to be a positive in 30mpg?

Taj gibson

Been waiting for his return.

[dakomish23]

Jerami Grant might be a decent fit next to KAT.

I’d feel more confident if I had both Siakam and OG on the front line next to KAT. Possibly you can cover it up. Maybe TOR should trade for him

[Guano]

just going on record that I'm too good to watch KAT in a knicks uniform.


sorry the rest of you don't hold yourself to a higher standard.