PG: Knicks fall short in loss to Celts

[FrozenEnvelope]

No shame in losing to Boston on their court. They are better. Move on.

[DOT]

Name one 15th man ANY team plays significant minutes. Go ahead, we're waiting. Obviously that's your key to our being in the ECF.

If we cut the 15th man and signed someone to play significant minutes, then by definition the guy we replace him with isn't the 15th man, they would be in the top 10 rotation

You do understand that's what he's saying right? That instead of having a guy who can contribute, we have someone who isn't going to?

I trust you understand the difference between the 15th man and a rotation player or even a 105h man. Right?

If he meant to replace Sims or Deuce he should have said so. Replacing Ryan A. with a more expensive player who will actually contribute significant minutes will be much more costly - you do realize that, right?

I feel like you can't actually be this dense, you have to understand that you misunderstood and are just too proud to admit you were wrong lol

Why would we cut Deuce instead of Arcidiacono when Deuce is the better player? Simply cut Arcidiacono and sign someone else, keep Deuce as the 3rd string guard but now instead of having a 4th string guard we have a backup forward

It's super simple roster management, there's no way you don't understand that.

[8516knicks]

If we cut the 15th man and signed someone to play significant minutes, then by definition the guy we replace him with isn't the 15th man, they would be in the top 10 rotation

You do understand that's what he's saying right? That instead of having a guy who can contribute, we have someone who isn't going to?

I trust you understand the difference between the 15th man and a rotation player or even a 105h man. Right?

If he meant to replace Sims or Deuce he should have said so. Replacing Ryan A. with a more expensive player who will actually contribute significant minutes will be much more costly - you do realize that, right?

I feel like you can't actually be this dense, you have to understand that you misunderstood and are just too proud to admit you were wrong lolyo

Why would we cut Deuce instead of Arcidiacono when Deuce is the better player? Simply cut Arcidiacono and sign someone else, keep Deuce as the 3rd string guard but now instead of having a 4th string guard we have a backup forward

It's super simple roster management, there's no way you don't understand that.

I can't believe you're this dense and actually think a forward who will contribute significant minutes will cost what Ryan A. costs. Don't be too proud to admit you haven't thought this through properly. Sorry you don't understand economics.

[DOT]

I trust you understand the difference between the 15th man and a rotation player or even a 105h man. Right?

If he meant to replace Sims or Deuce he should have said so. Replacing Ryan A. with a more expensive player who will actually contribute significant minutes will be much more costly - you do realize that, right?

I feel like you can't actually be this dense, you have to understand that you misunderstood and are just too proud to admit you were wrong lolyo

Why would we cut Deuce instead of Arcidiacono when Deuce is the better player? Simply cut Arcidiacono and sign someone else, keep Deuce as the 3rd string guard but now instead of having a 4th string guard we have a backup forward

It's super simple roster management, there's no way you don't understand that.

I can't believe you're this dense and actually think a forward who will contribute significant minutes will cost what Ryan A. costs. Don't be too proud to admit you haven't thought this through properly. Sorry you don't understand economics.

I've never said anything about cost

You didn't either at first, you just pivoted to that once you realized your original point was dumb lol

Just say you're a Nova stan who wants Arcidiacono around. Be honest, stop pretending it's anything else.

[8516knicks]

I feel like you can't actually be this dense, you have to understand that you misunderstood and are just too proud to admit you were wrong lolyo

Why would we cut Deuce instead of Arcidiacono when Deuce is the better player? Simply cut Arcidiacono and sign someone else, keep Deuce as the 3rd string guard but now instead of having a 4th string guard we have a backup forward

It's super simple roster management, there's no way you don't understand that.

I can't believe you're this dense and actually think a forward who will contribute significant minutes will cost what Ryan A. costs. Don't be too proud to admit you haven't thought this through properly. Sorry you don't understand economics.

I've never said anything about cost

You didn't either at first, you just pivoted to that once you realized your original point was dumb lol

Just say you're a Nova stan who wants Arcidiacono around. Be honest, stop pretending it's anything else.

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[DOT]

I can't believe you're this dense and actually think a forward who will contribute significant minutes will cost what Ryan A. costs. Don't be too proud to admit you haven't thought this through properly. Sorry you don't understand economics.

I've never said anything about cost

You didn't either at first, you just pivoted to that once you realized your original point was dumb lol

Just say you're a Nova stan who wants Arcidiacono around. Be honest, stop pretending it's anything else.

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[8516knicks]

Samuel Johnson - ""Sir, I have found you an argument; but I am not obliged to find you an understanding."

Or you can name this forward who will replace our 15th man at the same or similar cost and play signifcant minutes. Go ahead, we're waiting...

[Knicksfan1992]

Are the Knicks really going to have 3 more games this week? Is the NBA out of the freaking mind?

It's a borderline miracle we're .500 given that we had 2 sets of 3 games in 4 days to start the season. About to have another one playing the Hawks tomorrow too. Schedule makers can really eff off.

[stuporman]

Bad enough the Knicks have to beat an opposing team, beat the refs but they apparently have to beat the schedule maker, too.

Uneven start to the season with some rough games from important players, a few missed games by another important player, a pretty tough schedule and they still started .500 in the first 10 games.

It is what it is and I don't think we should overreact to it....so when does the tour start?

[mpharris36]

Knicks are still fine overall. Of course we won’t win it all this year but things could be much worse.

A big wakness is obviously our lack of wing depth. There is nobody that can fill in when one of RJ, Hart, Randle gets hurt. We basically only have 3 Fs. And even Hart is undersized for that.

Honestly the reason they keep arcidiacono on the roster is malpractice. He is a glorified cheerleader. They already have Duece and even Fournier as 3rd string guards. They don't need him.

At least they should have a back up 3/4 on the roster that you know sort of can play in case of injury?

Name one 15th man ANY team plays significant minutes. Go ahead, we're waiting. Obviously that's your key to our being in the ECF.

just because the guy we replace arcidiacono with doesn't necessarily mean he will auto be the 15th man. Say we signed Lamar Stevens instead of Arcidiacono..Lamar Stevens wouldn't necessarily be our 15th man. What about Javonte Green. These are actually quality end of the bench rotational players that can at least defend there position.

Just sign Arcidiacono as a coach...because he isn't actually helping the 15 man roster...especially if we run into injuries.

[Deeeez Knicks]

At times Randle played great and hustled, and other times he made some awful plays and just gave up. Continues to be a rollercoaster

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[rajajackal]

At times Randle played great and hustled, and other times he made some awful plays and just gave up. Continues to be a rollercoaster

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he is talented but stupid (he's clearly smart off the court btw i'm just talking bbiq)

end of discussion lol

[ABOVE_THE_RIM]

Games where RJ is out Fournier should just start. It keeps the rotation intact and puts another shooter on the floor.

Also, Randle and Mitch don’t play well together. For 4 years Randle will be double & triple teamed with Mitch open under the basket and refuse to pass him the ball. Also there are just as many times where Randle will drive to basket and clearly sees Mitch blocking his path and still drive into a clogged lane. It’s partially poor court awareness on Mitch’s part. But still happens too many times which equates to 2-4 turnovers every game.

Another insult to injury is seeing Cam & Obi playing well in roles they could have had on the Knicks if Thibs wasn’t so stubborn in his ways. At least the team has 6 shooting guards that don’t play to make up for it.

[8516knicks]

Honestly the reason they keep arcidiacono on the roster is malpractice. He is a glorified cheerleader. They already have Duece and even Fournier as 3rd string guards. They don't need him.

At least they should have a back up 3/4 on the roster that you know sort of can play in case of injury?

Name one 15th man ANY team plays significant minutes. Go ahead, we're waiting. Obviously that's your key to our being in the ECF.

just because the guy we replace arcidiacono with doesn't necessarily mean he will auto be the 15th man. Say we signed Lamar Stevens instead of Arcidiacono..Lamar Stevens wouldn't necessarily be our 15th man. What about Javonte Green. These are actually quality end of the bench rotational players that can at least defend there position.

Just sign Arcidiacono as a coach...because he isn't actually helping the 15 man roster...especially if we run into injuries.

Okay, sign Green or Stevens. Do you think Thibs is going to play either one? They could have signed them but didn't. That should tell you something.

And even if they did play, what big difference would 10 min a game make with those guys when we had essentially that with Obi last year?

But sure, we need a forward, just not sure it's an end-of-the-bench guy. And I think a top 8 rotational player is going to cost double RA (or Stevens or Green for that matter.) And it needs a buy-in from Thibs (unlike Reddish, etc.)

[Iron Mantis]

Knicks have to make a move.

[KnixinSix]

No shame in losing to Boston on their court. They are better. Move on.

With RJ and not on a back to back where we lost steam in the 4Q, we might have taken this one.

[nedleeds]

Games like this show you why you need an alpha scorer that can consistently drop 25-30 points for you. When your offense goes stagnant, you give it to this player and have him create. We don't have that player. Boston does.

Bostons best 3 players would be our best 3 players. That's how far the gap is. Maybe if you like Jrue over Brunson it's 4.


But that 6th seed and playoff money for Dolan is going to be sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

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[mpharris36]

Name one 15th man ANY team plays significant minutes. Go ahead, we're waiting. Obviously that's your key to our being in the ECF.

just because the guy we replace arcidiacono with doesn't necessarily mean he will auto be the 15th man. Say we signed Lamar Stevens instead of Arcidiacono..Lamar Stevens wouldn't necessarily be our 15th man. What about Javonte Green. These are actually quality end of the bench rotational players that can at least defend there position.

Just sign Arcidiacono as a coach...because he isn't actually helping the 15 man roster...especially if we run into injuries.

Okay, sign Green or Stevens. Do you think Thibs is going to play either one? They could have signed them but didn't. That should tell you something.

And even if they did play, what big difference would 10 min a game make with those guys when we had essentially that with Obi last year?

But sure, we need a forward, just not sure it's an end-of-the-bench guy. And I think a top 8 rotational player is going to cost double RA (or Stevens or Green for that matter.) And it needs a buy-in from Thibs (unlike Reddish, etc.)

RJ couldn't play because of a migrane and thus Josh Hart had to play 43 minutes in a regular season game...because we have a lack of wins. You tell me thats not an issue.

I'm not suggesting signing a rotation player...I'm saying what the point of having a useless body on the bench as a glorified cheerleader. You haven't yet told me one thing Arcidiacono does to help the team. So why not just get a warm body that you know could actually sub in if RJ or Randle have to miss some time.

The roster distribution in terms of positions is very weighted towards guards. We could use another wing that you know can be a break in case of emergency player.

[mpharris36]

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this is the sad reality. so unfortunately adding myles turner won't make us a contender

Is it really a reality?

There is no one with a sound mind that is taking Haliburton/Maxey/Trae Young over Brunson in a playoff series.

Maybe because Maxeys start to this year you can maybe make that leap. And you know me I'm a big Haliburton guy. But the disrespect of Brunson is sort of ridiculous vs his positional peers.

that wasn't my point. those guys are having better years so far, and that's all this is judging i think, but it was more about us having 1 guy on the pyramid and not near the top.

if its only based on this year how isn't RJ up there...he is having better years then a few of those guys...

[thebuzzardman]

If we cut the 15th man and signed someone to play significant minutes, then by definition the guy we replace him with isn't the 15th man, they would be in the top 10 rotation

You do understand that's what he's saying right? That instead of having a guy who can contribute, we have someone who isn't going to?

I trust you understand the difference between the 15th man and a rotation player or even a 105h man. Right?

If he meant to replace Sims or Deuce he should have said so. Replacing Ryan A. with a more expensive player who will actually contribute significant minutes will be much more costly - you do realize that, right?

I feel like you can't actually be this dense, you have to understand that you misunderstood and are just too proud to admit you were wrong lol

Why would we cut Deuce instead of Arcidiacono when Deuce is the better player? Simply cut Arcidiacono and sign someone else, keep Deuce as the 3rd string guard but now instead of having a 4th string guard we have a backup forward

It's super simple roster management, there's no way you don't understand that.

Sims and Fournier seem like candidates too. Archie's the cheapest though, to waive. Those two more to put in a trade