Steve Popper- Brunson willing to take 4 year 156 million dollar extension

[WargamesX]

Brunson wants to eventually be Jeter status with this move.

jeter had enough to own a team

Or Jeter was respected enough he was invited to invest with guy who had enough to own a team.

[jvsimonetti0514]

Yeah him making less money would be good for the org and all, but from a practical standpoint, how much does it actually change?

OG needs his new contract, we got Randle's deal coming up, Mitch is still locked in, iHart might get a big pay raise, Hart is making a lot too. That's like the entirety of the cap between them 6 as is, even if Jalen takes a discount and Randle/OG re-up for closer to $35 mil each

I don't think taking less is gonna open up any real cap space, it'll just be like, the tax apron stuff. Most of the benefit would be saving Dolan a bit of money

Organizationally you still do it in a heartbeat if he's willing to accept it, but it's not a franchise-altering discount.

I don't think the tax aprons are just a new type of luxury tax. There's a bunch of trade restrictions once you go over them. I know that you lose the ability to do sign and trades after the 2nd one. Possibly lose the rights to sign guys to vet minimums as well? There's also some changes that would force you to made trades at the exact dollar amount too. So there's def benefits other than for Dolan's checkbook.

The new tax aprons are even worse. If u hit 182m 3 out of 5 years ur frp gets converted to the end of the first round.

It's crazy that the players signed off on this deal. The more I hear about it the more terrible it sounds. I haven't even heard of that penalty before. Let's hope we can avoid the 2nd apron forever.

[Context]

Brunson wants to eventually be Jeter status with this move.

jeter had enough to own a team

Or Jeter was respected enough he was invited to invest with guy who had enough to own a team.

Bingo!
This was the theme of what I was trying to explain in another thread. Every person involved would be wise to make the concessions
to bring a chip to NY because the value that would come with that-would far exceed up front money...

[3toheadmelo]

I'd actually judge him negatively for this. It's one of those things were I struggle to separate sports from real life and I can't stand coworkers that do this kinda lame sht. Maximize your earnings and don't let the company get over on you.

It's the FO job to get the right people around him to win within the cap. If he is a top 5 mvp candidate he is worth a super mx and the fo should be able to build a championship team around him while paying him his worth.

Now as a fan. I love this. Principals be damned. Fck over the working man to get me a chip.

[ezmoney707]

Yeah him making less money would be good for the org and all, but from a practical standpoint, how much does it actually change?

OG needs his new contract, we got Randle's deal coming up, Mitch is still locked in, iHart might get a big pay raise, Hart is making a lot too. That's like the entirety of the cap between them 6 as is, even if Jalen takes a discount and Randle/OG re-up for closer to $35 mil each

I don't think taking less is gonna open up any real cap space, it'll just be like, the tax apron stuff. Most of the benefit would be saving Dolan a bit of money

Organizationally you still do it in a heartbeat if he's willing to accept it, but it's not a franchise-altering discount.

I don't think the tax aprons are just a new type of luxury tax. There's a bunch of trade restrictions once you go over them. I know that you lose the ability to do sign and trades after the 2nd one. Possibly lose the rights to sign guys to vet minimums as well? There's also some changes that would force you to made trades at the exact dollar amount too. So there's def benefits other than for Dolan's checkbook.

yeah I think the 2nd apron hurts in executing trades.

You can't take on more money in a deal

and

You can't aggregate 2 players in a deal to match one player

so if you had a 20 MM player and 15 MM and wanted to trade for a 34 MM you couldn't do that.

You basically could only make 1 for 1 type deal or take on less money.

Also it virtually ended the ring chaser era where teams could sign those vets to already stacked teams after the trade deadline in the buyout market.

[sol537]

I don't think the tax aprons are just a new type of luxury tax. There's a bunch of trade restrictions once you go over them. I know that you lose the ability to do sign and trades after the 2nd one. Possibly lose the rights to sign guys to vet minimums as well? There's also some changes that would force you to made trades at the exact dollar amount too. So there's def benefits other than for Dolan's checkbook.

The new tax aprons are even worse. If u hit 182m 3 out of 5 years ur frp gets converted to the end of the first round.

It's crazy that the players signed off on this deal. The more I hear about it the more terrible it sounds. I haven't even heard of that penalty before. Let's hope we can avoid the 2nd apron forever.

It's awesome.... no more super teams... much more parity... increases our chances of a title.

[NowWHYcee7]

Some of you want Brunson to make personal sacrifices to make Leon's job easier and your hobby more enjoyable. Disgusting behavior.

Only if it’s his choice. Idk why people are so invested in other people’s pockets.

[mihaic]

The only reason Brunson takes this is if he thinks his body is broken. Avoid an Isiah Thomas situation.

Unless he's paid under the table.

[KnicksGadfly]

Damn the Nuggets are already over the 2nd apron and have only 6 guys they trust in the playoffs…this stuff matters

[cgmw]

The only reason Brunson takes this is if he thinks his body is broken. Avoid an Isiah Thomas situation.

Unless he's paid under the table.

Idk if it’s that cut and dried, but certainly playing for Thibs is a major factor. It increases his injury probability to a significant enough multiple to make the math work on securing a deal sooner than later.

[F N 11]

Gotta imagine the NBAPA isn’t happy about this

Nobody bat an eye when Miami W’s forming super teams.

[robillionaire]

Yeah him making less money would be good for the org and all, but from a practical standpoint, how much does it actually change?

OG needs his new contract, we got Randle's deal coming up, Mitch is still locked in, iHart might get a big pay raise, Hart is making a lot too. That's like the entirety of the cap between them 6 as is, even if Jalen takes a discount and Randle/OG re-up for closer to $35 mil each

I don't think taking less is gonna open up any real cap space, it'll just be like, the tax apron stuff. Most of the benefit would be saving Dolan a bit of money

Organizationally you still do it in a heartbeat if he's willing to accept it, but it's not a franchise-altering discount.

I don't think the tax aprons are just a new type of luxury tax. There's a bunch of trade restrictions once you go over them. I know that you lose the ability to do sign and trades after the 2nd one. Possibly lose the rights to sign guys to vet minimums as well? There's also some changes that would force you to made trades at the exact dollar amount too. So there's def benefits other than for Dolan's checkbook.

The new tax aprons are even worse. If u hit 182m 3 out of 5 years ur frp gets converted to the end of the first round.

Just trade the picks first or have the best record in the nba every year so it won’t matter

[robillionaire]

The only reason Brunson takes this is if he thinks his body is broken. Avoid an Isiah Thomas situation.

Unless he's paid under the table.

Idk if it’s that cut and dried, but certainly playing for Thibs is a major factor. It increases his injury probability to a significant enough multiple to make the math work on securing a deal sooner than later.

Thibs keeps winning. Getting us huge discounts now. Blessed

[Besart19]

Randle better be willing to take less than 4/180 then.

You mean 4/140

[cgmw]

The only reason Brunson takes this is if he thinks his body is broken. Avoid an Isiah Thomas situation.

Unless he's paid under the table.

Idk if it’s that cut and dried, but certainly playing for Thibs is a major factor. It increases his injury probability to a significant enough multiple to make the math work on securing a deal sooner than later.

Thibs keeps winning. Getting us huge discounts now. Blessed

No sarcasm I think that’s actually what’s happening. If I’m Jalen, I look no further than Thibs history with DRose to secure my bag right f’ing now TYVM.

[robillionaire]

Idk if it’s that cut and dried, but certainly playing for Thibs is a major factor. It increases his injury probability to a significant enough multiple to make the math work on securing a deal sooner than later.

Thibs keeps winning. Getting us huge discounts now. Blessed

No sarcasm I think that’s actually what’s happening. If I’m Jalen, I look no further than Thibs history with DRose to secure my bag right f’ing now TYVM.

Awesome hopefully this paranoia helps us get many more bargain extensions in the future

[cgmw]

Thibs keeps winning. Getting us huge discounts now. Blessed

No sarcasm I think that’s actually what’s happening. If I’m Jalen, I look no further than Thibs history with DRose to secure my bag right f’ing now TYVM.

Awesome hopefully this paranoia helps us get many more bargain extensions in the future

Yeah for the next time Thibs transforms a role player into All-NBA Second Team by hurling him 99% velocity at the rim for 90 games @40 min per.

There’s paranoia and there’s common sense. Personally, I’d take the money up front if I were Jalen. If he stays healthy, he’ll more than make it up later.

[MrDollarBills]

Steve Popper would be a cool porn name.

[TheGreenArrow]

Read on Twitter

?s=46&t=W09F6FrMDfp5_y1gKYgF1g

[Spree2Houston]

Yeah him making less money would be good for the org and all, but from a practical standpoint, how much does it actually change?

OG needs his new contract, we got Randle's deal coming up, Mitch is still locked in, iHart might get a big pay raise, Hart is making a lot too. That's like the entirety of the cap between them 6 as is, even if Jalen takes a discount and Randle/OG re-up for closer to $35 mil each

I don't think taking less is gonna open up any real cap space, it'll just be like, the tax apron stuff. Most of the benefit would be saving Dolan a bit of money

Organizationally you still do it in a heartbeat if he's willing to accept it, but it's not a franchise-altering discount.

I don't think the tax aprons are just a new type of luxury tax. There's a bunch of trade restrictions once you go over them. I know that you lose the ability to do sign and trades after the 2nd one. Possibly lose the rights to sign guys to vet minimums as well? There's also some changes that would force you to made trades at the exact dollar amount too. So there's def benefits other than for Dolan's checkbook.

The new tax aprons are even worse. If u hit 182m 3 out of 5 years ur frp gets converted to the end of the first round.

Yup, which is you can’t have 3 stars on your team anymore. You can only build with 2