Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center

[movingon]

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So true!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Knicks paid 300 cents on the dollar while positioning themselves to be in rough shape as Brunson/Bridges hit their early 30's and Randle his mid 30's (2028-2031) for a fringe top-30 player.

I guess it would have been historic if I maxed out all my credit cards to pay a Ferrari price for shiny new S Class.

Remember, the ancillary cost of the Bridges trade was having no assets to play with for an extended period of time.

Are you Ari from Manhattan?

[Ghetto Gospel]

they need to tank to keep their pick

i think you can tank with kessler, he's not that good lmao.

yeah its more Lauri the guy they need to move. The only reason to potentially move kessler now is you might get less return in a year because he would only have 1 more year left on his deal and if they plan on playing other bigs his value will go down. It all depends on how the Jazz want to play. They seem to value floor spacing which is why Kessler rookie year to 2nd year kinda didn't really improve much and was stagnant.

or he didn't improve much because he isn't that talented. he's probably just a career rim runner

[Orange Mamba]

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[R-DAWG]

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So true!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Knicks paid 300 cents on the dollar while positioning themselves to be in rough shape as Brunson/Bridges hit their early 30's and Randle his mid 30's (2028-2031) for a fringe top-30 player.

I guess it would have been historic if I maxed out all my credit cards to pay a Ferrari price for shiny new S Class.

Remember, the ancillary cost of the Bridges trade was having no assets to play with for an extended period of time.

Are you Ari from Manhattan?

I'm sorry, Mikal Bridges is the G.O.A.T. and the Knicks stole him from Brooklyn at a discount.

I responded to Hahn saying that the Knicks getting Bridges was historic by giving an opinion that the only historic part about the trade was the overpay by the Knicks. Which, most reports who like the deal concede its an overpay.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

76ers fumbled not going after derozen instead of pg13….that contract is perfect team contract

DeRozan can't shoot threes, they're better off with George.

With an empty roster, I thought they could have pivot to DeMar and pull off another deal. Joel shoots 3's, Maxey shoots 3's. Having another guy to hit 3's makes DeMar look appealing as their mid-range guy.

5 guys that can shoot threes is better than 4, the ultimate goal for any team now is putting 5 players on the court that you have to close out on that can also attack the close out.

[mpharris36]

i think you can tank with kessler, he's not that good lmao.

yeah its more Lauri the guy they need to move. The only reason to potentially move kessler now is you might get less return in a year because he would only have 1 more year left on his deal and if they plan on playing other bigs his value will go down. It all depends on how the Jazz want to play. They seem to value floor spacing which is why Kessler rookie year to 2nd year kinda didn't really improve much and was stagnant.

or he didn't improve much because he isn't that talented. he's probably just a career rim runner

a career rim runner that also was the best rim protector in the NBA last year. And if you look at the Jazz roster they aren't littered with good perimeter defenders. So for what we need I think he would fit with the potential to maybe improve and take over for Mitch down the road.

[Knicksrule2k4]

Bertrans only averages 1.4 rebounds a game but does shoot 39 percent from 3.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

76ers fumbled not going after derozen instead of pg13….that contract is perfect team contract

DeRozan can't shoot threes, they're better off with George.

yeah but with that extra 27 million you could find plenty who do...additionally last 5 years derozen has played 60 games or more in 4/5 years while PG13 has done it once.....

I'd rather have PG than DeRozan, just a higher talent level with much better shooting. It doesn't matter who else they could have gotten because they'd have 1 guy in their starting 5 that doesn't need to be accounted for from three, 1 guy that teams can sag off of when Maxey drives or Embiid creates and it's one guy that can't function as well without the ball because of his lack of shooting.

[KnixinSix]

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Not a shot blocker or rebounder at 6-10. He would mainly be an 3 ball kind of sub in for depth.

He would be a nice depth add but we would still need the 5 and the backup 1.

[Jeffrey]

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Not a shot blocker or rebounder at 6-10. He would mainly be an 3 ball kind of sub in for depth.

He would be a nice depth add but we would still need the 5 and the backup 1.

Would y'all have him or Luke Kennard? Or is it because of his size and our frontcourt doesn't have a lot of offensive capabilities not named Randle.

[Ghetto Gospel]

yeah its more Lauri the guy they need to move. The only reason to potentially move kessler now is you might get less return in a year because he would only have 1 more year left on his deal and if they plan on playing other bigs his value will go down. It all depends on how the Jazz want to play. They seem to value floor spacing which is why Kessler rookie year to 2nd year kinda didn't really improve much and was stagnant.

or he didn't improve much because he isn't that talented. he's probably just a career rim runner

a career rim runner that also was the best rim protector in the NBA last year. And if you look at the Jazz roster they aren't littered with good perimeter defenders. So for what we need I think he would fit with the potential to maybe improve and take over for Mitch down the road.

if he was the best rim protector in the NBA, the jazz would give him 36min/game and ask for 5 1st round picks like they did gobert. i watched him against zach edey last night, come on now. he's a fine backup rim-running C, basically mitch 2.0

[NoLayupRule]

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Not a shot blocker or rebounder at 6-10. He would mainly be an 3 ball kind of sub in for depth.

He would be a nice depth add but we would still need the 5 and the backup 1.

I think we will see a rotation of Duce and Kolek at the backup 1

Kolek looks like he may be ready to play from day 1 but obviously hes gonna have to earn it with Thibs

[Jalen Bluntson]

The Knicks paid 300 cents on the dollar while positioning themselves to be in rough shape as Brunson/Bridges hit their early 30's and Randle his mid 30's (2028-2031) for a fringe top-30 player.

I guess it would have been historic if I maxed out all my credit cards to pay a Ferrari price for shiny new S Class.

Remember, the ancillary cost of the Bridges trade was having no assets to play with for an extended period of time.

Are you Ari from Manhattan?

I'm sorry, Mikal Bridges is the G.O.A.T. and the Knicks stole him from Brooklyn at a discount.

I responded to Hahn saying that the Knicks getting Bridges was historic by giving an opinion that the only historic part about the trade was the overpay by the Knicks. Which, most reports who like the deal concede its an overpay.

The Knicks and Nets hadn't made a deal in over 4 decades. That's pretty historic. I wish they could have kept the 2031 pick but, they gave up garbage to get him. He's one of the best two way wings in the league who never misses time. That doesn't come cheap.

[aggo]

Lamarcus Aldridge is available

[SelbyCobra]

Lamarcus Aldridge is available

But should we go get him?

[Ghetto Gospel]

Lamarcus Aldridge is available

i think he retired

[mpharris36]

or he didn't improve much because he isn't that talented. he's probably just a career rim runner

a career rim runner that also was the best rim protector in the NBA last year. And if you look at the Jazz roster they aren't littered with good perimeter defenders. So for what we need I think he would fit with the potential to maybe improve and take over for Mitch down the road.

if he was the best rim protector in the NBA, the jazz would give him 36min/game and ask for 5 1st round picks like they did gobert. i watched him against zach edey last night, come on now. he's a fine backup rim-running C, basically mitch 2.0

players shot a lower % at the rim vs him than Gobert or KP. We can argue about semantics about "the best" but he is an ELITE rim protector.

[aggo]

Lamarcus Aldridge is available

i think he retired

Go get him

[R-DAWG]

Are you Ari from Manhattan?

I'm sorry, Mikal Bridges is the G.O.A.T. and the Knicks stole him from Brooklyn at a discount.

I responded to Hahn saying that the Knicks getting Bridges was historic by giving an opinion that the only historic part about the trade was the overpay by the Knicks. Which, most reports who like the deal concede its an overpay.

The Knicks and Nets hadn't made a deal in over 4 decades. That's pretty historic. I wish they could have kept the 2031 pick but, they gave up garbage to get him. He's one of the best two way wings in the league who never misses time. That doesn't come cheap.

I disagree that they gave up garbage. And there are ancillary costs to giving up the amount of future draft capital they gave up.

Sure, the 2 picks they gave up in 2025 are likely to fall in the 20's, which one likely in the high 20's. I'll even give you that the 2027 1st likely falls in the 20's.

But 2028, 2029 and 2031 - those are scary. This team will be older. If it works out well they will have a ton of playoff miles on time. It's more likely that 2 of those picks come back to hurt than 0.

Not to mention, the roster has holes and those holes will become more defined as the roster gets older and more expensive. The paths to patch those holes are very limited.

I see so many similarities to the Derrick Rose Bulls here. That team had a 2 year run as the top seed in the east but wasn't good enough to get past Miami. Then settled in as a mid level playoff team for 3 years. By year 6 they missed the playoffs and started to rebuild. And to jump ahead of this, Rose got hurt and was never the same but they also developed a home grown star in Jimmy Butler.

But break down those rosters:

Rose and Brunson play a similar role
Randle and Boozer are your similar traditional PF, not ideal #2 option but best available guy
They had Deng/Noah whereas we have Bridges/OG
Their Mitchell Robinson was Ronnie Brewer
Our Taj Gibson is Josh Hart
Their Donte DeVincenzo was Kyle Korver
And Omer Asik and Duce McBride round it out

[HarthorneWingo]

I'm okay with Mitch/Hukporti/Sims to start the season with the option to play smaller too. This team has a good size window, at this point it might be best to see what we got then adjust again from there.

Hukporti the backup center?

No.

He was signed to a 2-way deal, so not even sure he'll be with the team very much. He'll have to really show off to stay with the Knicks.

Makes sense. We know Thibs doesn’t trust rookies normally.