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Starks wrote:What's up with Bridges shot fr?
How do you go from being a career .371 on 3s and .844 on FTs to .30 and .636 ?!
JayTWill wrote:Context wrote:mpharris36 wrote:
With no Luka, no Gafford, no Klay I don't think that a good enough excuse to say we are missing two bigs.
I know you guys are hot tonight but I stand by what I said. We just played the champs of the west. Klay wasnt on that team. They added Naji- who's better than Derrick. Today, we cant beat the defending champs on their home floor with our new team-much less our short handed new team mph...
They were missing 3 key players including their best player Luka while having multiple players returning from an illness that has ran through their locker room and playing their 3rd games in 4 nights after just coming home from a short road trip. I can't think of a more favorable situation to come into their house and beat the "champs of the west". The only excuse I would accept for how poorly the Knicks performed last night was they were sick too since I know a Thibs team would be unlikely to rest sick players.
You are excusing them for missing Klay since he was not on their team last year but ignoring that we got our ass kicked by almost everyone including Grimes, Marshall and Dinwiddie, 3 guys that weren't on the team last year either. The Knicks have some clear issues that need to be fixed. It's early so I wont panic but I hope the season doesn't completely depend on the return of an injury prone Mitch and Precious who was collecting DNP's while Hart was playing the full games near the end of last year.
NiceLikeChrist wrote:Folks in this board talk about precious and Mitch like it’s giannis and Hakeem
If we are seriously placing all of our chips on a role player and historically injury prone defensive center to save our season then that is not a good look. Oh yes don’t forget Landry shamet is the third musketeer who will catapult us to greatness.
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Starks wrote:What's up with Bridges shot fr?
How do you go from being a career .371 on 3s and .844 on FTs to .30 and .636 ?!
He changed it for absolutely no reason at all.
The only chance we have with him is during a long home stand he gets in the gym with trainers and tweaks it, or he works on it during the all-star break. The shot won't get any better without him fixing the form.
taikibansei wrote:NiceLikeChrist wrote:Folks in this board talk about precious and Mitch like it’s giannis and Hakeem
If we are seriously placing all of our chips on a role player and historically injury prone defensive center to save our season then that is not a good look. Oh yes don’t forget Landry shamet is the third musketeer who will catapult us to greatness.
We basically traded our entire bench to get a starting five with a higher (championship potential) ceiling. I like our starting five--definitely improved--but now we (like all championship teams) need a strong bench filled with role players who can come in and spot the starters and/or even win the occasional game. The RS is long, players get tired and injuries happen. We need to be able to go 8-9 players deep each night (and a coach willing to play those players) to truly compete.
thebuzzardman wrote:Didn't watch. Thibs got totally outcoached again didn't he?
? stuporman wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:Didn't watch. Thibs got totally outcoached again didn't he?
Yes, because coaching is the reason the Knicks shot 26%fg and 19%3pt in the first half, he should just coach harder that lazy bum.
3toheadmelo wrote:taikibansei wrote:NiceLikeChrist wrote:Folks in this board talk about precious and Mitch like it’s giannis and Hakeem
If we are seriously placing all of our chips on a role player and historically injury prone defensive center to save our season then that is not a good look. Oh yes don’t forget Landry shamet is the third musketeer who will catapult us to greatness.
We basically traded our entire bench to get a starting five with a higher (championship potential) ceiling. I like our starting five--definitely improved--but now we (like all championship teams) need a strong bench filled with role players who can come in and spot the starters and/or even win the occasional game. The RS is long, players get tired and injuries happen. We need to be able to go 8-9 players deep each night (and a coach willing to play those players) to truly compete.
I still stand on that we should’ve ran it back. This team is soft.
Starks wrote:Spree2Houston wrote:We miss Mitch’ offensive rebounding. We’ve had plenty of trash shooting nights last few years but won because we kept getting 2nd and 3rd opportunities. Right now if we have a trash shooting night we’re toast.
Losing Hartenstein to FA was the pivot. I think people still don't realize how much he did for us the last 2 seasons.
Not that we could do anything about it though. I hope Mitch fixes some of that, for a few weeks anyways before getting injured again.
3toheadmelo wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Starks wrote:What's up with Bridges shot fr?
How do you go from being a career .371 on 3s and .844 on FTs to .30 and .636 ?!
He changed it for absolutely no reason at all.
The only chance we have with him is during a long home stand he gets in the gym with trainers and tweaks it, or he works on it during the all-star break. The shot won't get any better without him fixing the form.
Form is so bad it’s gonna take a whole off season to fix
TheGreenArrow wrote:Starks wrote:Spree2Houston wrote:We miss Mitch’ offensive rebounding. We’ve had plenty of trash shooting nights last few years but won because we kept getting 2nd and 3rd opportunities. Right now if we have a trash shooting night we’re toast.
Losing Hartenstein to FA was the pivot. I think people still don't realize how much he did for us the last 2 seasons.
Not that we could do anything about it though. I hope Mitch fixes some of that, for a few weeks anyways before getting injured again.
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Yep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He was our most important player tbh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Franchise changing loss Folkssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Context wrote:Capn'O wrote:I just watched the end of Ws/Thunder. What a damn shame we didn't give iHart the 3rd year.
Again, I wouldn't be surprised if it was his call and he bet on himself.
I like Ihart but I like Kat better Cap
We will not be able to do so. We traded for KAT for cost certainty as well as talent. Everybody is locked up. We're just under the second apron and probably have to trade Precious and pieces this year to mainatin that.taikibansei wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:taikibansei wrote:
We basically traded our entire bench to get a starting five with a higher (championship potential) ceiling. I like our starting five--definitely improved--but now we (like all championship teams) need a strong bench filled with role players who can come in and spot the starters and/or even win the occasional game. The RS is long, players get tired and injuries happen. We need to be able to go 8-9 players deep each night (and a coach willing to play those players) to truly compete.
I still stand on that we should’ve ran it back. This team is soft.
This team is soft, yes, but it's fixable. In theory, we now have the parts on offense necessary to compete with anyone. We need dogs off the bench willing to scruff things up--get those rebounds, fight through screens, apply defensive pressure, smack down the Embiids when they try to injure a starter, slow down the Spencer **** Dinwewewiddies of the world when they get hot, etc. I don't really get the current CBA, but I'm hoping we'll be able to add to this starting five moving forward. And soon.
taikibansei wrote:Capn'O wrote:I just watched the end of Ws/Thunder. What a damn shame we didn't give iHart the 3rd year.
Again, I wouldn't be surprised if it was his call and he bet on himself.
I'd thought we'd offered iHart our max under the current CBA, and OKC just basically doubled that because they could?
If we could have offered more but didn't, and that was the reason iHart is not here...then yeah, that really, really sucks....
prophet_of_rage wrote:We will not be able to do so. We traded for KAT for cost certainty as well as talent. Everybody is locked up. We're just under the second apron and probably have to trade Precious and pieces this year to mainatin that.taikibansei wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:I still stand on that we should’ve ran it back. This team is soft.
This team is soft, yes, but it's fixable. In theory, we now have the parts on offense necessary to compete with anyone. We need dogs off the bench willing to scruff things up--get those rebounds, fight through screens, apply defensive pressure, smack down the Embiids when they try to injure a starter, slow down the Spencer **** Dinwewewiddies of the world when they get hot, etc. I don't really get the current CBA, but I'm hoping we'll be able to add to this starting five moving forward. And soon.
This is a parity league right now.
Capn'O wrote:Context wrote:Capn'O wrote:I just watched the end of Ws/Thunder. What a damn shame we didn't give iHart the 3rd year.
Again, I wouldn't be surprised if it was his call and he bet on himself.
I like Ihart but I like Kat better Cap
Context wrote:JayTWill wrote:Context wrote:I know you guys are hot tonight but I stand by what I said. We just played the champs of the west. Klay wasnt on that team. They added Naji- who's better than Derrick. Today, we cant beat the defending champs on their home floor with our new team-much less our short handed new team mph...
They were missing 3 key players including their best player Luka while having multiple players returning from an illness that has ran through their locker room and playing their 3rd games in 4 nights after just coming home from a short road trip. I can't think of a more favorable situation to come into their house and beat the "champs of the west". The only excuse I would accept for how poorly the Knicks performed last night was they were sick too since I know a Thibs team would be unlikely to rest sick players.
You are excusing them for missing Klay since he was not on their team last year but ignoring that we got our ass kicked by almost everyone including Grimes, Marshall and Dinwiddie, 3 guys that weren't on the team last year either. The Knicks have some clear issues that need to be fixed. It's early so I wont panic but I hope the season doesn't completely depend on the return of an injury prone Mitch and Precious who was collecting DNP's while Hart was playing the full games near the end of last year.
I'm the type of guy that works with 2 hours sleep. Runs in the rain...etc...I'm not making excuses...I'm just stating the reasons they lost.
If you get in a fight with a guy who's stronger than you- biger than you and smarter than you and I state that as a reason you lost- thats not an excuse.
I keep hearing 3 key players...Klay just got here and he's been terrible AND he wasnt here last year. He's never been a key player
on this Mav team and he was part of the team that went to the finals. You want to call Gad and Luka key. I agree they are key players. However, Gad is 1 big of a two headed big monster. And in our case his team was facing a team VOID of their bigs except for one of them. Sims in relation to Mitch -Kat and Precious is our forth string big. Therefore, an experienced team like the Mavs who just won the west 5 months ago could handle that. Luka is definitely a big void when he's on the bench. However, when you are playing essentially 6 guys(our Knicks) who are still trying to figure out chemistry(missing men-short rotation) and you have other nba vets- it's not a difficult task to beat said team with a Kyrie led squad.
Naji is not some bum- he's big- can shoot - and defend- thats why Dallas let Derrick go and signed him. Today- he's better than Klay..
I just think some of you don't understand that we are a work in progress and until we are fully formed into our potential we are going to lose games like this against top teams.
Be patient
Capn'O wrote:taikibansei wrote:Capn'O wrote:I just watched the end of Ws/Thunder. What a damn shame we didn't give iHart the 3rd year.
Again, I wouldn't be surprised if it was his call and he bet on himself.
I'd thought we'd offered iHart our max under the current CBA, and OKC just basically doubled that because they could?
If we could have offered more but didn't, and that was the reason iHart is not here...then yeah, that really, really sucks....
I'm talking about the summer of 22? when we originally signed him. We signed him to a 2 year deal instead of a 3 year which put us in the predicament we found last summer. By that point there was nothing we could do. I do believe we offered him our max.
At the time, I was critical that we didn't get full Bird rights by offering him a 3 year but if he was betting on himself that ball may never have been in our court.
