[Camelo Thread] - Update: He's Pushing for NYK! Part 5

[AllanHoustonFan]

Im not doubting wojina's reporting


melo gave nyk a chance, if donnie couldnt take it, melo is just gonna move on

If you believe the article then what the hell can Donnie do if they don't want any of our pieces?

[Pharmcat]

Im not doubting wojina's reporting


melo gave nyk a chance, if donnie couldnt take it, melo is just gonna move on

If you believe the article then what the hell can Donnie do if they don't want any of our pieces?

for starters offer fields

if they dont like the pieces, make it into a 3 way to get some they do

[nyknicks09]

Denver is bluffing. Is up to Melo to sign that extension. If he doesn't sign that extension, the Nets will not accept trade. Just stay put Donnie. Something better will come along. Just concentrate on getting a center before the trade deadline. I wonder if Toronto won't mind trading Bargs. We should push to get Bargs once Melo signs that extension to go to the Nets. We are over .500 and the Nets are not so no reason to beat out the Nets to get Melo. Just look at it this way, we are over .500 without LeBron, Wade, Bosh and J.Johnson. That's signs of good things to come. Walsh needs to shop Gallo, Chandler, Douglas and/or Turiaf. Lets see if we can get a legit big. I'm hoping we make a run at Bargs. He's not the biggest defensive big in the NBA but he does fit next to Amar'e and Chandler.

Gallo, AR and Curry for Bargs and Evans works for me. If we can convince the Raptors to add Calderon in exchange of Douglas and S.Williams than we should be all set for the playoffs and just worry about matching any offers for Chandler in the summer. This is assuming Melo goes to the Nets and signs that extension.

[Red Vines]

If this falls apart with the Nets you have to think the only realistic option left is the Knicks. But if the Nets can somehow get another All-Star caliber player, I think Melo might sign off on it.

[towelie]

From Newsday:

Still, as we've told you repeatedly, trading for Carmelo isn't something the Knicks control. Getting the Nuggets to engage in a real conversation is still the challenge. At this point, while Denver GM Masai Ujiri has talked with Walsh and just about everyone else in the Knicks front office, there has been zero traction. The feeling remains, as we wrote in August, that the Kroenke's have little interest in sending Carmelo to the Knicks, which, to them, would be viewed as a surrender. Especially when the Nets keep coming to the door with Derrick Favors and a bouquet of first round picks.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketbal ... 56280?qr=1

I think Hahn has the right handle on the situation. Melo won't be traded to NY unless Melo himself shuts down all of NJ's advances. As long as NJ feels they're still in it, and keeps offering packages to Denver, the Nuggets aren't going to listen to the Knicks.

[knicks9784]

If he goes to the Nets i'll laugh. We'll still be better than them. I dont buy it, he has to be smarter than that.

Maybe its a false report to try and get the Knicks to make a desperation offer so that Denver can get the most from NY in a bad situation for them.

man this ain't no false report. Pharmcat is right. Melo wants his money, location be damned. Just get it over with. Donnie is doing the right thing not gutting the team for this selfish asshat. He can be the best player on a non-playoff team for the next 3 years while playing next to a soft overhyped Center. Congrats, Melo.

Wojina said no deal is imminent so chill. Carmelo also said he is like Lebron and just wants to win.

exactly, you cant pick and choose points of the article to believe. anyway this is the same thing this clown did last time when he proved that he has no sources or inside info with theses dealings. wake me up when something happens.

[Jmonty580]

From Newsday:

Still, as we've told you repeatedly, trading for Carmelo isn't something the Knicks control. Getting the Nuggets to engage in a real conversation is still the challenge. At this point, while Denver GM Masai Ujiri has talked with Walsh and just about everyone else in the Knicks front office, there has been zero traction. The feeling remains, as we wrote in August, that the Kroenke's have little interest in sending Carmelo to the Knicks, which, to them, would be viewed as a surrender. Especially when the Nets keep coming to the door with Derrick Favors and a bouquet of first round picks.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketbal ... 56280?qr=1

I think Hahn has the right handle on the situation. Melo won't be traded to NY unless Melo himself shuts down all of NJ's advances. As long as NJ feels they're still in it, and keeps offering packages to Denver, the Nuggets aren't going to listen to the Knicks.

I get the feeling that he keeps shutting down the NJ talks, but they keep retooling and coming back and saying, what about this... what about this.. they probably said why wont you go to NJ, and he probably said I want to play with another star. So now they are probably working on getting another star in NJ to play with him. Perhaps he would go there if they can get someone else to go and play in NJ with him. If they give up all their assets on getting a star though, i dont see how Denver would accept a deal from the nets to get Melo over what the Knicks have to offer at that point.

[Lord Commander]

From Newsday:

Still, as we've told you repeatedly, trading for Carmelo isn't something the Knicks control. Getting the Nuggets to engage in a real conversation is still the challenge. At this point, while Denver GM Masai Ujiri has talked with Walsh and just about everyone else in the Knicks front office, there has been zero traction. The feeling remains, as we wrote in August, that the Kroenke's have little interest in sending Carmelo to the Knicks, which, to them, would be viewed as a surrender. Especially when the Nets keep coming to the door with Derrick Favors and a bouquet of first round picks.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketbal ... 56280?qr=1

I think Hahn has the right handle on the situation. Melo won't be traded to NY unless Melo himself shuts down all of NJ's advances. As long as NJ feels they're still in it, and keeps offering packages to Denver, the Nuggets aren't going to listen to the Knicks.

When push comes to shove (Melo is told that a deal is in place with Jersey), Melo with say that he's not signing in NJ. Give the guy some credit--he'd have to certifiable to want to play for Jersey/Brooklyn.

[Knicksfan20]

Im not doubting wojina's reporting


melo gave nyk a chance, if donnie couldnt take it, melo is just gonna move on

If you believe the article then what the hell can Donnie do if they don't want any of our pieces?

for starters offer fields

if they dont like the pieces, make it into a 3 way to get some they do

Denver is bluffing. Its obvious. Melo does not want NJ, Remember this video?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDw48rY_nW8[/youtube]

Plus...Him and Amare are friends and what Legit Star can NJ realistically get this year thats on the same level as STAT? Who would seriously pick the struggling Nets over the on the rise NY Knicks? Thats crazy talk.

From Newsday:

Still, as we've told you repeatedly, trading for Carmelo isn't something the Knicks control. Getting the Nuggets to engage in a real conversation is still the challenge. At this point, while Denver GM Masai Ujiri has talked with Walsh and just about everyone else in the Knicks front office, there has been zero traction. The feeling remains, as we wrote in August, that the Kroenke's have little interest in sending Carmelo to the Knicks, which, to them, would be viewed as a surrender. Especially when the Nets keep coming to the door with Derrick Favors and a bouquet of first round picks.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketbal ... 56280?qr=1

I think Hahn has the right handle on the situation. Melo won't be traded to NY unless Melo himself shuts down all of NJ's advances. As long as NJ feels they're still in it, and keeps offering packages to Denver, the Nuggets aren't going to listen to the Knicks.

That video applys to you as well. Its clear Melo doesn't want to go to NJ and he even came out and said to trade him to NY after the DEN game.

The reason why there hasn' been a trade yet is because Walsh isn't a dumbass. He knows he can just sign Melo in the offseason. Denver doesnt like anything we have because Walsh has probably low balled them the entire time.

[nyknicks09]

From Newsday:

Still, as we've told you repeatedly, trading for Carmelo isn't something the Knicks control. Getting the Nuggets to engage in a real conversation is still the challenge. At this point, while Denver GM Masai Ujiri has talked with Walsh and just about everyone else in the Knicks front office, there has been zero traction. The feeling remains, as we wrote in August, that the Kroenke's have little interest in sending Carmelo to the Knicks, which, to them, would be viewed as a surrender. Especially when the Nets keep coming to the door with Derrick Favors and a bouquet of first round picks.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketbal ... 56280?qr=1

I think Hahn has the right handle on the situation. Melo won't be traded to NY unless Melo himself shuts down all of NJ's advances. As long as NJ feels they're still in it, and keeps offering packages to Denver, the Nuggets aren't going to listen to the Knicks.

If Melo doesn't sign that extension than Denver is going to learn the hard way and they could end up like Cleveland. Is Melo desperate to get traded? I don't think he is. I think that he is more worry about the lockout but he knows the money will be there for him. I don't see Melo signing that extension. He is better off signing with the Knicks during the summer. Is a gamble but we all know we could go a different direction if Melo doesn't sign with us or gets traded to us. We have a good young core and we need a big who can shoot the ball.

[BBALLER4FR]

From Newsday:

Still, as we've told you repeatedly, trading for Carmelo isn't something the Knicks control. Getting the Nuggets to engage in a real conversation is still the challenge. At this point, while Denver GM Masai Ujiri has talked with Walsh and just about everyone else in the Knicks front office, there has been zero traction. The feeling remains, as we wrote in August, that the Kroenke's have little interest in sending Carmelo to the Knicks, which, to them, would be viewed as a surrender. Especially when the Nets keep coming to the door with Derrick Favors and a bouquet of first round picks.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketbal ... 56280?qr=1

I think Hahn has the right handle on the situation. Melo won't be traded to NY unless Melo himself shuts down all of NJ's advances. As long as NJ feels they're still in it, and keeps offering packages to Denver, the Nuggets aren't going to listen to the Knicks.

Yeah but I can't see Melo coming out and shutting down the Nets talk. It would only piss management off to the point of letting Melo play out the season. Just as Hahn stated Ujiri/Kroenke have no power in where Melo will extend (that's why they seem to be trying to drive up the rental rate) but they do have control of what kind of deal Melo will see with his new team if he leaves. I think Melo would deal with that but he'd prefer his 6th year even if it means letting the kabuki play out.

[god shammgod]

look if you take woz's report and interpret it, it means melo already told the nets he didn't want to play there because of the surrounding pieces. so the question is what could they get to significantly upgrade that ? there's using all of their assets just for him.

[AllanHoustonFan]

look if you take woz's report and interpret it, it means melo already told the nets he didn't want to play there because of the surrounding pieces. so the question is what could they get to significantly upgrade that ? there's using all of their assets just for him.

+1

[Jmonty580]

look if you take woz's report and interpret it, it means melo already told the nets he didn't want to play there because of the surrounding pieces. so the question is what could they get to significantly upgrade that ? there's using all of their assets just for him.

Exactly. How do they bring Melo in and someone that is more appealing to melo to play with than Amare (or just as appealing). They dont have enough peices to do both. And who is that other player anyways? Are they going to trade for Chris Pual or something? Before he agreed to go to NJ and eventually sign a contract extension with them himself, wouldnt he want to know that Melo was coming first too?

[towelie]

That video applys to you as well. Its clear Melo doesn't want to go to NJ and he even came out and said to trade him to NY after the DEN game.

The reason why there hasn' been a trade yet is because Walsh isn't a dumbass. He knows he can just sign Melo in the offseason. Denver doesnt like anything we have because Walsh has probably low balled them the entire time.

No sh*t Sherlock. We all know Melo doesn't want to play for NJ.

The point was, the fact that NJ still even thinks they have a shot at Melo means that Melo hasn't flat out shut down any of NJ's hopes of acquiring him. He needs to stop leading them on. Melo just needs to affirmatively let the Nuggets' and Nets' management know that he ain't signing an extension with NJ, or these rumors will keep surfacing and a potential NY trade will always be on hold until the Nets' deal is pulled from the table.

[K_ick_God]

Surprise surprise, Wojina thinks Melo will go to the Nyets and he's the only one reporting it. Fanhouse guy came out with another source saying Melo will not got to the Nets.

[ctorres]

So when will it be time to offer Gallinari, Chandler, Randolph, and Fields for Melo? Since we're soooooo desperate, right?

[seren]

look if you take woz's report and interpret it, it means melo already told the nets he didn't want to play there because of the surrounding pieces. so the question is what could they get to significantly upgrade that ? there's using all of their assets just for him.

Exactly. How do they bring Melo in and someone that is more appealing to melo to play with than Amare (or just as appealing). They dont have enough peices to do both. And who is that other player anyways? Are they going to trade for Chris Pual or something? Before he agreed to go to NJ and eventually sign a contract extension with them himself, wouldnt he want to know that Melo was coming first too?

Technically, CP3 does not have to sign a extension to make him attractive. He has two more seasons before he becomes FA. Having said that, I don't see the league orchestrating such a blatant overhaul. CP3 won't be traded until they find a buyer for the Hornets.

[god shammgod]

if it was that easy to upgrade the talent on their team, why wouldn't the nets do it whether they got melo or not ? why is every team not doing it ?

[towelie]

look if you take woz's report and interpret it, it means melo already told the nets he didn't want to play there because of the surrounding pieces. so the question is what could they get to significantly upgrade that ? there's using all of their assets just for him.

Nothing really. They could try and upgrade Devin Harris for something better, but I don't think he can fetch anyone better. Plus that would leave them with a hole at PG.