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KnicksGod wrote:god shammgod wrote:
you know how drunk you have to be to sing while being arrested
lol. It kind of replaces the need for a breathalyzer. Probably a spot for it in the police's criminal complaint form. Is the suspect singing during processing? If yes proceed to Section D.
ptsuperfly wrote:makeitstop wrote:It's pretty insane, TBH.
I believe anyone looking that hard for villains should be looking first at Morey and Lin's agent. News reports are saying the Lin was shocked that the Knicks are considering another direction. But Morey did the Knicks dirty, and Lin's agent - while I'm sure he was thinking he was doing the right thing - did his client dirty by accepting that offer sheet that kills the Knicks.
Perception is reality. People are taking a couple of quotes by Melo and building this construct where Melo hates Lin, is jealous of the deal he may get, is thinking of himself before the team.
Is it not also fair game, by those rules, to assume that Lin has zero loyalty to the Knicks and wants that extra few million, no matter what that does to whatever team he gets it from?
Both scenarios are equally crazy for my money. But if you're going to take Melo's quotes (and the guy did say he wanted Lin back, and nobody knows what's going on behind the scenes here) and present them as 'evidence' that Melo is a petty, jealous person, you also have to allow that if you look at Lin's actions, he's being greedy and really doesn't care about the Knicks.
I'm not buying into either theory. But if you allow for one, you gotta allow for the other.
You're blaming Lin for trying to earn an extra 10 million dollars? WTF?
KnicksGod wrote:Kidd almost killed himself.
He doesn't sound like the happiest and most content guy alive.
Fury wrote:So ignore it,
Knicks_Fan2 wrote:Fury wrote:So ignore it,
Probably best for me to tell you that you're inflated sense of importance as a fan of this team is not good for you instead of ignoring these posts.
Knicks80_20 wrote:None of this feels right. I don't think they were planning on signing Lin to begin with. First, they don't offer him an offer sheet, when other RFA's like Asik received their own preliminary offers from their teams. Second, Dolan invites Felton to his 4th of July BBQ where he announces that he'll be with the Knicks the following season. Looks like they weren't high on Lin to begin with and all this controversy has been premeditated by the organization.
SmooveMelo wrote:I couldn't resist First Take is too funny right now. No one is bringing up Melo as a problem, everyone is saying Dolan is acting on emotion.
Knicks_Fan2 wrote:Fury wrote:So ignore it,
Probably best for me to tell you that you're inflated sense of importance as a fan of this team is not good for you instead of ignoring these posts.
ptsuperfly wrote:KnicksGod wrote:Truth2Power wrote:if chris paul has a player option after this season that may be enuf to not sign lin and keep things cheap. knicks may feel that only nash or paul give them a real shot at it all.
You're not getting Chris Paul.
Not unless you match Lin, then trade him, probably Shumpert, and picks... that's if he wants out of LA.
GONYK wrote:Knicks80_20 wrote:None of this feels right. I don't think they were planning on signing Lin to begin with. First, they don't offer him an offer sheet, when other RFA's like Asik received their own preliminary offers from their teams. Second, Dolan invites Felton to his 4th of July BBQ where he announces that he'll be with the Knicks the following season. Looks like they weren't high on Lin to begin with and all this controversy has been premeditated by the organization.
Who said we never offered him anything? That's not a formal process. All we know is Lin never accepted anything.
KnicksGod wrote:Melo officially becomes Marbury to me the moment Lin goes to Houston.
Not a drop better -- in fact, much worse. Marbury never let a top young player leave and essentially endorsed his exit.
echelonNYK wrote:Still no word? This franchise is run by idiots. The longer i wait the more pissed off i'm going to be when they don't match. Just end it now.
makeitstop wrote:ptsuperfly wrote:makeitstop wrote:It's pretty insane, TBH.
I believe anyone looking that hard for villains should be looking first at Morey and Lin's agent. News reports are saying the Lin was shocked that the Knicks are considering another direction. But Morey did the Knicks dirty, and Lin's agent - while I'm sure he was thinking he was doing the right thing - did his client dirty by accepting that offer sheet that kills the Knicks.
Perception is reality. People are taking a couple of quotes by Melo and building this construct where Melo hates Lin, is jealous of the deal he may get, is thinking of himself before the team.
Is it not also fair game, by those rules, to assume that Lin has zero loyalty to the Knicks and wants that extra few million, no matter what that does to whatever team he gets it from?
Both scenarios are equally crazy for my money. But if you're going to take Melo's quotes (and the guy did say he wanted Lin back, and nobody knows what's going on behind the scenes here) and present them as 'evidence' that Melo is a petty, jealous person, you also have to allow that if you look at Lin's actions, he's being greedy and really doesn't care about the Knicks.
I'm not buying into either theory. But if you allow for one, you gotta allow for the other.
You're blaming Lin for trying to earn an extra 10 million dollars? WTF?
Read the red part again.
I'm talking about agendas here. People who don't like Melo are building this scenario where Melo is jealous, bitter, petty, and may have keyed Lin's Volvo in the training center parking lot.
It is stupid.
Others are claiming that Lin is greedy, over-rated, about to be overpaid, and kills puppies and eats them while fooling the world that he's a good Christian.
Equally stupid.
And both sides are flying off the handle, working with information supplied by people with agendas, spoonfed by the media to guarantee peak outrage - over an ending to this story that hasn't happened yet.
That's probably the stupid cherry on top of this whole sundae of stupid. For all anyone here knows, the Knicks still fully intend to match and they're making Morey sweat over the fact that he may have just killed any chance the Rox might have had at Dwight Howard.
Nobody knows, but everybody 'knows what's going on.' I'll wait and see. That's the difference between me and the army of drama that has sprung up here this weekend.
Falstaffxx wrote:GONYK wrote:Knicks80_20 wrote:None of this feels right. I don't think they were planning on signing Lin to begin with. First, they don't offer him an offer sheet, when other RFA's like Asik received their own preliminary offers from their teams. Second, Dolan invites Felton to his 4th of July BBQ where he announces that he'll be with the Knicks the following season. Looks like they weren't high on Lin to begin with and all this controversy has been premeditated by the organization.
Who said we never offered him anything? That's not a formal process. All we know is Lin never accepted anything.
Because us offering Lin a 4 year $24 million contract would be the one offseason move that was kept completely secret...