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OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2

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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1401 » by asuran » Tue Sep 1, 2015 10:25 pm

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kingquan316 wrote:I don't even know if the authority are heels anymore. They are aligned with Rollins, yet they sometimes do face like decisions, like how Steph agreed to Cena's rematch, or before when Triple H sent Brock against Rollins.


Unpredictability! It's a great thing! Enjoy it. Every fan clamors for it, then when they can't predict how a storyline will go they get mad lol.

Heel or face. It has always been what's best for business.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1402 » by kingquan316 » Tue Sep 1, 2015 11:32 pm

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kingquan316 wrote:I don't even know if the authority are heels anymore. They are aligned with Rollins, yet they sometimes do face like decisions, like how Steph agreed to Cena's rematch, or before when Triple H sent Brock against Rollins.


Unpredictability! It's a great thing! Enjoy it. Every fan clamors for it, then when they can't predict how a storyline will go they get mad lol.


I don't mind unpredictable, as long as it makes sense. I've been enjoying the product lately, but this authority thing has run it's course to me, because the characters of triple h and steph are not written well. How can steph put over the divas revolution while she is suppose to be a heel? Last week they presented the trophy to Rollins and talked like heels putting over their guy, who is the biggest heel in the company, yet this week Steph agreed to Cena's rematch even though the Authority doesn't like Cena. At least make Cena earn the rematch by putting him in a match, something more heelish. I know that this is going to lead to a Rollins vs Triple h match, and I hope that positioned the authority clearly on one side or the other in the face/heel position. If it was me, I would just scrap those two altogether and make them come back on special occasions.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1403 » by Fury » Tue Sep 1, 2015 11:39 pm

It's not about unpredictability, but the Authority are booked like they're above everyone else. Infallible. Yesterday how many times did they put Triple H over for no reason? While at the same time **** on Seth? Seth is 30 times the wrestler Triple H ever was and they put over Triple H like he's Hulk Hogan. Why the hell would Sting care if Seth is as good as Triple H? It makes no sense.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1404 » by kingquan316 » Tue Sep 1, 2015 11:48 pm

Fury wrote:It's not about unpredictability, but the Authority are booked like they're above everyone else. Infallible. Yesterday how many times did they put Triple H over for no reason? While at the same time **** on Seth? Seth is 30 times the wrestler Triple H ever was and they put over Triple H like he's Hulk Hogan. Why the hell would Sting care if Seth is as good as Triple H? It makes no sense.


Instead of hyping the first WWE title match for Sting (which if u are a long term wrestling fan, is a HUGE deal), they are hyping up a future match with Triple H and Rollins. Which makes the Sting match at NOC feel insignificant. It's not good writing at all. Also imo, Trips can't hold Sting's jock strap. If we are talking about wrestling history, Sting is more revered and popular in the wrestling community than Triple h. 1996-1997, Sting was the most popular wrestler, and carried WCW with the NWO, and almost put Vince out of business. There was no need for Sting to start sucking up to Triple H, the promo should have been mainly about Sting wanting to get that last title that has eluded him his whole career. Which he did say, but that should have been the main focus, not half of it about being Triple H.

The Authority are not written well, because it should be about the wrestlers, and all of the wrestlers feel beneath them, and no one ever fights back against them, or put them in their place. Back in 99, Austin constantly put Vince in his place, and vice versa, and that made a dynamic and compelling storyline and television. What makes the Authority compelling, when almost every week they start raw with a long promo, and put wrestlers in their place and saying "best for business" and yet they rarely ever get one up'd by a wrestler. Last week was a good start with Sting ruining their "chosen one" statue presentation. But then they ruined it by having Sting praise Triple h, I'm like wtf.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1405 » by wolfv » Wed Sep 2, 2015 12:28 am

The way Sting has been treated just reeks of Vince and his pathetic hatred of anything related to WCW. You bring in a wrestling legend, a guy WWE fans have wanted to see since 2001 and make him lose? It made no sense. Sting needed that win; HHH did not. And if HHH had lost he would have gained so much respect from fans/wrestlers for doing the right thing. It would have made Sting look legit, and then you'd look to build up the feud everyone wanted to see-- Taker vs Sting

Now Sting HAS to win his next match or he'll look like a joke, but if it's against Seth it will make Seth look weak. WWE f***** up
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1406 » by DowNY » Wed Sep 2, 2015 1:04 am

Am I the only 1 that sees a Floyd - Ronda meet up happening in WWE?
All this back & forth between them. WWE would love to take advantage of the momentum. Plus WWE & ESPN been working together recently. More than usual. Triple H real cool with Floyd & both HHH & Steph cool with Ronda. I see something happening next year at Summerslam or Wrestlemania 33 or something.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1407 » by DowNY » Wed Sep 2, 2015 1:07 am

I hope there's a segment where Seth comes to the ring dressed like Sting with the face paint. He resembles a young Sting. Sting Rollins. Lol
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1408 » by wolfv » Wed Sep 2, 2015 3:39 am

DowNY wrote:Am I the only 1 that sees a Floyd - Ronda meet up happening in WWE?
All this back & forth between them. WWE would love to take advantage of the momentum. Plus WWE & ESPN been working together recently. More than usual. Triple H real cool with Floyd & both HHH & Steph cool with Ronda. I see something happening next year at Summerslam or Wrestlemania 33 or something.


That's actually really interesting. And it's really the only environment for something physical to happen between the two
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1409 » by kingquan316 » Wed Sep 2, 2015 3:50 am

DowNY wrote:Am I the only 1 that sees a Floyd - Ronda meet up happening in WWE?
All this back & forth between them. WWE would love to take advantage of the momentum. Plus WWE & ESPN been working together recently. More than usual. Triple H real cool with Floyd & both HHH & Steph cool with Ronda. I see something happening next year at Summerslam or Wrestlemania 33 or something.


It would be interesting, but at the same time Ronda would be disappointing her fans if she agreed to do this match with Floyd. Her fans know this isn't a real fight if it happens in wwe, and so she would be agreeing to this "staged" fight with Floyd for a pay day. A lot of her fans like that she stood up to Floyd and how she made that joke about how he feels about getting beat by a female. That was a shot at Floyd for his domestic abuse. Now if she agreed to do this match, that makes it seem like she cool with Floyd now. She's one of the most popular female athletes in sports right now, and she would sacrifice her reputation, especially to the female demographic, to do this choreographed fight against someone that is unpopular in the female audience as Floyd is. I don't see it happening, because I think Ronda truly despises Floyd and his history of women abuse, and would only do it if it was a legitimate real fight against him.

Now if WWE let them do a real fight, then u might have something going. Yet a lot of people won't believe it is real because it is under the WWE name, even if it was legitimate.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1410 » by Heat3 » Wed Sep 2, 2015 4:27 am

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wolfv wrote:The way Sting has been treated just reeks of Vince and his pathetic hatred of anything related to WCW. You bring in a wrestling legend, a guy WWE fans have wanted to see since 2001 and make him lose? It made no sense. Sting needed that win; HHH did not. And if HHH had lost he would have gained so much respect from fans/wrestlers for doing the right thing. It would have made Sting look legit, and then you'd look to build up the feud everyone wanted to see-- Taker vs Sting

Now Sting HAS to win his next match or he'll look like a joke, but if it's against Seth it will make Seth look weak. WWE f***** up


Come on. I would have liked Sting to win at wrestlemania, but read what you just wrote. Sting needed a win? It would have made him look legit? It's STING! He doesn't need a damn thing. He IS legit because he's Sting. End of story.

Now I think he'll win at night of champions.I didn't care for the slobbering he was doing on HHH but I can buy it from an angle where he's trying to plant seeds of division between Rollins and the authority. You already saw it happening later on Raw.

I see Cena getting his belt back in a grueling match with Rollins, then Seth has to fight again against Sting only to drop that belt too. Sting gets the belt. Rollins doesn't look too weak cause he fought two matches. Then he blames the authority, ditches them and teams up with the Shield again since they seem to need some help against that monster hillbilly. Sting then holds the belt until Wrestlemania and the Undertaker.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1411 » by kingquan316 » Wed Sep 2, 2015 5:26 am

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wolfv wrote:The way Sting has been treated just reeks of Vince and his pathetic hatred of anything related to WCW. You bring in a wrestling legend, a guy WWE fans have wanted to see since 2001 and make him lose? It made no sense. Sting needed that win; HHH did not. And if HHH had lost he would have gained so much respect from fans/wrestlers for doing the right thing. It would have made Sting look legit, and then you'd look to build up the feud everyone wanted to see-- Taker vs Sting

Now Sting HAS to win his next match or he'll look like a joke, but if it's against Seth it will make Seth look weak. WWE f***** up


Come on. I would have liked Sting to win at wrestlemania, but read what you just wrote. Sting needed a win? It would have made him look legit? It's STING! He doesn't need a damn thing. He IS legit because he's Sting. End of story.

Now I think he'll win at night of champions.I didn't care for the slobbering he was doing on HHH but I can buy it from an angle where he's trying to plant seeds of division between Rollins and the authority. You already saw it happening later on Raw.

I see Cena getting his belt back in a grueling match with Rollins, then Seth has to fight again against Sting only to drop that belt too. Sting gets the belt. Rollins doesn't look too weak cause he fought two matches. Then he blames the authority, ditches them and teams up with the Shield again since they seem to need some help against that monster hillbilly. Sting then holds the belt until Wrestlemania and the Undertaker.


No way he keeps that belt til Mania if he wins. What does that say about the state of the roster that two 50 year old wrestlers is main eventing at mania with the wwe title. Develop the new young guys, sting and taker don't need the title. Brock is the only part timer i would let main event mania, cause he has that it factor and is still relatively young in wrestling age. Plus he still seems fresh cause he took that long sabbatical from wwe.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1412 » by BeagleBoss » Wed Sep 2, 2015 1:00 pm

They should let Sting win and have Rollins win it back at Survivor Series or even the next night on Raw. Have HHH cost Rollins the title, thus setting up their feud.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1413 » by Polk377 » Wed Sep 2, 2015 2:00 pm

asuran wrote:
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kingquan316 wrote:I don't even know if the authority are heels anymore. They are aligned with Rollins, yet they sometimes do face like decisions, like how Steph agreed to Cena's rematch, or before when Triple H sent Brock against Rollins.


Unpredictability! It's a great thing! Enjoy it. Every fan clamors for it, then when they can't predict how a storyline will go they get mad lol.

Heel or face. It has always been what's best for business.
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Exactly. They can play both sides because at the end of the day they only care about "whats best for business". Cena was right that they will ride Rollins until they find someone else they can make money on. Thats how the authority works as a gimmick.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1414 » by Juco24 » Wed Sep 2, 2015 4:05 pm

Who wouldn't want to see a Rollins vs Triple H @ the next WrestleMania?
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1415 » by Bill Pidto » Wed Sep 2, 2015 5:26 pm

Juco24 wrote:Who wouldn't want to see a Rollins vs Triple H @ the next WrestleMania?


I'm sure it would be a damn good match, but there's other matches with both of those guys that I'd rather see.

Shield triple threat for the title would be one of them. HHH vs Rock or Austin being another. The Shield thing probably doesn't have a great chance of happening this year though, if ever. I mean, I'm sure there will be more than one triple threat between the 3 of them before their runs are over. But for the WWE championship at Mania? Let's hope WWE sees money in that, cuz I think it would be awesome, especially if there's some type of twist in the storyline during the match, like a double turn with Roman and Seth.

Don't get me started..
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1416 » by kingquan316 » Wed Sep 2, 2015 8:35 pm

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Juco24 wrote:Who wouldn't want to see a Rollins vs Triple H @ the next WrestleMania?


I'm sure it would be a damn good match, but there's other matches with both of those guys that I'd rather see.

Shield triple threat for the title would be one of them. HHH vs Rock or Austin being another. The Shield thing probably doesn't have a great chance of happening this year though, if ever. I mean, I'm sure there will be more than one triple threat between the 3 of them before their runs are over. But for the WWE championship at Mania? Let's hope WWE sees money in that, cuz I think it would be awesome, especially if there's some type of twist in the storyline during the match, like a double turn with Roman and Seth.

Don't get me started..


I'll get started, I love fantasy booking.

Yea I would do a triple threat shield title match at mania. I would have Rollins break out of the authority and beat triple h before then. Have Rollins turn face. U can have the authority saying that they have aligned with Sheamus, and he will cash in at Mania regardless of who wins the Shield triple threat. Trips on the last raw before Mania will say that their "guy" will win the title at the end of Mania as a warning to all 3 Shield wrestlers. Similar to how Rollins cashed in at Mania 31.

Match at mania is a long 30 minute fight, with all 3 down, then Sheamus comes down with the Authority and cashes it in to make it a fatal four way. He takes out Rollins and Ambrose, and then sets up Reigns for a brogue kick. But out of nowhere Trips clocks Sheamus with a chair (no dq for fatal four way). He looks at Reigns and smiles, and Reigns looks back with a cold blank stare. Then Reigns grabs the chair from Trips, and he hits Ambrose as he comes in to the ring. Then he hits Rollins with a spear for the win. The Authroity gives the title to Reigns, and they embrace with a hug. Their "guy" ends up winning the title at the end of Mania like they said earlier. You can even have the Rock come out after beating Trips earlier in the night at Mania, looking in disbelief as his cousin aligned himself with the man he just beaten. Trips can smile back at him, and say that the authority always wins. That can set up a future match between Reigns and Rock if they wanted too. That's a scenario that seems interesting to me at least.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1417 » by JXL » Wed Sep 2, 2015 8:46 pm

Sting and Undertaker should happen for WM next year. That storyline can start at Survivor Series.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1418 » by DASMACKDOWN » Thu Sep 3, 2015 12:31 pm

I know no one cares, but I get so pissed at how they have handled the Divas Title.

Did they hate AJ Lee so much, that they have to purposely give the title to Nicki Bella to hold it the longest ever? I mean you if you want fans to really respect the divas division, why would they do something like that? It actually really irritated me when they first started announcing that she has had the title so and so days, because I knew it was because they wanted to totally remove AJ Lee.

Longest reign should be to someone who is actually significant or important to that era etc etc. When you look back at this 10 years from now and say,,,WHAT? Nikki Bella held the title the longest? Will look like an absolute joke. Which is why no one can take the divas seriously.
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Post#1419 » by asuran » Thu Sep 3, 2015 4:36 pm

DASMACKDOWN wrote:I know no one cares, but I get so pissed at how they have handled the Divas Title.

Did they hate AJ Lee so much, that they have to purposely give the title to Nicki Bella to hold it the longest ever? I mean you if you want fans to really respect the divas division, why would they do something like that? It actually really irritated me when they first started announcing that she has had the title so and so days, because I knew it was because they wanted to totally remove AJ Lee.

Longest reign should be to someone who is actually significant or important to that era etc etc. When you look back at this 10 years from now and say,,,WHAT? Nikki Bella held the title the longest? Will look like an absolute joke. Which is why no one can take the divas seriously.

:pray: I hope she doesn't hold it til NOC.
Maybe they are setting her up for a big fail, like somehow losing it on Raw the coming week thru some plot twist. Unlikely but I am so hopeful for it.

It's terrible to see Nikki Bella's name at the top of the list as Divas Champion.
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Re: OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2 

Post#1420 » by Bill Pidto » Thu Sep 3, 2015 5:20 pm

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DASMACKDOWN wrote:I know no one cares, but I get so pissed at how they have handled the Divas Title.

Did they hate AJ Lee so much, that they have to purposely give the title to Nicki Bella to hold it the longest ever? I mean you if you want fans to really respect the divas division, why would they do something like that? It actually really irritated me when they first started announcing that she has had the title so and so days, because I knew it was because they wanted to totally remove AJ Lee.

Longest reign should be to someone who is actually significant or important to that era etc etc. When you look back at this 10 years from now and say,,,WHAT? Nikki Bella held the title the longest? Will look like an absolute joke. Which is why no one can take the divas seriously.

:pray: I hope she doesn't hold it til NOC.
Maybe they are setting her up for a big fail, like somehow losing it on Raw the coming week thru some plot twist. Unlikely but I am so hopeful for it.

It's terrible to see Nikki Bella's name at the top of the list as Divas Champion.


:lol: You guys are taking this way too seriously. Since when is the Divas division and the record for longest reign as Divas champ so important to people? I mean.. there wasn't even a Divas division/belt until about 7 years ago. There was a women's title that was barely competed over. Never until now has there even been such a large crop of talented female wrestlers in WWE. So tell me- she's sitting atop a list over what legendary performers? I know there are some on that list, trust me. But were there enough in the history of WWE to make this record so saught after?

Eventually, all the new talent coming from NXT will take over (no pun intended), and women's wrestling will get better and better and the mainstream audience will actually care. Hopefully. But until then, AJ's record doesn't mean anything to me because with the exception of a few gems, the Divas division has always been crap and the belt is anything but prestigious IMO. Especially being called the "Divas Champsionship".

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