Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo

[HarthorneWingo]

That actually is true.

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Better passer but decision maker?

Now if we were to COMBINE their best attributes... THAT player... would be decent. You know. Not the best. But pretty pretty good.

Frank is actually known for making some really dumb/bad decisions. From careless passes to passing up good shots, he's had a lot of "wtf" moments throughout his career. Really couldn't say he's a better decision making than DSJ.

It's just a lack of confidence. That's all. The talent is there.

[moocow007]

As far as the 55th pick? Im looking for someone that shows the mindset and temperament to be able to find themselves a role in the NBA or that has the type of upside and toolset to fit in the NBA.

I'm not interested in solid college players that did well in the college game but that doesn't have the extra gear to will themselves into an NBA rotation of that doesn't have the physical tools or upside to be exveptional.

So like I briefly mentioned a few days ago, here's 2 of the 4 guys I'd focus on.

MFIONDU KABENGELE

The 6'10" nephew of Dikembe Mutombo is a ball of fire as a projected NBA PF. Every time I've watched FSU play it seems like Kabengele is in the middle of every play. He's aggressive, he gets himself in the mix if things, he's not afraid of contact, he shoots 3's and is an aggressive finisher on offense and fights defensively. His aggressiveness maxizes his physical tools (solid athleticism and very good length). Just listen to what dome of the top opposing head coaches have said about Kabengele.

Watch on YouTube

JALEN MCDANIELS

If McDaniels weighed 10-15 more pounds he could be in the lottery discussion. McDaniel is super skinny and that will be his biggest challenge when it comes to the NBA but he shows a fearlessness that guys his frame tend to not. Can handle the ball, rebound (exceptional rebounder considering he weighs maybe 200lbs dripping wet), has the ability to create his is shot, excellent feel for the passing game and is an elite finisher. At 6'10" he's projected as a guy that can play both the guard and forward positions. Again very aggressive player that has the potential to be an offensive match nightmare and top tier defender. His shooting while not great shows marked improvement between his freshman and sophomore seasons.

Watch on YouTube

I want guys that shows that type of fearlessness, confidence and aggressiveness that successful 2nd rounders have to have.

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What are you doing? Making up for lost time? You've come back a posting beast on steroids. At this rate, you'll pass Fred Flintstone (shammgod) for the most number of total posts by the end of the year.

I might be. All that pent up basketball thoughts that I havent been able to express for almost a year and change lol. Shamgod going down.

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[Capn'O]

That actually is true.

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Better passer but decision maker?

Now if we were to COMBINE their best attributes... THAT player... would be decent. You know. Not the best. But pretty pretty good.

Honestly? Yeah I do think Smith Jr is a better decision maker with the ball. Smith is more instinctive than Frank and IMO you need your PG to be that. Doesn't mean DSJ is ideal but he is better making natural decisions with the ball in his hands. I get that DSJ seems to be an arrogant selfish unbridled guy but that doesn't mean he isn't the better basketball player. I think if you combine Frank's size and defensive bent with everything ball based from Smith is what would create the best 'combined' player.

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IMO Frank has better discretion but just lacks the aggression/confidence and that holds back his decision making a lot. The few times when he did play unbridled the ball moved and got to the right places but how the hell do you tap that consistently is the question and there may not be an answer. I've rarely been more frustrated with a player. He'll move forward and then fall back three steps.

I always say that SGA is what Frank SHOULD be but given that he isn't... yes, DSJ is clearly better at this time.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

Eric Paschall (older but rangy tweener beast; didn’t really improve this season but has a projectable role and game)

Iggy Brazdeikis (6 connection with RJ maybe provides some chemistry; had a good frosh season at Michigan)

Miye Oni (ivy leaguer athletic dynamo; ironically his IQ doesn’t stand out but is a plus athletic streaky scorer)

Tremont Waters (I could see him going early second but his size might make him slide; true point guard)

Chuma Okeke/Jarrey Foster (injury derailed but tangible pro skill sets and athleticism)

Q.Weatherspoon (do it all combo guard really put his name in the conversation over the course of the pre draft process)

Kenny Wooten (bouncy Jordan Bell type, no offense outside of dunks and put backs)

Anybhadee Buttaccoo (can contribute somehow)

[stuporman]

If the pelicans were really smart and wanted to be must see tv they’ll trade us AD for the 3rd pick and whoever draft RJ then send Holiday to Phoenix for the #6 (Cam), future draft picks, and maybe Jackson. Just start completely over.

DSJR
Barrett
Cam
Zion
Okafor I’m not giving up Mitch so they’ll have to find a center.

Duke Pelicans

That's one more. he's already there.

[moocow007]

Here's an interview Kabengele gave. Exceptionally bright and articulate. Helps give a good feel for what type of person he is.

Watch on YouTube

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[Worst_to_First]

Conley is good and all but $33 mil is a bit too much.

Suns would be foolish to bail the Grizzlies out of that contract while giving them the 6th pick in the process.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

Here's an interview Kabengele gave. Exceptionally bright and articulate. Helps give a good feel for what type of person he is.

Watch on YouTube

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Top 25 guy for sure.

[Worst_to_First]

The more I think about it the more I feel that the Grizzlies ultimately choose RJ over Ja.

I think Ja got a promise by Memphis, which is why he decided to have a minor procedure imo

Hmmm... the news of Memphis wanting to work out RJ came at the same time news on Ja’s minor injury popped up.

Athleticism is such an important aspect of Ja being #2 in this draft. Injury on the knee no matter how minor should be a cause of concern. If I remember correctly this was a reason for DSJ falling in his draft class. Luckily for the Mavs and for us now, DSJ’s became more explosive post ACL tear.

[blueNorange]

DSJ has yet to shown his max potential. He’s another piece we are sleeping on. Go watch watch some state highlights and chill.

College highlights?

Is he in this draft?

Just telling people to go remind themselves of what kind of prospect he is.

someone show this man hoodie’s jerome james mix!

[bleedblue3303]

As far as the 55th pick? Im looking for someone that shows the mindset and temperament to be able to find themselves a role in the NBA or that has the type of upside and toolset to fit in the NBA.

I'm not interested in solid college players that did well in the college game but that doesn't have the extra gear to will themselves into an NBA rotation of that doesn't have the physical tools or upside to be exveptional.

So like I briefly mentioned a few days ago, here's 2 of the 4 guys I'd focus on.

MFIONDU KABENGELE

The 6'10" nephew of Dikembe Mutombo is a ball of fire as a projected NBA PF. Every time I've watched FSU play it seems like Kabengele is in the middle of every play. He's aggressive, he gets himself in the mix if things, he's not afraid of contact, he shoots 3's and is an aggressive finisher on offense and fights defensively. His aggressiveness maxizes his physical tools (solid athleticism and very good length). Just listen to what dome of the top opposing head coaches have said about Kabengele.

Watch on YouTube

JALEN MCDANIELS

If McDaniels weighed 10-15 more pounds he could be in the lottery discussion. McDaniel is super skinny and that will be his biggest challenge when it comes to the NBA but he shows a fearlessness that guys his frame tend to not. Can handle the ball, rebound (exceptional rebounder considering he weighs maybe 200lbs dripping wet), has the ability to create his is shot, excellent feel for the passing game and is an elite finisher. At 6'10" he's projected as a guy that can play both the guard and forward positions. Again very aggressive player that has the potential to be an offensive match nightmare and top tier defender. His shooting while not great shows marked improvement between his freshman and sophomore seasons.

Watch on YouTube

I want guys that shows that type of fearlessness, confidence and aggressiveness that successful 2nd rounders have to have.

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What are you doing? Making up for lost time? You've come back a posting beast on steroids. At this rate, you'll pass Fred Flintstone (shammgod) for the most number of total posts by the end of the year.

I might be. All that pent up basketball thoughts that I havent been able to express for almost a year and change lol. Shamgod going down.

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you sold me on both of them. Lets go!

[HarthorneWingo]

As far as the 55th pick? Im looking for someone that shows the mindset and temperament to be able to find themselves a role in the NBA or that has the type of upside and toolset to fit in the NBA.

I'm not interested in solid college players that did well in the college game but that doesn't have the extra gear to will themselves into an NBA rotation of that doesn't have the physical tools or upside to be exveptional.

So like I briefly mentioned a few days ago, here's 2 of the 4 guys I'd focus on.

MFIONDU KABENGELE

The 6'10" nephew of Dikembe Mutombo is a ball of fire as a projected NBA PF. Every time I've watched FSU play it seems like Kabengele is in the middle of every play. He's aggressive, he gets himself in the mix if things, he's not afraid of contact, he shoots 3's and is an aggressive finisher on offense and fights defensively. His aggressiveness maxizes his physical tools (solid athleticism and very good length). Just listen to what dome of the top opposing head coaches have said about Kabengele.

Watch on YouTube

JALEN MCDANIELS

If McDaniels weighed 10-15 more pounds he could be in the lottery discussion. McDaniel is super skinny and that will be his biggest challenge when it comes to the NBA but he shows a fearlessness that guys his frame tend to not. Can handle the ball, rebound (exceptional rebounder considering he weighs maybe 200lbs dripping wet), has the ability to create his is shot, excellent feel for the passing game and is an elite finisher. At 6'10" he's projected as a guy that can play both the guard and forward positions. Again very aggressive player that has the potential to be an offensive match nightmare and top tier defender. His shooting while not great shows marked improvement between his freshman and sophomore seasons.

Watch on YouTube

I want guys that shows that type of fearlessness, confidence and aggressiveness that successful 2nd rounders have to have.

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What are you doing? Making up for lost time? You've come back a posting beast on steroids. At this rate, you'll pass Fred Flintstone (shammgod) for the most number of total posts by the end of the year.

I might be. All that pent up basketball thoughts that I havent been able to express for almost a year and change lol. Shamgod going down.

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It's like watching Mozart create a masterpiece.

[Zenzibar]

Better passer but decision maker?

Now if we were to COMBINE their best attributes... THAT player... would be decent. You know. Not the best. But pretty pretty good.

Honestly? Yeah I do think Smith Jr is a better decision maker with the ball. Smith is more instinctive than Frank and IMO you need your PG to be that. Doesn't mean DSJ is ideal but he is better making natural decisions with the ball in his hands. I get that DSJ seems to be an arrogant selfish unbridled guy but that doesn't mean he isn't the better basketball player. I think if you combine Frank's size and defensive bent with everything ball based from Smith is what would create the best 'combined' player.

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IMO Frank has better discretion but just lacks the aggression/confidence and that holds back his decision making a lot. The few times when he did play unbridled the ball moved and got to the right places but how the hell do you tap that consistently is the question and there may not be an answer. I've rarely been more frustrated with a player. He'll move forward and then fall back three steps.

I always say that SGA is what Frank SHOULD be but given that he isn't... yes, DSJ is clearly better at this time.

This is who Frank reminds me of and can project to once he matures. Iggy.

[F N 11]

Still got faith in my niqqa Frank fight me.

[Knicksfan1992]

Honestly? Yeah I do think Smith Jr is a better decision maker with the ball. Smith is more instinctive than Frank and IMO you need your PG to be that. Doesn't mean DSJ is ideal but he is better making natural decisions with the ball in his hands. I get that DSJ seems to be an arrogant selfish unbridled guy but that doesn't mean he isn't the better basketball player. I think if you combine Frank's size and defensive bent with everything ball based from Smith is what would create the best 'combined' player.

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IMO Frank has better discretion but just lacks the aggression/confidence and that holds back his decision making a lot. The few times when he did play unbridled the ball moved and got to the right places but how the hell do you tap that consistently is the question and there may not be an answer. I've rarely been more frustrated with a player. He'll move forward and then fall back three steps.

I always say that SGA is what Frank SHOULD be but given that he isn't... yes, DSJ is clearly better at this time.

This is who Frank reminds me of and can project to once he matures. Iggy.

Man people on here and in general underrate Iggy so much... Frank will never be prime Iggy... not even close truthfully

[blanko]

Im starting to feel that the pelz arent sold on rj barret and wants two lotter picks and that is why we hear this noise about us trading down.

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[GONYK]

IMO Frank has better discretion but just lacks the aggression/confidence and that holds back his decision making a lot. The few times when he did play unbridled the ball moved and got to the right places but how the hell do you tap that consistently is the question and there may not be an answer. I've rarely been more frustrated with a player. He'll move forward and then fall back three steps.

I always say that SGA is what Frank SHOULD be but given that he isn't... yes, DSJ is clearly better at this time.

This is who Frank reminds me of and can project to once he matures. Iggy.

Man people on here and in general underrate Iggy so much... Frank will never be prime Iggy... not even close truthfully

All around? No. Iggy was basically a poor man's Lebron in terms of stat stuffing and playmaking in his prime.

Defensively though, Frank has the potential to match.

[3toheadmelo]

The more I think about it the more I feel that the Grizzlies ultimately choose RJ over Ja.

I think Ja got a promise by Memphis, which is why he decided to have a minor procedure imo

Hmmm... the news of Memphis wanting to work out RJ came at the same time news on Ja’s minor injury popped up.

Athleticism is such an important aspect of Ja being #2 in this draft. Injury on the knee no matter how minor should be a cause of concern. If I remember correctly this was a reason for DSJ falling in his draft class. Luckily for the Mavs and for us now, DSJ’s became more explosive post ACL tear.

I wonder if Memphis just wanted to do their due diligence on RJ but yeah that is a good point you brought up. I do think they still end up taking Ja though. With Conley getting up there in terms of age, I can see them taking Ja to replace him and to form a nice duo with JJ

[Chanel Bomber]

IMO Frank has better discretion but just lacks the aggression/confidence and that holds back his decision making a lot. The few times when he did play unbridled the ball moved and got to the right places but how the hell do you tap that consistently is the question and there may not be an answer. I've rarely been more frustrated with a player. He'll move forward and then fall back three steps.

I always say that SGA is what Frank SHOULD be but given that he isn't... yes, DSJ is clearly better at this time.

This is who Frank reminds me of and can project to once he matures. Iggy.

Man people on here and in general underrate Iggy so much... Frank will never be prime Iggy... not even close truthfully

Frank doesn’t have Iggy’s athleticism, physicality, burst, vision, passing skills, driving ability, finishing ability, basketball IQ, defense, passion and intangibles... Frank could be a solid piece down the line if he puts in the work (even though I’m very skeptical) but he’s not nearly as talented as Iggy. He will never live up to that comparison, that’s setting him up to fail honestly.

[Ray Williams]

Im starting to feel that the pelz arent sold on rj barret and wants two lotter picks and that is why we hear this noise about us trading down.

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Like Tyler Herro A lot. Like his shooting if we sign KD and Kyrie.
I'd trade 3 for 8 and 10 if I could get Cam and Herro.

I'd see if we could package Dot or Frank and the Dallas picks for a role playing starter (defense a must) that would fit with Mitch and KD.

Mitch/ Robin Lopez(room MLE)
? / Knox
KD / Cam
Herro / Frank or Dot
Kyrie / DSJ